Example of a trailer with noticeable, unfinished effects?

[BMM]

Cool, now what about the differences in the scene with the Owlship coming out of the water?

The water in noticeably different, upon the ship's emergence. Not only is there more of it, but the color and fluid dynamics have completely changed.

 

[KalMart]

Cool, now what about the differences in the scene with the Owlship coming out of the water?

Looks less drastic an overall difference than the IM ones. More detailed/realistic/misty water, a bit more atmosphere and fine-tuning in the background. A little harder to see what more work in texture/reflection et al there was done because it's so dark. There's no hard/fast rule as to what stage each production's FX work is in by the time they put out trailers. Logic and a little knowledge of post-scheduling presents the plausibility of temp/early versions of FX shots in trailers that start many months before theatrical release. But with both those examples...again....the differences in effects work weren't so night and day that it changes your impression of the movie from the time you see the trailer to the time you watch the movie. It's not like a lot of people said 'god, the water around that owl ship looks horrible..this movie's going to suck'.

Again, with the GL trailer, it wasn't really just the effects themselves that made it feel like 'just another superhero movie'. Maybe the composition of the shots looked a bit rudimentary, or maybe the really complex and epic sequences weren't ready...in any presentable stage...by the time they put out that first trailer. So...how different will they look in the final movie? Well, if we're using these examples as a measuring stick...different, but probably not drastically as to be unrecognizable. So if that's where some folks are looking to gain some confidence after the first trailer, ultimately, it's probably better to look elsewhere as well as more trailers come out.

The water in noticeably different, upon the ship's emergence. Not only is there more of it, but the color and fluid dynamics have completely changed.

Yeah...to get kinda' technical, they upped the level of 'particle' complexity/physics or what have you to make it act more like real water at that scale, whereas earlier (by comparison), it's perhaps a bit more 'gel-like'. Those are the kinds of layers that are continuously tweaked as you reach final, even though to most eyes, the earlier version of the 'water' is pretty real-looking to begin with.

Also, the lit windows on the buildings look more realistic and varied, whereas in comparison, the earlier windows just look like more uniform semi-opaque layers and such.

 

[RoughNTumble]

I remember the thinking the effects in the iron man trailer were awful, but when I saw it in theaters, I was impressed by how much better it looked.

 

[BigThor]

Looks less drastic an overall difference than the IM ones. More detailed/realistic/misty water, a bit more atmosphere and fine-tuning in the background. A little harder to see what more work in texture/reflection et al there was done because it's so dark. There's no hard/fast rule as to what stage each production's FX work is in by the time they put out trailers. Logic and a little knowledge of post-scheduling presents the plausibility of temp/early versions of FX shots in trailers that start many months before theatrical release. But with both those examples...again....the differences in effects work weren't so night and day that it changes your impression of the movie from the time you see the trailer to the time you watch the movie. It's not like a lot of people said 'god, the water around that owl ship looks horrible..this movie's going to suck'.

Again, with the GL trailer, it wasn't really just the effects themselves that made it feel like 'just another superhero movie'. Maybe the composition of the shots looked a bit rudimentary, or maybe the really complex and epic sequences weren't ready...in any presentable stage...by the time they put out that first trailer. So...how different will they look in the final movie? Well, if we're using these examples as a measuring stuck...different, but probably not drastically as to be unrecognizable. So if that's where some folks are looking to gain some confidence after the first trailer, ultimately, it's probably better to look elsewhere as well as more trailers come out.

Thanks man, I truely appreciate it

 

[KalMart]

No prob.

 

[JDym]

I wonder if they're going to be able to fix that stiff Blake Lively effect? t:

 

[KalMart]

I wonder if they're going to be able to fix that stiff Blake Lively effect? t:

Or the wise-cracking Ryan Reynolds effect...?

 

[BigThor]

I'm actually fine with both of those "effects" so far.

 

[KalMart]

I wonder if they're going to be able to fix that stiff Blake Lively effect? t:

I just google-image searched Blake Lively...and I got that same 'effect'.

 

[BigThor]

I just google-image searched Blake Lively...and I got that same 'effect'.

LMAO

 

[dnno1]

I'm sorry guys, I keep Googling Blake Lively and keep getting something like this:

 

[Sam Fisher]

These were posted in the Pirates 4 thread.

 

[RoughNTumble]

I'm sorry guys, I keep Googling Blake Lively and keep getting something like this:

I find blake lively to be very likable. I'm a little nervous about how she'll do in green lantern based on the trailer, but she does good in gossip girl, and she did good in the town.

But we'll hopefully see more of her in the trailer coming any hour now

 

[DarKJediKnight]

So a new GL trailer's coming any hour from now?

 

[RoughNTumble]

yep, anywhere from 1-48 hours from now

 

[BigThor]

These were posted in the Pirates 4 thread.

Nice find

The differences between these shots are VERY noticeable and they show a marked improvement upon the first ones.

 

[DarKJediKnight]

yep, anywhere from 1-48 hours from now

Oh. I thought that I'm gonna see it just a few hours from now.

 

[KalMart]

Nice find

The differences between these shots are VERY noticeable and they show a marked improvement upon the first ones.

On the other hand, I highly doubt there were many people saying "Oh God, look at the landscape through the mouth of that cave...this movie is gonna suck...!" when looking at the first trailer.

 

[JAK®]

Still, it proves that special effects are a constant process, amd they don't just stop at making things look real, they constantly make alterations to ensure the best composition and aesthetic effect.

I'd say that dnno1's "they never change special effects shots seen in trailers" argument has been completely destroyed. The thread can be closed now.

 

[KalMart]

Still, it proves that special effects are a constant process, amd they don't just stop at making things look real, they constantly make alterations to ensure the best composition and aesthetic effect.

Ah, but it doesn't automatically mean the difference of a movie being good or bad...especially if the earlier effects shots are seen out of context from the whole film. They were probably still working on some effects for The Mummy and The Scorpion King when their trailers came out...but ultimately...did it really help?

 

[JAK®]

Ah, but it doesn't automatically mean the difference of a movie being good or bad...especially if the earlier effects shots are seen out of context from the whole film. They were probably still working on some effects for The Mummy and The Scorpion King when their trailers came out...but ultimately...did it really help?

I never said that it meant the movie will be good. What you're talking about is a completely different thing. In fact, your post is completely baffling.

 

[KalMart]

I never said that it meant the movie will be good. What you're talking about is a completely different thing. In fact, your post is completely baffling.

This goes back to the initial reactions to the first GL trailer, and how 'effects not being finished' offered, for some, a ray of hope, so to speak.

 

[JAK®]

This goes back to the initial reactions to the first GL trailer, and how 'effects not being finished' offered, for some, a ray of hope, so to speak.

Yeah, we said that the effects probably aren't finished, based on our experiences with trailers in the past.

Trust me, there will be effects seen in the trailer that will differ in the final movie, and possibly even in the next trailer if they reuse some scenes.

 

[KalMart]

Yeah, we said that the effects probably aren't finished, based on our experiences with trailers in the past.

Trust me, there will be effects seen in the trailer that will differ in the final movie, and possibly even in the next trailer if they reuse some scenes.

Oh, I never questioned whether the possibility of effects not being done existed. In fact, I offered very specific reasons as to why....based on personal and professional experience. But again...I don't think there was as much wondering about the completion of effects when, say, the new Star Trek trailer came out...probably because the reaction to it was better overall.

I think that if people are looking to feel better about the upcoming GL movie with the next trailer, it'll probably have to do more with overall feel and energy than the effects. Finished or not, even the ones in the first one looked on par with most heavy-VFX movies these days, oncoming tweaks notwithstanding. I think it was the bog-standard comic-movie/effects-fest feel of the trailer that ultimately reflected badly, for some, on the effects. Then again, the movie could end up having some of the best effects work in film to date, but still just be...well...like that first trailer made it out to be.

 

[redhawk23]

Cool, now what about the differences in the scene with the Owlship coming out of the water?

look at the water splash and drip, its completly different, far larger wave on the second one, better compositing, the water dripping doesn't look like a .gif that was pasted over the video.