The Dark Knight Fight! Fight! Fight! (The "Batman kicks some more ass" thread)

[블라스]

I checked the 5 pages and there were no threads talking about the action and the fights.

What do you all want to see?

- Now that we know how Batman fights and surprises people, I'd like the editing to be a little smoother so I can see Batman doing his work more clearly.

- Besides his badass 'Keysi' method, I'd like to see him take out some thugs with a very effortless, yet hard aikido-like throws like these.

- Since I'm assuming the suit will be lighter now, how about some little acrobatics (not flips or stuff like that, I'm not talking about turning him into Jackie Chan or Neo, just a little ground rolling) to show how aware he is of his enviroment and how he could use it to his advantage.

- I know the Joker's not a very skilled fighter, but hopefully he'll fight someone who'll give him SOME kind of a fight

Anyone else?

Thoughts about styles, choreography and/or editing are more than welcome

Anyone else?

 

[Boom]

Either in this film or the next, I want The Joker to push Batman so far that Batman beats the living **** out of him. So bad, in fact, that Gordon has to intervene.

 

[Dr. Fate]

As with the first poster, I want better editing on the fight sequences so that I can actually see who's getting hit where, when and by whom.

 

[Darkred]

Either in this film or the next, I want The Joker to push Batman so far that Batman beats the living **** out of him. So bad, in fact, that Gordon has to intervene.

Agreed. Definetley like in Hush.

 

[superkong 500]

Well first I don't care if some people say joker won't have henchmen maybe he won't but this is a batman film and there has to be fights in it and I'am sure that the joker will probably have some of the arkham psychos working for him, plus there will be mafia henchmen to take down.


iN terms of the fights I want the editing to be smoother, I want the camera not to be so close to the people(specially batman) I want to see the camera pulled back and give the viewers some space to breathe within the frame and to let us see batman do his cool moves. Ex. if he kicks someone in the face i want to see a full body sot of him and I want to see the hit i nthe guys face and not the camera shaking and a big blur.
As simple as that.

 

[Robin91939]

I have a good feeling that there will be a few good fight sequences and a lot of action in this movie. Not the same kind of action as in BATMAN BEGINS, with a "run-away train" scenario and huge explosions but action.

I'm almost positive that we'll see Roman Sionis, "The Black Mask" in this installment as the villain to pack a punch. Plus, if they are drawing heavily on the earliest incarnation of the Joker, from Batman #1, then he is a skilled fighter. The Joker can't stand "toe-to-toe" with the bat, but he can put up a fight.

Other fights would include fights with mafia crooks. Afterall this film is supposed to deal with the problems that Batman and the Joker cause for orginized cirme, so there should be a good scene of Batman taking out a lot of armed thugs, say in the Iceburge lounge?

Also, I'd like to see the Joker plant a lead to himself in a rundown apartment building, with tennents still inside. Have Batman get there only to find a bomb and jump out the window right before the whole building explodes in flames.

There so much possibility for action, not ninjas like with Ra's Al Ghul and the League of Shadows (Assasins), but good solid action. Plus, with the Joker, you have more oprotunity to incorporate detective work (an element sadley missing from a movie whos villain prides himself on calling the Batman "Detective".)

-R

 

[Mr. Socko]

This movie will definitely have more action. I liked the close up action, that way it was harder to see what Batman was doing and it went quickly. But I think they should experiment with pulling the camera back and getting other shots as well. As for fighting, there will always be people for him to fight. And I'd like to see Batman and The Joker go at it. But Joker will cheat and using things like brass knuckles and crow bars.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Either in this film or the next, I want The Joker to push Batman so far that Batman beats the living **** out of him. So bad, in fact, that Gordon has to intervene.

Yeah like in "Hush" BATMAN # 613. Man BATS was so close to getting the last laugh by killing of The Clown Prince of Crime, until Gordon intervene and reminded BATMAN of what he stands for . and if he killed The Joker he'd become the very thing he's fought so long and hard to end .

 

[L0ngsh0t]

Meh the fighting is fine, Nolan said it best the fighting has to support the story, so there can't be this bizzarre ninja clown posse that follows joker around for the sole purpose of a sweet ass fight scene

my guess is the big action will come in some form of chase scene

and also Batman is a good fighter, but he is still human so i actually would prefer to not see him do something that a wolverine could do, or obviously a superman

Batman still kicks all there ass in the badass factor regardless

 

[Ronny Shade]

There've been like 202984572018720358971098275109275 threads on this.

 

[Cinemaman]

I want to see Joker somehow winning the first fight between him and Batman.

But after the third and final battle, Batman will kick the crap out of Joker

 

[Eddie Dean]

I want to see Joker somehow winning the first fight between him and Batman.

But after the third and final battle, Batman will kick the crap out of Joker

There we go.

 

[hutch007]

i liked the action in begins but i wouldnt mind an upgrade...like you guys have been saying with the camera pulled back a little more to see whats going on. i want to see nolan utilize batman's fighting capabilites on screen. plus i want to see batman beat the crap out of the joker!!=)

 

[L0ngsh0t]

well one thing on the camera aspect of all this is, Batman uses the shadows to fight a big group of people because he isn't superhuman, he is a well trained human with a wealth of utilities to his aid, Nolan is trying to emphisize the confunsion that Batman causes his enemies in Begins because they are unsuspecting (at least in the Harbor scene).

note that when AL Guhl puts three of his men on batman he says, i can't beat three of your men at once, he tackles one of them off the railing, and then finishes the other two off, its very realistcly what would happen if a normal man was in that situation, what is the most likely a normal man could succeed because those soldiers where just as well trained as he

it maybe no wolverine in the woods scene, but it suits the tone Nolan, Goyer, and Warner Brothers wanted to achive with the dark realistic Batman

 

[DA Harvey Dent]

I liked the fight-editing style in BB. I hope Nolan doesn't cave in to people's complaints and alters that aspect.

 

[superkong 500]

note that when AL Guhl puts three of his men on batman he says, i can't beat three of your men at once,

Oh he meant that as a sarcasm he wasn't really stating that he coudn't take on them he was being rather cocky stating sarcastically that they weren't a match for him. That's why ra's after that answers to batman something in the lines of "as you wish".

 

[Infinity9999x]

There've been like 202984572018720358971098275109275 threads on this.

202984572018720358971098275109275 and 1.

 

[explode7]

^Copy and paste is a wonderfull feature isn't it?

 

[WeaponXProject]

I liked the fight-editing style in BB. I hope Nolan doesn't cave in to people's complaints and alters that aspect.

I liked it, but! But damn that camera is moving an awful lot. Show an actual hit and not a rollercoaster upclose view of it. Know what I mean?

 

[yankee]

The quick cut edits are not my favorites but I can live with it. But my company in the movie felt like they needed dramamine though.

 

[Fried Gold]

I'd like less fighting in this movie. Batman shouldn't be about kung-fuing his way through faceless opponants, but rather disabling the opponent before the fight has begun.

 

[afan]

For my money the fights in BB were a mess.
A great movie fight scene is very much akin to a dance in that every move is choreographed and timed; each movement flows to the next. The fights in BB were more akin to a car crash very confusing and chaotic. I can undersatand an attempt to translate to an audience what Batman's foes are experiencing, but you only need to do that in one fight scene. "I get it already, now show me a good fight."

And I certainly seem to be in the minority, but I really would like to see The Batman deliver an old school one punch knock-out uppercut or round-house right.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I want a scene where Batman stands in sillohuette and just scares the **** out of some thugs and they surrender.

 

[dr.strange]

gammy and dr.fate are dead on, i wanna see bale kicking butt or even taking a few hits.save the stunt doubles for the jumping off buildings.there are so many directions to go as for as fight scenes.

 

[superkong 500]

As far as choreography goes i say stick just to keysi because with that style you can do any thing roundhouse kicks straight kicks, and any kind of punch and elbow. Look how cool was the last little fight in mission impossible 3 with tom cruise using keysi with his elbows. and that was just a small fight with ,well tom cruise. Imagine if they shot batman fighting as they shot cruise pulling the camera back a little. that would be kick ass both brutal spectacular and yet believable.