Feige: "more than half of [heroes] will be women."

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  1. MasterCat

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    What is the essence of Nebula or Mantis that James Gunn captured and tremendously loves? Those seem like two examples of huge failures as adaptations, whether or not the new characters in the MCU are good ones.
     
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    I will admit that we haven't quite received "The Most Dangerous Woman in the Unvierse" vibe from Gamora. But Gunn did a wonderful job capturing their complex relationship to each other and to Thanos. Gillan has been great, and appears as though she were ripped right from the comics. Saldana was absolutely wonderful in Infinity War. I doubt many hardcore fans of both characters are complaining about their big screen portrayals.
     
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    Well personally I've never hade the hate for the X-films that some other fans seem to. And honestly the problem with that was, yet again, context. All of the other Horsemen got outfits that looked both battle-ready and had a similar theme that tied them to Apocalypse. Whereas Psylocke, who had a less revealing outfit when she was working in Caliban's club, just has her comic one.

    It made Apocalypse look like kind of a perv actually. :cwink:
     
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    yeah, no you got the whole thing in your head.

    Captain Marvel looks like the comics.
    Scarlet Witch looks like the comics. Have you seen her Uncanny Avengers outfit?
    Maria Hill looks like the comics.
    Black Widow looks like the comics.
    Okoye the same.
    Nebula as well (she is more of her hero than villain).
    Wasp looks just like the comics+ a helmet.

    I count way more than just 2.
     
  5. MasterCat

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    ... he says while quoting 4 images of heroines who were completely changed by MCU directors.

    Captain Marvel I'll grant. I didn't know if the images online of Larson in the blue and red were official or shopped.
    Yes, I've seen Wanda's Uncanny Avengers outfit:

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    If they changed it to look like the non-scarlet Hot Topic outfit since Summer 2015, that doesn't count.

    Right, that's three. Five counting Pepper and Captain Marvel.

    Nebula:

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    Hope Pym:

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    Of course Hope is a special case because she was an obscuro "MC2" character. I'd have counted any of her mom's many costumes as "comics accurate".
     
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    You should really read the Annihilation comic series. In it Nebula looks pretty damn close to her big screen counterpart.

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    Also MCU Scarlet Witch's costumes is closer to her Uncanny Avengers one (although not exact).
     
  8. Abudefduf

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    Added two more characters, White Tiger and Thundra. See? It simply isn't true that Marvel doesn't have access to good superheroines. "But but but the X-Women!!!" is just an excuse.

    Lol. I actually like some of these costumes, but it's so true.
     
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    Oh, huh. So she's been a cyborg since 2006? Fair enough.
     
  10. Dasher10

    Dasher10 I'm like Deadpool IRL

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    Let's look at what Marvel have to work with in terms of new female heroes.

    Avengers: Tigra, She-Hulk, Spider-Woman, Echo, Silverclaw, White Tiger, Pod, Diamondback (Rachel), Arachne, Sersi, Kate Bishop, Cybermancer, Synapse, America Chavez, Finesse, Hazmat, Monica Chang, Veil (and bring Mockingbird, Jessica Jones, Hellcat, Squirrel Girl and Crystal into the films since they ARE Avengers and turn Pepper into Rescue and Cassie into Stature)
    Guardians of the Galaxy: Martyr, Moondragon, Nikki Gold
    Thunderbolts: Songbird, Moonstone, Joystick, Jolt, Amazon, Skein, Troll, Satana

    And if the Fox deal clears
    Fantastic Four: Invisible Woman, Thundra
    X-Men: Storm, Rogue, Domino, Emma Frost, Jean Grey, Psylocke, Polaris, Shadowcat, Jubilee, Surge, Mercury, Magik, Pixie, Tempus, M, Wolfsbane, Marrow, Dust, Husk, Layla Miller, Gaia, Wind Dancer, Penance/Hollow, X-23, U-Go Girl, Wallflower, Loa, Rachel Summers, Cipher, Siryn, Mirage, Meltdown, Feral, Negasonic Teenage Warhead, Mystique, Magma, Blindfold, Danger, Dead Girl, Stacy X, Trinary, Blink, Frenzy, Skids, Venus Dee Milo, Bling
    Alpha Flight: Aurora, Vindicator, Marina, Snowbird

    That's a whole lot of characters we haven't seen yet.
     
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    Don't forget Monica Rambeau.
     
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    X-Men: Sabra. Cecilia Reyes. Daytripper. Nocturne. Moira MacTaggert. Sage. Boom Boom. Danielle Moonstar. Stepford Cuckoos (The good ones). Meggan Braddock/Pucceanu
     
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    I didn't, she's there. Spectrum.

    Eh... the only other Spider-lady that I want to see in the MCU besides Jessica Drew is Anya Corazon, and that's only if they let her keep her exoskeleton, because without it she's just another Rule 63ed Spider-Man.
     
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    Women:
    Black Widow
    Yelena Belova
    Thena
    Makkari
    Ajak
    Sprite
    Sersi
    Awkwafina's character in Shang-Chi
    Scarlet Witch
    Valkyrie
    Jane Foster
    Sharon Carter
    Monica Rambeau
    Kate Bishop
    Ms. Marvel
    She-Hulk
    Captain Marvel
    Shuri
    Okoye

    Men:
    Ikaris
    Kingo
    Phastos
    Gilgamesh
    Black Knight
    Shang-Chi
    Doctor Strange
    Wong
    Thor
    Falcon
    Winter Soldier
    Vision
    Korg
    Loki
    Hawkeye
    Moon Knight
    Black Panther

    He wasn't lying. Well done, Feige.
     
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    There's also Wasp and Nakia. Does Janet count too? I want to see her in action. Also Peper Potts? Oh, the 3 girls from Guardians.

    Edit: Oh, nevermind. You're counting only characters from future movies already announced, right?

    Anyway, there's still Nakia.
     
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    Well we know GOTG 3 will be happening so that'd be 3 female characters (Nebula, Mantis, and Gamora) and 4 male/masculine characters (Quill, Drax, Rocket, and Groot) to add to the list.
     
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    Yeah I was trying to stick to movies/shows that have been confirmed. GotG3 has only technically been confirmed.

    I also forgot Blade... another male character but his movie is likely going to introduce at least one female hero.
     
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    I feel like including Sharon Carter is really scraping. Unless F&WS is going to make her a lot more substantial.

    But then I also wouldn't count Korg and Loki, seeing as how neither are really heroes by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    how would u guys feel if X-Men 1 had 4 females and just 2 males?

    something like:

    Cyclops
    Jean Grey
    Storm
    Rogue
    Jubilee
    and Beast?
     
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    I think they will, otherwise why are they bringing her back.

    I get what you're saying about Loki but technically he's still the "hero" of his own show and I doubt Marvel will make him too villainous. Korg is definitely a hero though, and Taika said that he will have a larger role in Love and Thunder.
     
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    I'd prefer a larger team in general. At least 7, preferably 8 not counting Xavier. Everything depends on story, though.

    I'd also prefer Rogue get a proper villain backstory - which, if you can make it happen in the first film, great, but otherwise save her for the sequel.
     
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    That looks wrong for a core team. That’s exactly why X-men red feels wrong from the moment you look at the covers. It’s okay for an issue or two though, definitely not okay for x1

    for X-men no gender should be outnumbered except by one person maximum

    It’s the avengers where the majority is male, but I wouldn’t mind one film for female avengers to assemble, and I can definitely see it being captain marvel 2
     
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    I approve of this line-up!!
     
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    If the Eternals is any indication, the X-Men team will probably have more than 6 heroes.

    And yeah, I think the X-Men movies might be investing a little more in female protagonism.
     
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