Iron Man 3 Downey's last?

[ElMariachi]

That's the problem with success. You can't pay everybody tens of millions of dollars. Marvel has a Tampa Bay Ray mindset with the NY Yankees payroll. It's baffling sometimes but I see why they do it. Gotta pay Hemsworth, Evans, and Ruffalo. I can live without SHIELD characters if it comes to that. I take these reports with a grain of salt though because Marvel almost always gets their man. How do all these big name actors even sign on to their movies? I can't imagine they are paying Zoe Saldana peanuts to wear green paint and act with a pro wrestler, a CGI racoon/tree, and an under the radar tv guy.

 

[Pickle-El]

Yes I know. What I meant with my post is that those are highly detailed contracts that, at least myself, can't even begin to understand because of the amount of numbers and whatever their specific job in a movie actually consists of.
Another question would be if an actor deserves to earn 50 million for a movie, when doctors who save real lives don't. Everything is messed up.

I know it's a business, but we don't really know the mechanics in making a movie and/if an actor really deserves that ridiculously amount of money they ask for.
But, yes, I agree that the cast should re-negociate their deals because the movie, in this case Avengers 2, will probably suffer without any of its stars. And Marvel is clever enought not to make that mistake. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

Downey didn't ask for 50 million. He took a back-end deal that paid off bigtime. 1,2,3, percent doesn't sound like much at first, does it? And now, Marvel knows that Avengers 2 will be a huge smash and will likely lowball the actors with upfront money instead of any back-end deals that could balloon their salaries. They want it both ways now.

They don't want another Downey situation when they can basically call at least 1.3-1.5 billion guaranteed for another Avengers movie. They will offer more money upfront, but the actors will still lose out long term if they don't try to negotiate back-end deals with a smaller guaranteed salary upfront.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's the problem with success. You can't pay everybody tens of millions of dollars. Marvel has a Tampa Bay Ray mindset with the NY Yankees payroll. It's baffling sometimes but I see why they do it. Gotta pay Hemsworth, Evans, and Ruffalo. I can live without SHIELD characters if it comes to that. I take these reports with a grain of salt though because Marvel almost always gets their man. How do all these big name actors even sign on to their movies? I can't imagine they are paying Zoe Saldana peanuts to wear green paint and act with a pro wrestler, a CGI racoon/tree, and an under the radar tv guy.

Because they are playing those others peanuts.

Though I doubt Saldana is expensive.

 

[nogap87]

I had a lot of doubts about Evans, but now he is Cap to me. But TFA was just awesome, made all the better by perfect casting of the leads. Hayley Atwell, I love you.

The first half of Captain America is one of the greatest moments in comic book movie history. Evans deserves more cha-ching.

 

[ElMariachi]

Because they are playing those others peanuts.

Though I doubt Saldana is expensive.

Perhaps but that special effects department won't be getting peanuts. I am curious though why she would agree to do this movie if she wasn't getting paid alot. I know Marvel Studios equates to success these days but what does she find appealing about getting painted green, talking to CGI raccoons, and being the main star in a very risky franchise. Guardians isn't a sure thing and it could very well be a John Carter situation.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Perhaps but that special effects department won't be getting peanuts. I am curious though why she would agree to do this movie if she wasn't getting paid alot. I know Marvel Studios equates to success these days but what does she find appealing about getting painted green, talking to CGI raccoons, and being the main star in a very risky franchise. Guardians isn't a sure thing and it could very well be a John Carter situation.

It is still probably a decent payday and it offers exposure. She isn't one to shy away from pretty much any role. She seems to want to get her name out there any chance she gets.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I really want to see the gang back together in The Avengers 2 including RDJ. I wouldn't mind if he retired from the role after that, but it would be a shame if we only got him in one Avengers film.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I really want to see the gang back together in The Avengers 2 including RDJ. I wouldn't mind if he retired from the role after that, but it would be a shame if we only got him in one Avengers film.

It would be near incomprehensible.

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

I am almost positive that Downey will be back for Avengers 2, even if it is his last time playing Tony Stark.

I also think people are confused about the ending of IM3. Nowhere does Tony say that he [BLACKOUT]won't suit up[/BLACKOUT] or [BLACKOUT] not continue being Iron Man [/BLACKOUT] because in fact, he says the complete opposite. He [BLACKOUT]initiates "clean slate" so that he can start fresh will all of his armors instead of having 42 of them.[/BLACKOUT] The fact that he can control the the suits remotely has nothing to do with his ability to do stunts because everything is CGI anyway.

Will there be an Iron Man 4? If Downey is up for it, than yeah, there will be. But as it is now, his appearances in the next two Avengers movies will be sufficient for the character. There's no way in hell Disney will be giving up on a character that has the second greatest opening of all time.

 

[Leenie]

I feel weird about this. On one hand, I can totally understand why Marvel has cut some corners in the past (I personally think giving Terrence Howard the boot was incredibly smart). On the other hand, I think a lot of these actors deserve more than what they're getting. They're undoubtedly a big part of the reason why Marvel has been so successful.

RDJ? Irreplaceable at this point; there's no debating that. Case closed.

Mark Ruffalo? The best Hulk we've seen on the silver screen by a mile, plus the "surprise hit" of The Avengers. The general audience loves this guy right now.

Chris Evans? A man who "gets" Captain America, and is a big reason why his solo movie worked so well. I think that for the general audience, he's replaceable. For the comic nerds, though? It'll be tough finding another guy to helm the shield as well as Evans has.

Chris Hemsworth? The dude IS Thor. Can you picture another actor pulling the role off? I sure as hell can't. Plus, Thor has been able to reach the female demographic, and I think that's mostly because of Hemsworth rather than the actual character.

Tom Hiddleston? The most memorable comic book movie villain since Heath Ledger's Joker, easily. Also he, like Hemsworth, has gotten quite a bit of attention from the female audience.

Samuel L. Jackson? Do I even need to say why he needs to come back as Fury? Really?

 

[D4rkShaDoWz]

I feel weird about this. On one hand, I can totally understand why Marvel has cut some corners in the past (I personally think giving Terrence Howard the boot was incredibly smart). On the other hand, I think a lot of these actors deserve more than what they're getting. They're undoubtedly a big part of the reason why Marvel has been so successful.

The only person this really applies to is RDJ. Chris Evans has a nine picture deal with Marvel, and he's only been in three films so far. I'm almost positive that Marvel made similar deals with Hemsworth and Ruffalo before casting them in the film.

 

[roach]

I feel weird about this. On one hand, I can totally understand why Marvel has cut some corners in the past (I personally think giving Terrence Howard the boot was incredibly smart). On the other hand, I think a lot of these actors deserve more than what they're getting. They're undoubtedly a big part of the reason why Marvel has been so successful.

RDJ? Irreplaceable at this point; there's no debating that. Case closed.

Mark Ruffalo? The best Hulk we've seen on the silver screen by a mile, plus the "surprise hit" of The Avengers. The general audience loves this guy right now.

Chris Evans? A man who "gets" Captain America, and is a big reason why his solo movie worked so well. I think that for the general audience, he's replaceable. For the comic nerds, though? It'll be tough finding another guy to helm the shield as well as Evans has.

Chris Hemsworth? The dude IS Thor. Can you picture another actor pulling the role off? I sure as hell can't. Plus, Thor has been able to reach the female demographic, and I think that's mostly because of Hemsworth rather than the actual character.

Tom Hiddleston? The most memorable comic book movie villain since Heath Ledger's Joker, easily. Also he, like Hemsworth, has gotten quite a bit of attention from the female audience.

Samuel L. Jackson? Do I even need to say why he needs to come back as Fury? Really?

Terrance Howard's situation is a little different than people believe.


On being replaced, Howard stated, "There was no explanation, apparently the contracts that we write and sign aren't worth the paper that they're printed on sometimes. Promises aren't kept, and good faith negotiations aren't always held up." Entertainment Weekly stated Favreau did not enjoy working with Howard, often re-shooting and cutting his scenes; Howard's publicist said he had a good experience playing the part, while Marvel chose not to comment. As Favreau and Theroux chose to reduce the role, Marvel came to Howard to discuss lowering his salary – Howard was the first actor hired in Iron Man and was paid the largest salary. The publication stated they were unsure whether Howard's representatives left the project first or if Marvel chose to stop negotiating

 

[DyeLorean]

Apparently Hemsworth isn't signed for Avengers 2 yet.

 

[roach]

I believe the only one signed on is Chris Evans.

"Hemsworth especially wasn’t anxious to go back into that arduous diet and training regimen and subsist primarily on egg whites for Thor: Dark World which hits theaters November 8th."

When it was pointed out to Marvel that Hemsworth already had received $5M for his starring role in Snow White And The Huntsman, the studio shot back, ”I don’t know why you’re complaining when Marvel only has hit movies.” To which the response was, “He’s happier working at a place like Universal.” After hard-fought bargaining, Chris Evans for Captain America 2 and Chris Hemsworth for Thor 2 wound up with deals still weighted on the back end but at least with attainable break-even numbers and small upfront guarantees and box office bonuses.

 

[metaphysician]

I think you guys are getting ahead of yourselves, in assuming those articles are both true and accurate. Not only is it entirely possible that this is unsourced non-sense, but its extremely likely that if there is a grain of truth to it? Its typical behind-the-scenes negotiation overblown for headline purposes.

 

[Pickle-El]

Deadline.com is the place to go to for legit industry news.

 

[roach]

I think you guys are getting ahead of yourselves, in assuming those articles are both true and accurate. Not only is it entirely possible that this is unsourced non-sense, but its extremely likely that if there is a grain of truth to it? Its typical behind-the-scenes negotiation overblown for headline purposes.

Nikki Finke is more reliable than most

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I'm all for people getting their due, especially the guys who signed low initial contracts but RDJ draws ****ing $50 million off Avengers and now he's trying to grab even more?

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Maybe his negotiations will be less about his own paycheck and more about his cast mates. Maybe. He is a hero after all...

 

[Liam_H]

There is word going around that he wants his castmates to be paid more fairly. Him being behind that is a big deal.

 

[LostSon88]

I'm all for people getting their due, especially the guys who signed low initial contracts but RDJ draws ****ing $50 million off Avengers and now he's trying to grab even more?

But as per the article, he also is trying to make sure that Marvel does his co-stars right and gives them a fair deal as well. His $50 mil wasn't an upfront deal or anything, it was based on percentages and dependent on how much TA and IM3 made. Its not his fault the total sum tallied to him making that much.

Right now RDJ has the leverage over Marvel that the other cast members don't. And if this story is to be believed, he is willing to stand by his castmates and fight for them.

Which naturally, makes him even more awesome.

 

[Donnie Darko]

While agree that the actors should be getting paid more, I think we all can agree that some are worth more than others. For example, as much as I like the guy, if Jeremy Renner doesn't get the money he wants, they could probably write him out or recast without much of a stink from most audiences. I'd actually be fine with little to no Fury in future Avengers films.

 

[Norek]

The only person this really applies to is RDJ. Chris Evans has a nine picture deal with Marvel, and he's only been in three films so far. I'm almost positive that Marvel made similar deals with Hemsworth and Ruffalo before casting them in the film.

I think it was reported Evans has a six picture deal, it was originally a nine, but they cut it back to six, so three CA movies and three TA movies. Nine was apparently a bit too much for him, and that's one of the reasons he was hesitant for a while before signing up to play Cap.

And on another note, I never understood why people disliked Howard as Rhodey in IM1. I thought he was fine. I like both him and Cheadle as actors, but I personally found Howard to be much more presentable in the role, being a military guy. Cheadle never felt like that to me, he looked and acted like a cop at best.

 

[Pickle-El]

There is word going around that he wants his castmates to be paid more fairly. Him being behind that is a big deal.

Hence the slogan going around with the other castmates about negotiations when Marvel calls...

"**** You, Call Robert!"

That's just plain awesome. It's hard to not to love the guy. I'm so glad I didn't run him over in 2001 as he crossed the street ....this guy is pretty damn cool.

 

[ctsketch]

I think it was reported Evans has a six picture deal, it was originally a nine, but they cut it back to six, so three CA movies and three TA movies. Nine was apparently a bit too much for him, and that's one of the reasons he was hesitant for a while before signing up to play Cap.

And on another note, I never understood why people disliked Howard as Rhodey in IM1. I thought he was fine. I like both him and Cheadle as actors, but I personally found Howard to be much more presentable in the role, being a military guy. Cheadle never felt like that to me, he looked and acted like a cop at best.

Howard always looks/sounds like he's about to cry...