Sci-Fi Dune

[antsman41]

No one is even close to what Greig Fraser is doing with scale, depth, framing... and lighting.

Rogue One
Dune - Part One
The Batman
Dune - Part Two

 

[antsman41]

Also, truly baffling how these two films don't have a TDK/Potter stylized WB logo intro...

...like it even has the weird blunt intro-intro and then it should easily go into a metallic/black or sandy/red/bright production/logo cards to play into Denis' beautiful DUNE title cards.

 

[Sithborg]

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The fact that Denis is 2/2 on ending his DUNE films on the face of an important woman coming to a realization about Paul is tremendous.

Part One has Jessica contemplating the path her son is about to take… and the actions she affected upon him.

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Part Two has Chani questioning the power her love has now grasped…

$100, Messiah closes on Alia’s face understanding where the future lies with Leto II and Ghanima.

I somewhat doubt that.

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Considering I am fairly certain that Alia was manipulating Jessica and Paul in order to set up him as Emperor, I suspect Alia is going to be much, much more like she was in Children in the Messiah movie. Honestly, what they've done with Alia has me far more fascinated by what he will do in Messiah than Chani

I dont disagree with that, but I look at Dune and Dune Part Two as 1 story. So collectively, I think the 2 films are a masterpiece. But if you examine Part One as a movie, then yes it doesn't conclude. It just ends

I think the final judgement on the movies will have to wait when we can watch them back to back at home. Which I really cannot wait to do.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I somewhat doubt that.

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Considering I am fairly certain that Alia was manipulating Jessica and Paul in order to set up him as Emperor, I suspect Alia is going to be much, much more like she was in Children in the Messiah movie. Honestly, what they've done with Alia has me far more fascinated by what he will do in Messiah than Chani

I think the final judgement on the movies will have to wait when we can watch them back to back at home. Which I really cannot wait to do.

I basically did that. Watched Part One right before leaving for theater to see Part Two

 

[antsman41]

Oh, I don't think Alia's face will be tragic or as emotional as these two endings... concerning Paul/Arrakis. I truly meant it will be more foreshadowing of the intentional horrors to come.

Leto II's crimes.

 

[antsman41]

Can we respect how Denis lets these actors be more real with some of the dialogue too. It's neat knowing this is a possible future and they're mostly still human.

Too much sci-fi loses that aspect. Gets too fantastical or too robotic.

 

[kguillou]

Can we respect how Denis lets these actors be more real with some of the dialogue too. It's neat knowing this is a possible future and they're mostly still human.

Too much sci-fi loses that aspect. Gets too fantastical or too robotic.

I had mentioned this in one of my prior posts. No disrespect to Dune part 1 because i love that movie too but a lot of the dialogue and exposition in that felt very stoic and regal whereas in pt 2 the dialogue felt more grounded and natural. And Denis allowed for a lot more humor this time. Javier Bardem in particular was having a lot of fun this time.

 

[Sithborg]

I had mentioned this in one of my prior posts. No disrespect to Dune part 1 because i love that movie too but a lot of the dialogue and exposition in that felt very stoic and regal whereas in pt 2 the dialogue felt more grounded and natural. And Denis allowed for a lot more humor this time. Javier Bardem in particular was having a lot of fun this time.

It works, because Part 1 was focused mostly in House Atreides, while Part 2 was mostly with the Fremen.

 

[antsman41]

It works, because Part 1 was focused mostly in House Atreides, while Part 2 was mostly with the Fremen.

And when it is less stoic within House Atreides... it makes sense // ala Duncan.

 

[TheVileOne]

Fellowship of the Ring doesn’t have an ending, but it’s a masterpiece on its own. I don’t think that makes or breaks a film if everything else is working IMO

Fellowship of the Ring has a much better, stronger ending. At the end of it, you feels like you've watched the end of something, and it's built up well. Dune: Part One didn't do that.

 

[TheVileOne]

I still think Fellowship is a far more satisfying standalone experience than Dune part 1 is though, personally.

It totally is. And Fellowship of the Ring picks a perfect stopping point much like the original book did. It feels like you watched the end of a movie. Part of the journey ends and a new one begins.

 

[Sithborg]

Looks like the final tally for Thur + fan event is going to be $12 million. Going to be a fun weekend.

 

[antsman41]

...my brain won't stop racing. Going to fit in IMAX at Lloyd Center Saturday morning.

Gosh, I truly am so much more excited for Messiah now.

And will never die satisfied if we don't get someone to extend this with careful hands into Children and God Emperor.

Literally need to witness Leto II's acceptance of a Sand Trout after seeing Denis' pull off of that capture of the Water Of Life.

 

[antsman41]

...let me follow this Sisterhood.

 

[Filmfreak]

Fellowship of the Ring has a much better, stronger ending. At the end of it, you feels like you've watched the end of something, and it's built up well. Dune: Part One didn't do that.

That's natural since Fellowship of the Ring adapted a whole book, while Dune adapted half of it. How would you have that issue fixed? I haven't read the book, so is there any other part of it near the middle that would feel more natural if they ended the movie there? Or would you prefer they only made one film for the whole book like with Lynch's version?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think Part 1 picked the most logical stopping point. Maybe it could have been executed in a way that was more of a conclusion, but I am fine with what they did. Part 1's ending only would have gone down as atrocious for me had Part Two not been made, but we got it so alls well that ends well

 

[Filmfreak]

Yeah after seeing Part Two, one of my first thoughts was "imagine if the first one hadn't done as well as it did and they ended up depriving us of this". We are really lucky.

 

[chintai80]

i read the book before i watched dune part 1, so i had no problem with how it ended abruptly.

this is basically one movie that's been split into 2 parts because it's too damn long. lol.

also, i know i like talking that sh** on this forum about david lynch's 1984 adaption, but i've been rewatching that and actually enjoying it.

it's dated now, but the production value in it was good, acting is decent.
i feel like denis's adaption captured the feel of the novel better, but lynch's was an admirable attempt. the ambition was there.

it's just for me, the character's emotional states in denis's version felt more relatable.

 

[Weather Witch]

Just left my IMAX showing. Still processing. Absolutely loved it though and will definitely be going a few more times. Really need that Part Three now!

 

[chintai80]

Armond is bringing his signature class. That blurb did make me laugh.

calling it the anti-Rebel Moon is maybe one of the best endorsements i've seen for Dune Part 2.

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

That's natural since Fellowship of the Ring adapted a whole book, while Dune adapted half of it. How would you have that issue fixed? I haven't read the book, so is there any other part of it near the middle that would feel more natural if they ended the movie there? Or would you prefer they only made one film for the whole book like with Lynch's version?

The Fellowship of the Ring is only a book because the publisher didn't want to publish The Lord of the Rings as one volume though. Tolkien wrote it as one novel.

I don't really see much difference in FotR and Dune p1 though. Both stop at the point where the protagonists make a choice to change their path forward (the Fellowship breaking up and Paul joining the Fremen), and that's pretty much all that the endings have to offer. Neither the skirmish with the Uruk-hai nor the duel with Jamis are story ending conflicts in any way.

 

[Filmfan93]

Amazon?

HMV (UK).

 

[TheVileOne]

That's natural since Fellowship of the Ring adapted a whole book, while Dune adapted half of it. How would you have that issue fixed? I haven't read the book, so is there any other part of it near the middle that would feel more natural if they ended the movie there? Or would you prefer they only made one film for the whole book like with Lynch's version?

The way to end the first movie was to see them entering the Sietch Tabr and having Jamis' funeral and Paul picking his Fremen name.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Still crazy how that Mcquarrie directing and Ferguson as lead flick never got greenlit.

 

[TheVileOne]

The Empire Strikes Back pretty much has even less of an ending than FotR and Dune part One as well, seeing how the latter two at least end with a major shift in the story (Fellowship breaks up and Paul embracing change and going with the firemen).

With ESB you have the rebels barely escaping but still just going on as before and the Empire didn't really achieve much either. The only big thing is Luke finding out about his father. Still it's the best SW film.

This isn't when I mean when I say ending. When you get to the end of Empire Strikes Back, it still feels like an ending for a good movie even if it ends on a cliffhanger. You feel like you've finished watching a movie. That's not how it felt watching Dune: Part 1 where there isn't a good epilogue or resolution type scene.