Financial Analyst Says Hollywood Sequels and Remakes Are Finally Getting "Played Out"

[The Guard]

Remakes and milking existing intellectual properties for film ideas is as old as film itself. Everyone acts like this is some new trend. Take just about any culturally important piece of literature and look up how many movies have been made based on it (Dracula, Frankenstein, Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde, Little Women, Les Miserables, etc.). And if it were a successful play or musical? You can bet they've been churning out films based on those plays since the dawn of cinema.

Today's film landscape isn't some chain of remakes, sequels, spin offs, or movies based on other properties; it's a link in a chain that's been going on for more than a century.

This.

 

[:eek:]

At some point in the future it might happen. But I don't see it happen anytime soon, especially with the still expanding international market that comes to the rescue for a lot of movies that bombs or at least disappoints in US. It is depressing that so many mediocre or straight out bad sequels continues to make more money than some better movies. But obviously a lot of people rather spend their money on something safe.

Oh, and Hotel Transylvania 2 looks to set a new OW-record for September...

 

[Teelie]

You can get modern day westerns, Euro-westerns, South Korean westerns. You can get variety. But the fact of the matter is, Westerns never went away. Neither will superheroes.

True, there are modern Westerns but they are seperated from the traditional Western and are still very much a niche whereas Superhero movies still have a lot more flexibility. You could do a Western in space (WestWorld) but it would not work as well as a superhero movie taking place in space.

 

[Blind_Lawyer]

True, there are modern Westerns but they are seperated from the traditional Western and are still very much a niche whereas Superhero movies still have a lot more flexibility. You could do a Western in space (WestWorld) but it would not work as well as a superhero movie taking place in space.

What do you mean modern westerns are separated from traditional westerns?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Call me when Transformers 5 makes less than $1 Billion box office income.

 

[Mightmitenot]

Fast & Furious 25 is possible... Sequels going on and on...

 

[Micromind]

We all know that the last Bond movie was a failure at Box office....wait.

As for remakes..how about Planet of the Apes ? It did well, so...

 

[Teelie]

What do you mean modern westerns are separated from traditional westerns?

Look at Westerns made pre 1970's and look at those made today.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I totally forgot I made this thread. It's very interesting to see so many of you think this analyst is full of it

 

[redhawk23]

I think the argument could be made that they're right about remakes specifically but in regards to sequels the evidence just isn't there.

 

[dark_b]

These Are Sequels No One Asked For or Wanted
http://www.slashfilm.com/summer-2016-sequels/

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

****** movies aren't making money? what a surprise

 

[Teelie]

And it is unrelated to whether or not they are sequels. People complain about sequel fatigue but then they ignore exceptions like Finding Dory or Civil War where the story is good. There are also a string of "original" movies that just flop at the box office and it is because they were not good movies.

 

[Shikamaru]

As far as superhero movies go, it's kinda true. This is the first year we finally have a shared universe besides the MCU, and both Fox and WB had a film that underperformed (BvS and Apocalypse). Deadpool did well though.

Over at Marvel, there's been a steady decline as far as the ensemble films go. Avengers made $1.5 mil, AoU $1.4, and now Civil War made $1.1. The drop from A1 to AoU is understandable, but fatigue might have played a factor in the drop from AoU to CW. I know this is anecdotal but I know many people in real life who are getting tired of the same Iron Man/Captain America stuff. That and BvS probably played a factor too. I used to think Marvel was 'safe' at least until end of Phase 3 but now I'm not so sure.

 

[Octoberist]

I think its the matter of WHAT sequels should be made. Because Hollywood doesn't think ahead, so if a movie becomes a hit, therefore it warrants a sequel. But maybe a movie becomes a hit due to different circumstances. Like in the case of the first 'Now Do You See Me'. Sure it was a hit, but maybe it was just a slow release date and it just became number one. But it wasn't because it was so well liked. Same thing with 'Alice 2'.

Doesn't mean people want to see another one.

 

[Rocketman]

I think Avatar 2, 3, 4, 5 is going to be the final nail in the coffin. Not only is it 10 years too late, but there are 4 of them being shoved in our face, and I think we'll shove back.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

****** movies aren't making money? what a surprise

This. It's not about sequels, just that too many of them have been poor to mediocre cash grabs. Make good sequels and they'll make money.

 

[2kt09]

I don't take those aggregate sites seriously, but RT seems to be aligning with my lackluster blockbuster (so far) assessment of this year.

 

[Jay Beezy]

This. It's not about sequels, just that too many of them have been poor to mediocre cash grabs. Make good sequels and they'll make money.

Specifically make organic sequels. I remember when San Andreas 2 was announced I thought of how totally unnecessary it was. Like people were talking about how unnecessary Independence Day Resurgence was. San Andreas 2 looks even more unnecessary.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Specifically make organic sequels. I remember when San Andreas 2 was announced I thought of how totally unnecessary it was. Like people were talking about how unnecessary Independence Day Resurgence was. San Andreas 2 looks even more unnecessary.

The first san andreas was unnecessary. And speaking of unnecessary who in the world approved of that crappy Nine Lives movie? I can't imagine how much money went down the toilet for that

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

This. It's not about sequels, just that too many of them have been poor to mediocre cash grabs. Make good sequels and they'll make money.

Word of mouth spreads too easily and too quickly anymore and there is so much competition that the old crappy blockbuster that gets a huge audience because 'SPLOSIONS is going the way of the dodo. There is the odd exception still out there, but lack of quality more often than not is crippling to a film's box office hopes these days.

 

[Jay Beezy]

The first san andreas was unnecessary. And speaking of unnecessary who in the world approved of that crappy Nine Lives movie? I can't imagine how much money went down the toilet for that

People enjoyed it nonetheless.

 

[Lencho01]

I think what's getting played out are sequels not many wanted or asked for, especially if they suck.

 

[DyeLorean]

I think studios are going to start giving original ideas a chance when a couple start making good money (more 10 Cloverfield Lane, less Jupiter Ascending).

I mean, the market has got to change at some point. It always does. We still got several years to go when it comes to superhero movies but I think sequels are starting to be less successful, specially this year.

 

[terry78]

I suspect the Bourne sequel will do pretty well later this month, as it's not really a giant CG spectacle, but Matt Damon kicking ass.