Sci-Fi Dune

I had mentioned this in one of my prior posts. No disrespect to Dune part 1 because i love that movie too but a lot of the dialogue and exposition in that felt very stoic and regal whereas in pt 2 the dialogue felt more grounded and natural. And Denis allowed for a lot more humor this time. Javier Bardem in particular was having a lot of fun this time.

That's because they made sure to cut out all the character development in part one to personalize everyone, but we had to have plenty of extra scenes with Duncan Idaho.

Also, Paul never recites the Litany of Fear Once.
 
Made the decision to go see this yesterday with a busted ear drum and middle ear infection so I was a bit concerned about the noise (yeah I know, but it worked out, just couldn't hear bass scenes in that ear well), but overall I gotta say the movie was pretty darn fantastic. Especially on a technical level, from the cinematography to the sound, the designs, etc and I thought the cast and actions scenes were excellent.

I do think I need to see it again before I properly review it simply because I think I owe it to the movie, but didn't want to wait for my ear to heal to check it out haha. One thing I will say though is I still feel a coldness to Paul and his story and I can't really put my finger on why. Everything else is magnificent, but like with Dune part 1, my investment in him is more casual than "I need to see what's next!" But maybe it's because I never read the books. I'm not ready to put these on the level of Lord of The Rings just yet, but again, rewatches, along with rewatches of part 1 and part 2 back to back could bring it there for me eventually. But as of now there's a coldness to the Dune films that kinda make me more in awe of the technical aspects and acting than the actual story itself. Overall though, if you're not even a dune fan, I still highly recommend this movie. All movies should aspire to look as good as this.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. I've been having trouble putting my tongue on any sort of review of this until I do see it a second time and I'm with you on the "coldness" part of it all. Denis is arguably my favorite director and I'm in awe of what he accomplished with these Dune films but I still think BR2049, Arrival, Prisoners are better/more enjoyable
 
This was so damn good, especially in IMAX. My biggest complaint was that I thought that the third act felt a little rushed, but like the first movie I just wanted it to be longer for my own enjoyment.

I know everyone's all about Austin Butler here (and this was the first time I've actually enjoyed him in something, to be fair), but Rebecca was easily the MVP of this for me.
Surprisingly I ended up being really drawn to Zendaya's performance in this most of all but everyone was great across the board. My only complaint from any of the cast was that
Butler's Feyd voice felt like too much of an imitation of Stellan's Baron voice but I can look past it because he gave such a chilling performance.
 
 
Yeah, if I was betting money on who that unnamed actor was! I'm going with Grant. Also, how the bloody hell could you be married to Liz Hurley at that time and still pick up who he picked up. lawd. Those who remember know what I mean.
 
Saw this yesterday. 10/10.

Stunning on every level - visuals, cinematography, score, acting. Timothée owned the latter half of the film. Chani was amazing. Austin Butler was terrifying as Feyd. The IR-shot scenes on Giedi Prime were beautiful.

As someone who loves the book, I was very happy with Denis' adaptation of the second half. Enough changes were made to make it more adaptable and general audience friendly, while still maintaining the core themes and ideas.

I might love Part Two even more than the first film, but I need couple of more watches as it's a lot to process.

Going again today, tomorrow and next Saturday, finally in IMAX.

This must make all the money in the world so we get Messiah and I will do my part.
 
This isn't when I mean when I say ending. When you get to the end of Empire Strikes Back, it still feels like an ending for a good movie even if it ends on a cliffhanger. You feel like you've finished watching a movie. That's not how it felt watching Dune: Part 1 where there isn't a good epilogue or resolution type scene.

I see it differently. I think ESB just takes the protagonists out of the immediate danger, and reset the damage to Luke, but I don't feel like much is accomplished beyond keeping the status quo. Neither the rebels nor the Empire have made any relevant gains so the struggle will just keep going as it was.

FotR and Dune part One have more clear endings thematically. A big change in the course of the story happens and the new path will be shown in the next film. ESB has nothing to compete with the thematic storytelling here, despite being the one that was actually originally written to end where it did.

None of the three have endings that would work in standalone films so none of them are great endings overall.
 
Prisoners B+ and Arrival B? It's stuff like that that make me lose faith in humanity.:argh:
I expect it to have a similar performance to Oppenheimer in terms of IMAX.:love:
 
I think you hit the nail on the head here. I've been having trouble putting my tongue on any sort of review of this until I do see it a second time and I'm with you on the "coldness" part of it all. Denis is arguably my favorite director and I'm in awe of what he accomplished with these Dune films but I still think BR2049, Arrival, Prisoners are better/more enjoyable

Eh, the coldness is kind of just how it is in the book too. Mileage may vary for some, but it's just kind of the way the source material is and how Frank wrote

This is kind of why I'm not all like "Wow, I don't understand the Dune hype" because I know for others the coldness isn't an issue. As a film fan, I was still in awe of Dennis craftsmanship on both Dune movies, but if someone was to ask me what i think is still his best movie, I'd go with Blade Runer 2049. He seems to be hard on himself about that one ironically, and I happen to think it's a masterpiece. Prisoners is a close second.

Blade Runner 2049
Prisoners
Dune Part Two
Dune
Sicario
Arrival
Enemy
 
I don't see the coldness. Dune Part Two had a lot of heart, especially in the Paul and Chani scenes. Prisoners and Arrival also had some very moving moments. It's kind of like the "Nolan's films are emotionless" complaint.
 
I don't see the coldness. Dune Part Two had a lot of heart, especially in the Paul and Chani scenes. Prisoners and Arrival also had some very moving moments. It's kind of like the "Nolan's films are emotionless" complaint.
I definitely agree about Prisoners and Arrival. I think it's just the Dune material itself that makes me feel detached a bit. I absolutely agree that Nolans films have a ton of emotion, I mean, I'm one of the most vocal people about that too.
 
I definitely agree about Prisoners and Arrival. I think it's just the Dune material itself that makes me feel detached a bit. I absolutely agree that Nolans films have a ton of emotion, I mean, I'm one of the most vocal people about that too.
Even if that's the case with the novel, which I haven't read, I personally found myself much more invested and emotionally attached to the characters and their journeys in Part Two than in most blockbuster movies.
 
I see it differently. I think ESB just takes the protagonists out of the immediate danger, and reset the damage to Luke, but I don't feel like much is accomplished beyond keeping the status quo. Neither the rebels nor the Empire have made any relevant gains so the struggle will just keep going as it was.

FotR and Dune part One have more clear endings thematically. A big change in the course of the story happens and the new path will be shown in the next film. ESB has nothing to compete with the thematic storytelling here, despite being the one that was actually originally written to end where it did.

None of the three have endings that would work in standalone films so none of them are great endings overall.

I also see it differently, *shrug*
 
I just realised that Stephen McKinley Henderson and Tim Blake Nelson never appeared in the movie after all. Apparently they were cut but got a special thanks.
 
WTF?! Arrival got a B Cinemascore?! i had no idea.

I guess maybe audiences found it boring but wow, that movie is incredible. It did well at the box office, too.

Cinemasocre often has to with audience expectations. Even a good movie might get a lower cinemascore if the trailers hinted at a different move than what the audience ended up getting.
 
It is paced quite quickly. I actually found some big moments quite rushed actually.
I thought that the first hour took its time and then everything got quicker. Personally I thought the third act unfolded a bit too rapidly.
The battle and hostile takeover by Paul and the Fremen seemed to happen just as soon as it started. One example being I feel like there has to be a lot left on the cutting room floor regarding Gurney and Rabban. That whole confrontation between them felt like it was over in 10 seconds. "RABBAN!" "Yeah?" *Knife to the throat*
 
Fellowship of the Ring has a much better, stronger ending. At the end of it, you feels like you've watched the end of something, and it's built up well. Dune: Part One didn't do that.
That just doesn't matter in the case of Dune, IMO. Part One is half of a movie. It is now a totally and utterly irrelevant issue with both parts existing.
 

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