Example of a trailer with noticeable, unfinished effects?

[ohmshalone]

Hi guys, this isn't completely related to Green Lantern, but it was Green Lantern's trailer that made me wonder:

Whenever we see vfx in trailers, some people always say that the effects are not finished yet and will be better in the movie, but I don't ever remember a trailer for any movie where the vfx was noticeably different.

Just asking coz this is an argument that crops up alot, and has no doubt came up many times on this board.

 

[Weadazoid]

um... Spiderman 3 trailers showed quite litterally the evolution of Sand Man from an FX point of view

The first 'teaser' showed something that looks worse then a Mummy movie

The second trailer was a bit more fleshed out - the Sand man effects looked good

The third trailer was pretty much the final product.

 

[SuperFerret]

That's the type of thing you'll only really notice if you watch the trailers constantly, even after the movie has been released.

 

[dnno1]

I never really noticed any difference in the Spider-Man 3 trailers. I don't know what some folks are talking about.

 

[C. Lee]

In another thread people posted scenes from the IRON MAN trailer and the finished film that showed a difference. I'm sure there are many others out there...you just have to spend a lot of time watching trailers and then thier finished movies.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I remember noticing Dr. Manhattan didn't have a penis. But that was on purpose.

Anywhooser

 

[Octoberist]

X2's teaser had a bunch of unfinished effects, especially Iceman's freezing powers.

 

[KalMart]

Even if the effects will be 'changed' or tweaked by the time the film is released...what we get in the trailers is pretty much what it will look/feel like in the film...i.e.., it's generally not a night/day difference if people are looking for that. The real difference is seeing the effects shots in the context of the full film, as opposed to an abbreviated trailer.

 

[Octoberist]

I think what will change is not the designs, but the composites of the effects.

For example, Hal showing off his costume in his apartment: What they'll probably do is just fix the lighting/texture/whatever so it'll blend in better.

 

[Weadazoid]

That's the type of thing you'll only really notice if you watch the trailers constantly, even after the movie has been released.

Well it wasn't me before Spiderman 3 was release someone actually edited video from all 3 trailers to show the difference.

I can't do that but

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz0Pwm7RcIg&feature=fvsr


at about 1:04 you see Sandman fairly primative CGI

and here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz0Pwm7RcIg&feature=fvsr


at like 210 you can see alot more 'sand' has been added to the Sandman. WHne you see them side by side, you can see the difference. View one and then view the other 15 minutes later and you probably won't knotice a difference.


It isn't as though the GL effects are going to DRASTICLY change, but the have time to flesh things out a bit.


Also from the teaser to the final the venom effects are... gooier.

 

[EternalMaster]

The Spider-Man 2 teaser trailer had some fairly poor CGI at times. A big one was when Spidey leaps into a window frame. Looked like a video game scene. By the final trailer, it looked like a guy in a suit. And in the movie, it looked just as good as the final trailer.

Iron Man 2 tank scene in the Super Bowl trailer looked like heavy CGI. In the movie, the difference is huge.

The early X2 trailer had unfinished effects for Ice Man, and it had scenes where Pyro was blowing up cars just by pointing at them. In the movie, Pyro shoots the cop cars with fire to cause the explosions.

That's just a few movies off the top of my head. This is a fairly consistent thing with movies nowadays. If you want more examples, just browse the teaser/1st trailers for every major CGI-fest made in the last 10 years. Only a few will have consistently great CGI throughout.

 

[wobbly]

Another Super Bowl example, Hulk 03.

The snips from desert tank fight CGI in that trailer did not impress at all (when he barges into one tank and throws the other), but for the finished film those same sequences were a lot better.

 

[dnno1]

I didn't notice any difference at all. You should have see the test footage from the studio copy of that film. The Hulk had no pants on.

 

[C. Lee]

Here's an example of the exact opposite....in the upcoming Natalie Portman movie YOUR HIGHNESS.....in the movie in one scene she wears a thong...in the trailer they have digitally put bikini bottoms on her because they don't want people complaining about the trailer being shown at PG movies.

 

[gkokujin]

Hi guys, this isn't completely related to Green Lantern, but it was Green Lantern's trailer that made me wonder:

Whenever we see vfx in trailers, some people always say that the effects are not finished yet and will be better in the movie, but I don't ever remember a trailer for any movie where the vfx was noticeably different.

Just asking coz this is an argument that crops up alot, and has no doubt came up many times on this board.

Iron Man trailer.

the tank scene.

 

[dnno1]

This one:

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/spider-man-3-unfinished-trailer/21455

 

[Robin91939]

The Spider-man 3 church scene with Peter getting rid of the black suit and the birth of Venom was changing at all times...

-R

 

[Majmun]

....in the upcoming Natalie Portman movie YOUR HIGHNESS.....in the movie in one scene she wears a thong...

WTF? There is a god?

 

[JAK®]

I didn't notice any difference at all.

Yeah, well, we all know what you do or don't notice.

 

[Marvel Spider]

This one:

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/spider-man-3-unfinished-trailer/21455

Yeah, but this wasn't meant to be released officially yet. So it doesn't really count.

 

[ohmshalone]

Now that I think about it, a scene in the trailer that I thought was poor CGI for an A-movie was the look of Kilowog.

 

[Octoberist]

To be honest, the only CGI that bothered most people was Hal's costume. Everything else looked fine but people kept on focusing on that, making it almost..symbolic. Of what? I don't know.

With Kilowog, I can forgive it because you can tell it's a work in progress. But hey, Tomar Re looks good, especially for SONY IMAGEWORKS, a company I'm eh on.

 

[dnno1]

Yeah, but this wasn't meant to be released officially yet. So it doesn't really count.

From what I understand, that was shown to fans at ComicCon - a public event -- It also appears on GameTrailers.com (not as leaked footage). As far as I am concerned, it was official. Not only that, but it indicates to me the amount of tolerance that Marvel has for perfection vs the WB (who actually waited until they had better quality effects before showing the goods to the public.

BTW, the title of and the OP aske for an example of a trailer with unfinshed effects. If there ever was one, that would definitely be it.

 

[rashad]

From SM3 Teaser. This scene would eventually become the crane scene.

Finalized shot

Another shot from SM3 Teaser

Finalized shot

 

[moviedoors]

The most obvious example I can think of is Peter Jackson's remake of King Kong. There was a world of difference between the Kong of the first trailer and the Kong of the finished movie. Compare the roar at the T-Rex from the end of trailer 1 to the one in the movie. It's night and day. The scars, the pronounced snaggle tooth, the dirty hair. It's an almost completely revamped design.

There were huge differences in color timing, atmospherics, and even the look of CG people in the first Avatar trailer as compared to the final product. Not as drastic as the Kong differences, but they were there.

Seeing as there's a 7 month window from the release of the trailer to delivered film (minus maybe two weeks to actually lock the picture and strike and ship the physical prints), I have no doubts that we're going to see an up in VFX quality when Green Lantern finally hits the screen. I don't think they're even that bad so far. It's no Avatar(especially in regards to those CG characters), but not every movie can be the new envelope. I'm happy just seeing bright, colorful, fantastic alien vistas.