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Batman and a reluctant Bronze Tiger fight to prevent Fox, Vulture and Shark from invading an ancient Chinese temple and stealing the sacred animal totem from within.
Cartoon Network has released 19 images and three clips from "Return of the Fearsome Fangs!," the next new episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold airing on Friday, Feb. 20.

Here's how the network describes the episode:

"Fox, Vulture and Shark join the evil Shadow Clan in an attack on the ancient Wudang Temple and kill Master Wong Fei in a battle of flying arrows and martial arts. Flying swords, ninjas and the supernatural collide when Batman and Bronze Tiger must face their former colleagues. When the Terrible Trio steals the Wudang Totem and transform into unstoppable mystical creatures, it's up to Batman and Bronze Tiger to save us all!"

Bronze Tiger is voiced by Gary Sturgis. Other voices include Paul Nakauchi as Wong Fei, Eduardo Ballerini as Jack/ Vulture and Phil Morris as Fox.

In the opening sequence, Batman teams with Jonah Hex against the Royal Flush Gang. Jonah Hex is voiced by Morris.

The episode was written by Todd Casey and directed by Brandon Vietti.
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0902/12/index.htm

Airing: February 20
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I'm not really a fan of the Terrible Trio, but the Bronze Tiger/Batman dynamic should be great.
 
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Hmmm. I'm not seeing this episode listed in my guide for tomorrow.
 
It's not popping up on my cable guide for tomorrow either. I haven't seen anything official from the usual news listings, but LocateTV has it airing on Feb. 20.

http://www.locatetv.com/tv/batman--the-brave-and-the-bold/season-1/6084284

Looks like we're in for a week's forward shift.
Damn. That's just more time until that two-parter with the CSA/Owlman.

I'll edit the airing dates when something concrete is posted.
 
I should be able to let you know in the next few hours. I've just had a email from the WB consultant for animation and should be getting official confirmation regarding episode synopsis and air date.
 
Cartoon Network is airing a new Pokemon movie along with an hour long Clone Wars episode. Regular cheduling is supposed to resume next week. Looks like everything just got pushed back a week. Did anyone catch the BATB marathon yesterday?
 
Catching the preview again this morning (with a repeat ep), it caught more of my attention than I figured a Terrible Trio ep to do.
 
whats jonah hex doing in the 21 century ? he's a 19th century bounty hunter
 
I wonder how Batman is making these time travel trips?
Since alot of silver age stuff is being used maybe Prof. Carter Nichols is using his method to send Bats into the past.

I thought this was a decent episode.
The Jonah Hex part seem shorter then usual.
I like the Bronze Tiger.
 
I saw the episode today and a nice interesting way to retell Bruce's origin. Instead of being trained by members of The League Of Assasins, he was trained by the same master as Bronze Tiger (a member of the league of shadows in the comics). Terible Trio were done quite nice. Nice touch to the Tiger from of Bronze Tiger. 8/10, great yet I wish we had more Jonah Hex and more on Bats origin.
 
I really liked this one
I had to give it a 9
some good figths, a little backstory and a little bit of funny
great episode
very enjoyable
 
In the teaser, Batman travels to the Old West and helps scarred mercenary Jonah Hex battle a gang of bandits known as the Royal Flush Gang. I have to admit that I really enjoyed the teaser a bit more than the main story. It was just so exciting, and I liked this cleverly-revamped version of the Royal Flush Gang. Hope to see Hex and the Gang again in a future episode.

Meanwhile, the Terrible Trio invade a Wudang temple and murder Wong Tei in order to find a totem that will give them animal powers, and only former students Batman and the arrogant Bronze Tiger can stop the Trio's plan. I have to say that this is probably the best version of the villains yet. B:TAS, as good as it was, also taught us than being faithful to the comics can be a bad thing, and translated the Trio's lameness to TV. Then, The Batman tried to revamp them as teenage mutants out for revenge, and while better, they were still trapped in a boring episode. Now, third time's the charm for them, and are an actual threat.

While the actual episode lacked humor, this kind of episode really did not need it. It was a tribute to martial arts movies that were popular in the 70's, and this definitely had that feeling. Bronze Tiger was OK, but kind of a bland hero. The Top cameo was good, and hopefully sign of things to come.

Overall, another solid episode.


NEXT WEEK: In the teaser, Red Hood tries to use a multidimension device to ask Batman for help, but villains Owlman and Blue Bowman take him down. Then, Batman swaps places with Owlman and works with Red Hood to stop the Crime Syndicate (Blue Bowman, Silver Cyclone, Scarlet Scarab, Blaze, Dyno-Mite, Barracuda, and Rubber Man) from taking over Earth-3.
 
I didn't like this episode at all. Bronze Tiger seemed like a whiney quitter and it was just a bunch of 'meh'. I vaguely remember my Suicide Squad comics but i thought the Tiger was cooler than this. He just taps out when Batman gets him into a arm lock?? WTF? Are they going to have Mr Miracle give up when he can't get out of some handcuffs,c'mon.
 
Just watched this one, it was a pretty solid episode. I liked the Hex intro, and I really liked the designs when everyone went all animal. I don't know why, but I didn't like Bats cheating like a little punk. :mad::oldrazz:

8/10
 
Just watched this one, it was a pretty solid episode. I liked the Hex intro, and I really liked the designs when everyone went all animal. I don't know why, but I didn't like Bats cheating like a little punk. :mad::oldrazz:

8/10

I didn't like that either. It aint the way batman does what he does
 
I actually laughed at the opener, just going, wtf? But in a good way.lol Loved seeing Jonah Hex, loved seeing the throwback version of the Royal Flush Gang, and I absolutely loved seeing Batman in a sombrero and poncho! I didnt care how Batman got in the old west, the opener was great, and it was pure Silver Age.

The main episode itself was cool. It was pretty much par for the course for the series. I liked this new version of the Terrible Trio and it was fun to see a glimpse of Batmans past training. The "bat" Batman was very Kelly Jones, I hate Kelly Jones, but its neat to see little nods to different eras in this series.
 
I didn't like that either. It aint the way batman does what he does
Actually it is, Batman cheats all the time. He uses his gadgets for an unfair upper hand, and even recognises himself that while he isn't the best martial artist on Earth, he's one of the best fighters on Earth, because he gets the upper hand through trickery. Just read Morrison's JLA run with Prometheus.

Anyway, fantastic ep. I can't believe they actually managed to make the Terrible Trio cool. I loved the flashbacks, and I thought it was also great how Batman wasn't all powerful here, he didn't teach Bronze Tiger a lesson, he learnt that himself. He also finally came up against someone who was a better fighter which was neat. I hope more eps follow this pattern, because as much as I love the Despero ep, some of the bits really elevated Bats more than he should be.
 
Actually it is, Batman cheats all the time. He uses his gadgets for an unfair upper hand, and even recognises himself that while he isn't the best martial artist on Earth, he's one of the best fighters on Earth, because he gets the upper hand through trickery. Just read Morrison's JLA run with Prometheus.

Exactly. Bruce is smart enough to know that there's no such thing as a fair fight, he "cheats" all the time to gain an advantage. Hell, his costume alone gives him an unfair advantage in most fights.
 
"Return of the Fearsome Fangs" is an appropriate title as this is the third time that we have seen the Terrible Trio animated in a Batman cartoon. They were horribly minor in the comics, and sometimes one wonders why DC's animation producers keep dredging them up. My only guess is because animal iconography is always simple and memorable, as well as usually makes a good toy (even if they never have been made into toys). The first time was in "The Terrible Trio" in BATMAN: TAS, in one of the last episodes that show had before moving from FoxKids to Kid's WB in the late 90's. That was a bit of a mundane episode, with the Trio basically being a bunch of bored rich types; a worthy premise that wasn't executed well. THE BATMAN years later also took another stab at them, again with a title of "The Terrible Trio", only that time they were more cliche "outsiders" at a college, and they actually mutated into their given animal forms to fight Batman & Batgirl, rather than just wearing masks. I felt it worked a bit better than the B:TAS attempt, and at least delivered better action (which was usually THE BATMAN's strong suit).

This time, they begin as rich guys in masks and eventually turn into animal forms. Progress!

The episode is essentially a nod to 70's style martial arts flicks and has some pretty damn good action sequences. The plot itself is generic, even if it does flesh out a little of Batman's past. Apparently he learned his martial arts from a semi mystical master named Wong Fei (Paul Nakauchi) who guards a mystical artifact. Fox, Shark, and Vulture have joined a night-empowered Shadow Clan and seek to steal it, and finally succeed in killing the old man. He reaches out to Batman for aid, and Batman responds (in the middle of a fight against The Top), but not before seeking to ally with the only student of Fei's who was the superior martial artist: Bronze Tiger (Gary Surgis).

I am hardly a DC buff, but this was the first team up hero who I really had no clue about before entering this episode, so I have no way to gauge accuracy. In the episode he was a bit stock; a typical arrogant prideful martial artist unused to losing who of course has to learn some humility and whatnot to become a better warrior. The moral of the episode, ironically, is to be willing to cheat to succeed over your enemies; least it's one a kid might realistically use in life!

The Trio steal the artifact and become monster-men, unbeatable by normal humans, but at some point Batman and Tiger gain the artifact and become animals themselves. Batman for once engages in some self depreciating humor at the end.

The teaser is with Jonah Hex, which seemed to imply Batman was time-traveling, but this bit wasn't mentioned. Aside for a "Bat-Hombre" homage, it was a bit mundane and forgettable. Jonah Hex is another figure, like the Trio, who keeps showing up in DC shows.

Basically, this was a standard fun but forgettable episode; not among the show's best, but not among the worst, either. Has some excellent action and a few clever lines, but that's it. For B:BATB, that usually is enough.
 
My problem with this episode was that it took itself so seriously. The balance of seriousness and lightheartedness that I love this series for wasn't really around. Yeah the terrible trio was better here than in other adaptations but they were still hollow and lame. I enjoy this show as much for the way it has handled the villains as much as the heroes this time we get the worse villain portrayal since the fake mojo mutant guy from the outsiders episode.

Nice to see Bats & Bronze Tiger in the episode though their dynamic made it tolerable as well as Wong Fei going all Liu Kang at one point.
 
Yeah. I think the Trio keeps getting used because they have distinctive animal themes, but they rarely work well as characters.

The episode wasn't as "comic" as some others, but I bought it as Just Another Adventure which works for the series. Not among it's best, but not among the worst (which still is the Outsiders episode for me).
 
Well, I loved it ! it is my personnal fav of the whole serie, indeed because it was a bit more serious than usual. And the idea of putting bruce, tiger and the trio was brilliant, that's all I will remember from this episode. The whole transformation thing ? not my taste at all, but using the trio as members of the monastry and linking them with Bruce ? THAT was great ! :up:
 
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