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Expanding the CW universe discussion

Choose who should be the next DC superhero tv show on CW

  • Green Lantern

  • Atom

  • Blue beetle

  • Martian Manhunter

  • Firestorm


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No to a Zatanna series, it'll be completely repetitive after Constantine (where Zatanna will likely even make an appearance)

Green Lantern all the way. In the same style as Farscape or Star Trek TNG
 
Looking at objectively now I can see Dr Cosmic as a piont.Hawkman/girl series would be a perfect fit for CW as the next superhero series.GL would be best off in a premium cable network
 
A Hawkman/Hawkgirl series could be amazing.

Both Hawkman and Hawkgirl are somewhat lacking in villains though, they would end up borrowing a bunch of villains for a show to work. That would be okay though, Arrow does that too.

Hawkman/Hawkgirl makes sense as a cheaper alternative to a Green Lantern tv series. Both Hawkman/Hawkgirl and Green Lantern would likely open up the cosmic side of the CW universe. But I'd just much rather see a Green Lantern tv series. Barry, Ollie and Hal have always been associated with each other. I would love to see a Hawkman/Hawkgirl series, but I can't help but feel that they might work better as recurring characters on GL or The Flash. A 2 part episode featuring Hawkman, Hawkgirl and The Flash against the Shadow Thief would be amazing. And they could reappear anytime the CW JLA shows up.

I think the next CW show should definitely be cosmic. Hawkman/Hawkgirl, Martian Manhunter and especially Green Lantern would be the best options for a space related CW show.
 
I think the next CW show should definitely be cosmic. Hawkman/Hawkgirl, Martian Manhunter and especially Green Lantern would be the best options for a space related CW show.

MMH doesnt real fit with CW.Same with Lobo. Maybe another network.Gl would have to be another network becuse of Budget
If we are talking about CW cosmic heros Id say Hawkman/Hawkgirl and Adam Strange are the options for CW.
And Hawkman/girl has the most potential
 
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As much as Id want Hal Jordan to be the 3rd member of CW DC universe's Trinity along with Arrow and Flash, I dont know if it's possible with the budget. If it's possible they could do the comics justice, and I trust the studio and the showrunners because I like Arrow and Flash, then I say go for it.

If not, Martian Manhunter, or Hawkman and Hawkwoman are my top picks for the 3rd CW show.
 
You just know that Berlanti, Johns and Guggenheim want the next project to be Green Lantern. Those guys can be the perfect team. I loved the early GL movie script. Berlanti and Guggenheim can do a good Green Lantern series. If Geoff Johns is heavily involved as well, they would have a hard time messing it up
 
In a dream world, Batman. But with Gotham and Dawn of Justice that's incredibly unlikely.

Supergirl and Titans being in-universe would be amazing, and they should really do all they can to make it happen. Nightwing is a great character in my opinion.

I would dig Hawkgirl, Blue Beetle (Jaime or Ted), Martian Manhunter, Atom, Wildcat, Booster Gold, or even Steel (there was an Amertek building in one of the Flash posters).

I've never been a Green Lantern fan but with Ferris Air showing up, the links that the CWverse higher ups have to the character, and the natural stories you could do with Ollie and Barry make it a pretty strong choice.
 
A Hawkman/Hawkgirl series could be amazing.

Both Hawkman and Hawkgirl are somewhat lacking in villains though, they would end up borrowing a bunch of villains for a show to work. That would be okay though, Arrow does that too.

Hawkman/Hawkgirl makes sense as a cheaper alternative to a Green Lantern tv series. Both Hawkman/Hawkgirl and Green Lantern would likely open up the cosmic side of the CW universe. But I'd just much rather see a Green Lantern tv series. Barry, Ollie and Hal have always been associated with each other. I would love to see a Hawkman/Hawkgirl series, but I can't help but feel that they might work better as recurring characters on GL or The Flash. A 2 part episode featuring Hawkman, Hawkgirl and The Flash against the Shadow Thief would be amazing. And they could reappear anytime the CW JLA shows up.

I think the next CW show should definitely be cosmic. Hawkman/Hawkgirl, Martian Manhunter and especially Green Lantern would be the best options for a space related CW show.

The Hawks would definitely work as recurring on a GL show. They could easily be the "Firestorm" of such a show.

I go back and forth sometimes about the possibility of a GL show. If it could be done awesomely, it's a first pick. There's two major restrictions and it's impossible, perhaps for anyone, to know for sure if it could work without trying it.

The first, is flight. You basically have to string an actor up on a harness and make it look like they're not harnessed, and getting all that stuff right takes a long time to get a little footage. They'd have to find someway to streamline that immensely if GL is to do any significant flying. The post production could be easier if he's always flying in space, that's much easier to green screen, and you kinda do the in-atmo flight like Lois and Clark: New Adventures of Superman, or Smallville did super speed. Basically the hero zooms off screen, or we get a close up of them and a fast moving indiscenible background.

Still, you then further complicated when you have these space battles, whether against ships or other colored lanterns, or whatever. That's what separates a GL show from Farscape or TNG. Space battles were incredibly easy to create with a big non-moving model, some lasers and some explosion effects. Very simple CGI stuff. That process gets immensely complicated when instead of a static ship you have a moving person, who's supposed to look like they're flying and not harnessed... now their actions have to line up with the effects perfectly each time, on top of all the shot setting up talked about earlier. Unless they can find some ingenious way to streamline this process, it will make space battles a very time-expensive, and thus very limited aspect of the show, and that's a pretty heavy thing in the GL world of space travel.

The second is constructs. Having a constant barrage of floating CGI objects that don't look like cartoons (see Who Framed Roger Rabbit) is simply beyond the CGI budget for a TV show, even on a big channel like HBO or whatever. There is a potential solution, to do all the constructs practical, which could make for a very interesting show, as constructs would work differently than in the comics, they'd be solid, perhaps still glowing, but solid instead of translucent. They'd still be limited, the prop people can't just pull stuff out of their butts all day, but then again they'd also be cheaper to re-use.

The third is kinda with those two but separate, and that is the cheesiness. To a degree, TNG, Farscape, Dr. Who, they're all cheesy and they do a lot of handwaving because the concepts are often too big for television. This is on top of the fact that what a lot of people expect from GL: a constant barrage of constructs, they simply aren't getting. Kilowog is just a big guy in a rubber mask, perhaps a very ambitious one, but still.

At the same time, that kind of intensely practical Sci Fi can harken back to Star Wars and Hensons monster shops which could be absolutely incredible.
 
Yeah i agree with you Cosmic.

Get the Henson company on GL and i think it could really work
 
Hey DrCosmic
As usual you raise good pionts about GL. So do you think theres any possibility that CW might be willing to increase their standard budget to make a GL show?
 
I don't think they'd be willing to increase their budget, not with two more successful superhero TV shows and a nice smattering of other genre television. Because GL isn't going to be twice as successful as those things, it's not going to get twice the budget. I don't see a way around it other than someone coming up with a boss way to do flight well and efficiently.

Sometimes people feel like because CGI gets cheaper every year, the show will be more affordable, but at the same time CGI gets cheaper, the standard for CGI goes up. So while it's insanely cheap to produce TNG-level CGI today, it'll look like a show from the early 90s, which just plain old isn't good enough, even for the CW.
 
I don't think they'd be willing to increase their budget, not with two more successful superhero TV shows and a nice smattering of other genre television. Because GL isn't going to be twice as successful as those things, it's not going to get twice the budget. I don't see a way around it other than someone coming up with a boss way to do flight well and efficiently.

Sometimes people feel like because CGI gets cheaper every year, the show will be more affordable, but at the same time CGI gets cheaper, the standard for CGI goes up. So while it's insanely cheap to produce TNG-level CGI today, it'll look like a show from the early 90s, which just plain old isn't good enough, even for the CW.

Good Piont about the budget.
Looks like Hawkman/Girl are pretty much the choices for a CW Cosmic hero.

Anyways Ill see how they depict Firestorms powers to make my final decisons
 
And another hint of the JL lineup? ...
7 gods!
+ Truth-Liberty-Justice
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Who do you see?
Firestorm?
Vibe?

Edit: looking at again, between Zeus-Superman and Eros-Green Arrow, is probably more a Hades-Batman analog, going by the dual pronged scepter.
 
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Perhaps a GL show could work if they somehow kept Hal Jordan on Earth and had him fighting a different alien monster each week? I'm not familiar with GL's canon, so I don't know if that's, like sacrilege or something.

Another idea I had is that, after Gotham is done (or even before), we could have a sort-of sequel show where we follow an older Bruce Wayne (late 20s or so) in his first few months as Batman, and each week he meets one of his familiar villains for the first time. Sort of like a more gothic version of Arrow. It's low-budget, it fits with the established demographic appeal, and there's the added satisfaction of finally seeing all those drawn-out teases finally pay off.
 
Just pretty much create the line up that's currently in the Justice League United comic.

Also, I feel that the moderators should create a sub-forum for threads talking about comic book TV shows in general. This thread really shouldn't be in the DC comics FILMS section.
 
Green Lantern. Because that series didn't get its full hit on big screen.So, the chances that they will try for a TV series.
 
Farscape, BSG, Star Trek, Star Trek TNG were all done years ago , technology has come a long way since then, they can do GL justice on the cw.

Hal Jordan should definitely be the next big character introduced into the CWverse. He may or may not get his own spinoff series, but he should at least guest star on Arrow or Flash

Sorry man but it will never happen. Much of the Green Lantern story lines don't even take place on earth. So to do a Green Lantern and do it real justice you would need a crap load of special effects. That would not only be expensive but take time to do.
 
Anyone else amused that the CW failed as the teenage girl station and is now becoming the SciFi channel that never was?
 
Anyone else amused that the CW failed as the teenage girl station and is now becoming the SciFi channel that never was?

I think the transition is amusing, however, I'm also really intrigued by the blend. All these genre shows are still very much teenage girl dramas. I think that's kinda cool, and beautiful in its own way, even though it adds a certain amount of tension to fulfill both audiences which value things very differently.
 
Anyone else amused that the CW failed as the teenage girl station and is now becoming the SciFi channel that never was?

The niche nerd genres have been in demand ever since ScyFy or whatever it's called now started focusing on those terrible ghost hunting reality shows.

If CW steps up to the plate more power to them. And I can't fault them for trying to keep their female demographic. The unnecessary 'woe is me' melodrama gets grating, but if it converts the ladies into nerds then so be it. Just keep it balanced.
 
It's fascinating that the stigma the CW used to have is now completely gone. I mean, sure Arrow and Flash do have soap opera, melodramatic elements to theme but those are also staples of the comic genre so it fits in well. I think CW has found a way to balance them out nicely to attract both male and female audiences. Ironically, the one time the CW did try to go full on genre (Nikita) it didn't work out so well for them ratings-wise. Nikita probably would have lasted longer if it catered to that female audience more rather than the male (btw, anyone who hasn't seen Nikita, PLEASE go do so, it's an amazing, action-packed show start-to finish).
 
Really, anything that WB won't explore in film is pretty much fair game, and I think The CW should continue taking advantage of that. Particularly Booster Gold, Metamorpho, Red Tornado, Hawkman, or Plastic Man.

The Flash is really proving to me that you can do anything with a TV budget. The effects on that show are extremely impressive for the little money they're working with. And with an increased budget for future seasons, something on the level of what 24 was doing on Fox would be even more ideal. People seem to forget that 24 was crashing helicopters and blowing up jets with rocket launchers, and it was pretty much unprecedented.

My ultimate dream is that The CW is slowly building their way to a Justice Society, where the B-level and C-level heroes all come together for an epic television event.

Green Arrow
The Flash
Arsenal
Vibe
Huntress
Black Canary
Firestorm
The Atom
Wildcat
 
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