For once... a dumb liberal!!

[gap5ewl]

BOTH liberals and conservatives are like this (different view points of course).

 

[NyteWing]

If you're too far on either side, you're probably a moron

 

[Spider-Bite]

I would have said that if the Iraqi people weren't so inmature and prejudiced against kurds, sh.ites, sunnis, arabs, and bathists a cruel dictator wouldn't have been necessary to hold the country together and actually get things done.

It sucks really bad, but the Iraqi people really have nobody to blame but themselves for that being true. look whats happening now that he's gone. A shi.te soldier will not kill a sh.ite insurgent to protect anybody that isn't sh.ite. And vice versa.

I hate to make this generalization but the Iraqi people appear to be very stupid, in the sense that they think they can actually solve problems by killing each other. they couldn't be more wrong. They are just building their own disaster.

 

[Spider-Bite]

If you're too far on either side, you're probably a moron

1.favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. 2.(often initial capital letter

) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. 3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism. 4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties. 5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers. 6.of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies. 7.free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant: a liberal attitude toward foreigners. 8.open-minded or tolerant, esp. free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc. 9.characterized by generosity and willingness to give in large amounts: a liberal donor. 10.given freely or abundantly; generous: a liberal donation. 11.not strict or rigorous; free; not literal: a liberal interpretation of a rule. 12.of, pertaining to, or based on the liberal arts. 13.of, pertaining to, or befitting a freeman. –noun 14.a person of liberal principles or views, esp. in politics or religion. 15.(often initial capital letter

) a member of a liberal party in politics, esp. of the Liberal party in Great Britain

I don't see anything moronic about any of that.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal

 

[Kritish]

"Liberals, it's not that they're ignorant, it's just they know so much that isn't so."- President Ronald Reagan

I just thought that was kinda funny, given the thread subject

Ronald Reagan was an arrogant, prehistoric hemorrhoid.

 

[Spider-Bite]

yup Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King were real idiots. so was that Jesus guy conservatives pretend to worship so much.

 

[SuperDude]

Ugh, the liberal vs. conservative attitude is so ridiculous. Were all people who really, in the end, want the same things. Unfortunately, many have reached a point where they believe their point of view to be infallable and are not even open to discussion about it.

You can see this in the way people speak about 'debate' in regards to having politically geared conversations. "You're no good at debating" and things like that. Debating really isn't what we should be doing. We should be having political disscussions. People should be coming together to figure out what the best solution for the country/world is instead of deciding upon a viewpoint before hand and trying to prove themselves right by any means necissary.

Now, there are people who hold morals that cannot be comprimised (I am one of those people) but I'm talking about other things; economy, government procedure, foriegn policy etc. No one philosophy, liberal or conservative, is always going to be right all the time.

Unfortunately, the two political crime families we have running the country right now do not see it this way. They either need to realize this or we, as the people, need to impose this upon them or simply eleminate them all together. The problem with this is that many of the general public are entrenched in their partisan thinking as well. I believe that unless we realize this and institute some reform aimed specifically at this problem, we, the United States, are just going to continue to become more and more fractured.

George Washington for the win!

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Ugh, the liberal vs. conservative attitude is so ridiculous. Were all people who really, in the end, want the same things. Unfortunately, many have reached a point where they believe their point of view to be infallable and are not even open to discussion about it.

You can see this in the way people speak about 'debate' in regards to having politically geared conversations. "You're no good at debating" and things like that. Debating really isn't what we should be doing. We should be having political disscussions. People should be coming together to figure out what the best solution for the country/world is instead of deciding upon a viewpoint before hand refusing to budge regardless of what happens.

Now, there are people who hold morals that cannot be comprimised (I am one of those people) but I'm talking about other things; economy, government procedure, foriegn policy etc. No one philosophy, liberal or conservative, is always going to be right all the time.

Unfortunately, the two political crime families we have running the country right now do not see it this way. They either need to realize this or we, as the people, need to impose this upon them or simply eleminate them all together. The problem with this is that many of the general public are entrenched in their partisan thinking as well. I believe that unless we realize this and institute some reform aimed specifically at this problem, we, the United States, are just going to continue to become more and more fractured.

George Washington for the win!

 

[SuperDude]

Heh heh.

What I mean is, moral issues are different. The way the country should be run with regards to the procedure and beuraucracy is one thing, but people's morals and beliefs can stem from things that they simply hold to be concrete. There should be no problems with discussing them, but it's understandable if someone doesn't change. It's like what the Supreme Court said, "I know vulgarity when I see." Sometimes a person just feels that, morally, something is a certain way. For the most part, these issues should just be left alone and people should be allowed to choose. However, sometimes moral views can be in opposition to one another and then a majority vote is really the only to solve the problem.

 

[Halcohol]

I laugh at people who go to protests with no idea what they're protesting

 

[Spider-Bite]

Ugh, the liberal vs. conservative attitude is so ridiculous. Were all people who really, in the end, want the same things. Unfortunately, many have reached a point where they believe their point of view to be infallable and are not even open to discussion about it.

You can see this in the way people speak about 'debate' in regards to having politically geared conversations. "You're no good at debating" and things like that. Debating really isn't what we should be doing. We should be having political disscussions. People should be coming together to figure out what the best solution for the country/world is instead of deciding upon a viewpoint before hand and trying to prove themselves right by any means necissary.

Now, there are people who hold morals that cannot be comprimised (I am one of those people) but I'm talking about other things; economy, government procedure, foriegn policy etc. No one philosophy, liberal or conservative, is always going to be right all the time.

Unfortunately, the two political crime families we have running the country right now do not see it this way. They either need to realize this or we, as the people, need to impose this upon them or simply eleminate them all together. The problem with this is that many of the general public are entrenched in their partisan thinking as well. I believe that unless we realize this and institute some reform aimed specifically at this problem, we, the United States, are just going to continue to become more and more fractured.

George Washington for the win!

I had no idea conservatives wanted gay people to get married. I feel so enlightened now.

WRROOOONGGG!

Liberals want to make the world a happier place, and conservatives want it to be happier for only those that they think derserve it! Liberals want to help the poor, while conservatives claim if your poor, it's your own fault, and you deserve to be poor. Liberals wanted women to have freedom and equal status in the home. Conservatives wanted them to make babies, babsysit them and wait on the man. Luckily liberals won that battle, and created an America with acceptance of strong women.

It's ridiculous to say we want the same thing. Some of them do, but a lot of them don't.

 

[souloffire]

I had no idea conservatives wanted gay people to get married. I feel so enlightened now.

WRROOOONGGG!

Liberals want to make the world a happier place, and conservatives want it to be happier for only those that they think derserve it! Liberals want to help the poor, while conservatives claim if your poor, it's your own fault, and you deserve to be poor. Liberals wanted women to have freedom and equal status in the home. Conservatives wanted them to make babies, babsysit them and wait on the man. Luckily liberals won that battle, and created an America with acceptance of strong women.

It's ridiculous to say we want the same thing. Some of them do, but a lot of them don't.

Who's ass did you pull this **** out of?

 

[Addendum]

Some emo band

 

[JLBats]

Some emo band

Conservatives CUT THEMSELVEss

 

[Addendum]

And independents give them knives

 

[Spider-Bite]

Who's ass did you pull this **** out of?

American History's Ass! You can't deny it! Liberals believe in a different better future. Conservatives want to preserve society. that's why they are called conservatives rather than progressives.

 

[Addendum]

The future is over-rated.

 

[Kritish]

I had no idea conservatives wanted gay people to get married. I feel so enlightened now.

WRROOOONGGG!

Liberals want to make the world a happier place, and conservatives want it to be happier for only those that they think derserve it! Liberals want to help the poor, while conservatives claim if your poor, it's your own fault, and you deserve to be poor. Liberals wanted women to have freedom and equal status in the home. Conservatives wanted them to make babies, babsysit them and wait on the man. Luckily liberals won that battle, and created an America with acceptance of strong women.

It's ridiculous to say we want the same thing. Some of them do, but a lot of them don't.

 

[souloffire]

American History's Ass! You can't deny it! Liberals believe in a different better future. Conservatives want to preserve society. that's why they are called conservatives rather than progressives.

This has nothing to do with what you said. You made a generalization about both Liberals and Conservatives that is such b.s. Btw beliveing in a "different better future" is something that is not exclusive too just liberals.

 

[Kritish]

Anyone that called French fries "Freedom fries" is an idiot.
Anyone that thinks the Geneva Convention is "useless" is an idiot.
Anyone that's pro NSA wire-tapping is an idiot.
Anyone that thinks Gay marriage will instantly cause socioty to collapse is an idiot.

So yeah, I'm a liberal I gusse.

 

[Spider-Bite]

This has nothing to do with what you said. You made a generalization about both Liberals and Conservatives that is such b.s. Btw beliveing in a "different better future" is something that is not exclusive too just liberals.

that's why i said some do want the same thing I want, but most don't.

I merely proved that conservatives and liberals do not want the same thing. And a perfect example is equal rights for citizens. Conservatives do not want gays getting married. And in the past they didn't want women or blacks having equal rights to white males.

 

[Addendum]

Even though you had "Dixiecrats" like Strom Thurmond, who supported South Carolina's segregation laws in the 40s?

 

[Kritish]

I also forgot to add, anybody that threw away dixie chick albums is an idiot.

 

[souloffire]

that's why i said some do want the same thing I want, but most don't.

I merely proved that conservatives and liberals do not want the same thing. And a perfect example is equal rights for citizens. Conservatives do not want gays getting married. And in the past they didn't want women or blacks having equal rights to white males.

True, but my comment on generalizing for this.......

Liberals want to make the world a happier place, and conservatives want it to be happier for only those that they think derserve it! Liberals want to help the poor, while conservatives claim if your poor, it's your own fault, and you deserve to be poor.

....... and not so much on gay marrige.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Even though you had "Dixiecrats" like Strom Thurmond, who supported South Carolina's segregation laws in the 40s?

Never heard of him, but I can tell you already Strom was a southern conservative democrat, and not a liberal. Not all democrats are liberals. Matin Luther King was a liberal. Malcom X chose to fight for his battles the conservative way, with violence.