Horror Five Nights at Freddy's

[Sithborg]

Aaand Willy's Wonderland takes the W. You love to see it.

The Bannana Splits Movie also gets the win.

That's not what anybody is saying at all. This isn't going to be a misunderstood classic but when you see critics writing pretentious paragraph after pretentious paragraph about Mario or FNAF, it becomes unintentionally funny and all I can do is laugh.

Come on man. First of all, its a horror film. That right off the bat puts it at a big disadvantage with critics. And while there has been some improvement on that front, it is still a genre that is happy with 40% on RT. And lets be frank, a PG 13 horror movie also has a big hill to climb with critics.

As for Mario, it is okay to have people like something that has a bunch of very big flaws as a film. It was freaking ADHD the movie. Its like the new MK movie. I absolutely understand why and how fans liked that movie, even if it was a bad movie.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That's where you and I will disagree because I'm far more interested in what people who are familiar with the material have to say about it than those who aren't. It's why I joined these forums back in the day to begin with. A gore filled adaptation of FNAF completely misses the point. Same thing with Scary Stories a few years back, people whined that movie wasn't rated R when it's adapted from literal children's books. I have very little interest in whatever pretentious ass hat from rogerebert.com has to FNAF outside of getting a good chuckle.

What you're talking about is not about a writer being pretentious or not "getting it". It's you not wanting their opinion, unless it comes from a very specific place. Which is your right, but has nothing to do with the quality of film criticism. It's a fan being a fan. Which is cool. But this is why the attacks on RT and critics in general come off like fans wanting something that has nothing to do with film criticism, but simply their fandom.

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark has a 77% on RT. Any misgivings some reviewers had, didn't change an overall positive impression the film received. FNAF is at 25%. Fans may enjoy it, that doesn't mean others will. And that's both their rights.

 

[DarkKnight]

The Bannana Splits Movie also gets the win.





Come on man. First of all, its a horror film. That right off the bat puts it at a big disadvantage with critics. And while there has been some improvement on that front, it is still a genre that is happy with 40% on RT. And lets be frank, a PG 13 horror movie also has a big hill to climb with critics.

As for Mario, it is okay to have people like something that has a bunch of very big flaws as a film. It was freaking ADHD the movie. Its like the new MK movie. I absolutely understand why and how fans liked that movie, even if it was a bad movie.

Sithborg,

I agree on Banana Spits lol. For me it was one of those bad but fun movies. I like this particular genre of films in general. One of my all-time favorites being The Funhouse. I guess that can be considered as being similar in genre...

Mortal Kombat is another. It was definitely very flawed. Some things they did extremely well and other areas very poor. Overall, I enjoyed it enough to the point I'd like to see a sequel.

I went into Mario with low expectations and they delivered more than expected so overall fun time and enjoyed it with the family.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Bannana Splits Movie also gets the win.





Come on man. First of all, its a horror film. That right off the bat puts it at a big disadvantage with critics. And while there has been some improvement on that front, it is still a genre that is happy with 40% on RT. And lets be frank, a PG 13 horror movie also has a big hill to climb with critics.

As for Mario, it is okay to have people like something that has a bunch of very big flaws as a film. It was freaking ADHD the movie. Its like the new MK movie. I absolutely understand why and how fans liked that movie, even if it was a bad movie.

Really? I've found a lot of great horror over the last several years thanks to RT. Doesn't mean I always agree, but a lot of the Shudder originals that rock have reviewed pretty well.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

What you're talking about is not about a writer being pretentious or not "getting it". It's you not wanting their opinion, unless it comes from a very specific place. Which is your right, but has nothing to do with the quality of film criticism. It's a fan being a fan. Which is cool. But this is why the attacks on RT and critics in general come off like fans wanting something that has nothing to do with film criticism, but simply their fandom.

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark has a 77% on RT. Any misgivings some reviewers had, didn't change an overall positive impression the film received. FNAF is at 25%. Fans may enjoy it, that doesn't mean others will. And that's both their rights.

And I completely disagree. Expecting an R rated movie to be made out what is essentially a kid's franchise is completely missing the point and I will continue to laugh at them accordingly which is my right.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And I completely disagree. Expecting an R rated movie to be made out what is essentially a kid's franchise is completely missing the point and I will continue to laugh at them accordingly which is my right.

What about what you're saying here should've changed their reviews for a movie they didn't enjoy?

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

What about what you're saying here should've changed their reviews for a movie they didn't enjoy?

Less of this nonsense

And more of this

 

[DarthSkywalker]

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What in the world is wrong with the first one?

More over, you do realize that both of them didn't like it right? So it didn't change the review.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

What in the world is wrong with the first one?

More over, you do realize that both of them didn't like it right? So it didn't change the review.

You've been completely missing the point. It's not that they didn't like it. It's hyperbolic negativity that's laughable. Same thing with Mario. I've said this multiple times now: I do not expect them to grade this on a curve but acknowledging who this is for goes a long way with me.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You've been completely missing the point. It's not that they didn't like it. It's hyperbolic negativity that's laughable. Same thing with Mario. I've said this multiple times now: I do not expect them to grade this on a curve but acknowledging who this is for goes a long way with me.

So your issue is artistic expression?

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

So your issue is artistic expression?

LMAO. Reach any harder and you're gonna pull something. You don't have to agree with me, but don't bait.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

LMAO. Reach any harder and you're gonna pull something. You don't have to agree with me, but don't bait.

Did you read Ebert?

All the writer wrote was that the movie was so bad, that he had to consider other things. And he made it a fun little game of escalation. It does not, in anyway, change the point that he was so bored, it forced him to think about something else.

 

[Kane52630]

I'll throw out there that I thought the Super Mario movie was just middle of the road and I've seen way worse movies from this year alone. (hi Spinning Gold)

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

Great points all around from all of you defending film criticism Fully agreed on all fronts. The most hardcore defenders of Five Nights are now pushing the same platitudes that Mario fans used against critics earlier this year. The idea that ANY critic is going into FNAF expecting an award-winning masterpiece is a lie or a major misunderstanding. Another problem is everyone pushing the idea that a film with these ingredients couldn't even be genuinely good and shouldn't be seen or reviewed with that expectation, that it should be given major leeway and an uncritical eye because it's supposed to be what, bad? There are many films out there with an extremely similar target audience, tone, and expectations. Just from this year, a silly PG-13 horror film with campy elements, no gore, and a big family element in both the film and the audience, 93% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's M3GAN. How about Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark? 77% on RT. How about Goosebumps from 2015 starring Jack Black? 78%. The idea that critics wouldn't appreciate a film like Five Nights at Freddy's is a falsehood, it just has to be better than the slop that was released today.

I'm also in full agreement that the Super Mario Movie is genuinely atrocious and it's so far my least favorite film of 2023.

The fact that you guys feel the need to "defend film criticism" is so strange to me. Like I said in my original statement, the obsession this community has with aggregate scores and critical reception is so weird. You cited three separate scores in this post alone. It's hilarious.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'll throw out there that I thought the Super Mario movie was just middle of the road and I've seen way worse movies from this year alone. (hi Spinning Gold)

Is this an invitation to watch Spinning Gold?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The fact that you guys feel the need to "defend film criticism" is so strange to me. Like I said in my original statement, the obsession this community has with aggregate scores and critical reception is so weird. You cited three separate scores in this post alone. It's hilarious.

The only people obsessed with aggregate scores and critical receptions are fans who can't handle others disagreeing with them.

 

[CaptainWagner]

That's good!

The presales for this thing have been massive over here, most showings for tomorrow are nearly sold out. Should be a fun time.

It may well be trash, but it is nice to see a new popular franchise make the crossover to box office hits. What else does Gen Z even have for iconic franchises? It's all so much recycled nostalgia these days, I can't complain about an actual new IP being a hit.

The cope.

It's so funny to me that these losers are still trying to use 'Cuties' to dunk on the entire field of film criticism. What's even funnier is them acting like this when they haven't even seen the FNAF movie yet.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It may well be trash, but it is nice to see a new popular franchise make the crossover to box office hits. What else does Gen Z even have for iconic franchises? It's all so much recycled nostalgia these days, I can't complain about an actual new IP being a hit.

It's so funny to me that these losers are still trying to use 'Cuties' to dunk on the entire field of film criticism. What's even funnier is them acting like this when they haven't even seen the FNAF movie yet.

Despicable Me, Avatar (not that one), Twilight, Spongebob, Harry Potter, Frozen, High School Musical, and maybe Stranger Things?

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

What is hilarious? Those scores are examples of critics favoring films that have many similar qualities that Five Nights at Freddy's does. That disproves the idea that critics would have some unfair bias against these sorts of films, it's entirely relevant to the conversation. I have plenty more examples You've expressed in several ways that YOU'RE upset about this film's critical reception. "The obsession this community has with aggregate scores and critical reception is so weird." seems a little hypocritical in that context. For me, I saw the critical reception, shrugged, and went to see the film for myself.

What comes to defending film criticism, that's an important issue to me. Film criticism is as old as film itself as an art form. A well-written film review is a valuable source, perhaps even a companion to the film itself. Is it gospel? No, and it shouldn't be, everyone has their tastes and opinions. I love film criticism, but I don't take it nearly as seriously as everyone pushing against it does. Critics are under constant attack and 99% of the time for no sensible reason whatsoever. Those of you who are upset by critics and Rotten Tomatoes in particular should probably just stop paying attention to it. That's completely valid. One of my all-time favorite films, Suspiria 2018 has a recommendation percentage of 65% and an average score of 6.9/10 on Rotten Tomatoes. To me, that film is a pure five-star masterpiece. Am I offended that critics don't generally agree with me? No. I couldn't care less, it's my favorite film, not theirs.

Me finding the critical reception of this film hilarious and the hyperbole surrounding it does not equal me being upset. You guys are the ones posting RT scores like they actually matter. From where I'm sitting, Film criticism isn't an "art form" especially in age of the click bait news cycle. Some of you seem awfully upset at me thinking it's hilarious though. My statements have been about actual reviews I've seen and actual discussion I've seen online. I used snippets from RT for convenience, nothing more.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Despicable Me, Avatar (not that one), Twilight, Spongebob, Harry Potter, Frozen, High School Musical, and maybe Stranger Things?

It's always hard to track for me, since I'm stuck in between millennials and Gen Z and that definitely skews my perception

Despicable Me, Frozen, Stranger Things all definitely feel right. Harry Potter and Spongebob feel older. They were already pretty huge when I was growing up.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Me finding the critical reception of this film hilarious and the hyperbole surrounding it does not equal me being upset. You guys are the ones posting RT scores like they actually matter. From where I'm sitting, Film criticism isn't an "art form" especially in age of the click bait news cycle. Some of you seem awfully upset at me thinking it's hilarious though. My statements have been about actual reviews I've seen and actual discussion I've seen online. I used snippets from RT for convenience, nothing more.

You posted literal screenshots from RT...

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

The only people obsessed with aggregate scores and critical receptions are fans who can't handle others disagreeing with them.

Yeah... because there's totality not a thread about critical reception and RT scores in almost every subforum on this site

You posted literal screenshots from RT...

Can you actually read my comment instead just responding to it or am I being punked? I addressed this in the comment you quoted.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah... because there's totality not thread about critical reception and RT scores in almost every subforum on this

1. This a fan forum where we've had numerous meltdowns over critical reception.

2. Observing critical reception is very different then reacting to it.

Can you actually read my comment instead just responding to it or am I being punked? I addressed in this in the comment you quoted.

A pre-mediated defense doesn't change my point. RT is shorthand and even you used it here.

You keep trying to play it like others are super into this and you're just chill. But that's not how you've responded. Calling things pretentious and missing the point, and then your example was someone simply being playful in a review.

I also noticed you've never answered these points, so I'm going to quote it, in case you missed it:

Did you read Ebert?

All the writer wrote was that the movie was so bad, that he had to consider other things. And he made it a fun little game of escalation. It does not, in anyway, change the point that he was so bored, it forced him to think about something else.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

1. This a fan forum where we've had numerous meltdowns over critical reception.

2. Observing critical reception is very different then reacting to it.

A pre-mediated defense doesn't change my point. RT is shorthand and even you used it here.

You keep trying to play it like others are super into this and you're just chill. But that's not how you've responded. Calling things pretentious and missing the point, and then your example was someone simply being playful in a review.

I also noticed you've never answered these points, so I'm going to quote it, in case you missed it:

The fact that it's discussed at all is ridiculous to me. This is the only film related community I'm in where it's even talked about. This forum is what introduced me to Rotten Tomatoes. Again, you folks seem far more upset about me being dismissive of the critical reception than anything else.

 

[Arnold Rimmer]

Saw the movie in Dolby. It was pretty fun gateway horror, even if you didn’t know the games. I think critics were being too mean on this one.