Spayed or Neutered!? I have diabetes!

[SLVRSR4]

I had a call from a friend and found out that they want to give me their dog. I had watched this dog for as long as a year and this brings me to my question.

When Bessie gets here my horndog chihuahua Tito is going to be htere. Bessie is a rat terrier with hip displacement disorder (and has this supermuscular leg because of it) I'm pretty sure that Tito is going to get her pregnant within hours of her being there.

I don't want to get Tito neutered because i have seen neutered dogs and they lose their will to live! I also have a vendetta against this dog. but to take that away is something i can't see done.

I don't want to have Bessie fixed because then Tito will constantly be raping her just like he does to my cat now. my cat has been hiding for a week now because i was watching a German Shepherd. i'm not sure if Bessie will be ok with a cat in the house.

Someone reads this and puts a dry smiley @#$% u. I'm bored and this is an actual problem not like these other relationship problems and @#$%



Then i found out i have diabetes! I walk into the nurses office with a headache and see this list for diabetes. I read the firs t one for low blood sugar. But when i read the high blood pressure! i asked to get this checked out and i find out about skipping generations to me. NOw I find the Diabetes commercials twice as funny. is there something wrong iwth that?

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Life is full of surprises

 

[jaguarr]

If the dog with hip dysplatia gets pregnant, it may endanger her life. At least one of your dogs is going to have to get fixed if you want to keep her safe. And neutering can actually help extend a male dog's life and keep him from running off in search of a little strange whenever he catches a scent. We've had several neutered male dogs over the years and they've all been happy, healthy dogs so I don't know where your "they lose the will to live" comment comes from.

And, now you have something in common with Wilford Brimley.

jag

 

[SuperFerret]

Spaying and neutering your dogs (and cats, for you cat people) drastically reduces the chance of the animal contracting all sorts of disorders, including cancer.

Also, female animals may get a disorder called pyometra, which means literally "pus in the uterus", and it can be fatal if a complete ovariohysterectomy is not performed.

Trust me, I'm a vet tech, I see this sort of crap daily. Please, ladies and gentlemen, unless you plan to breed your animals (which you should only do after doing a lot of research first) spay and neuter your pets.

 

[thedeadite]

for pretty much any mammal it's much easier and safer to fix a male than a female. Not one of my dogs or cats has ever given me an indication of a loss of a "will to live" after being fixed. Actually i strongly considered getting my male rat fixed but there where no vets in the city that preformed the operation on small animals.

 

[SLVRSR4]

If the dog with hip dysplatia gets pregnant, it may endanger her life. At least one of your dogs is going to have to get fixed if you want to keep her safe. And neutering can actually help extend a male dog's life and keep him from running off in search of a little strange whenever he catches a scent. We've had several neutered male dogs over the years and they've all been happy, healthy dogs so I don't know where your "they lose the will to live" comment comes from.

And, now you have something in common with Wilford Brimley.

jag

My grandparents had a cockerspaniel and shortly after his operation he ran out into the street and was hit by car! He never went into the street he was afraid of cars! I think that animals can contemplate things like suicide from this just like my rabbit killed itself.

 

[SuperFerret]

My grandparents had a cockerspaniel and shortly after his operation he ran out into the street and was hit by car! He never went into the street he was afraid of cars! I think that animals can contemplate things like suicide from this just like my rabbit killed itself.

I doubt the dog intended to kill itself, but behavior does change after an alteration of that kind as certain hormones stop being produced in such large quantities, so the dog's sudden change in behavior (no longer being afraid of cars, or being more afraid of something that may have spooked him into the street, etc.)

Rabbit's on the other hand, accidently kill themselves often. Rabbit's bones make up less than 8% of their body weight, and thus their bones are easily broken, even by the rabbit's own muscle contractions. Combine that fact with the easily-spooked prey animal mentality rabbits have, and you can see why many rabbits break their own spines when frightened. It's imperative that when approaching a rabbit, make absolutely sure it sees you before you touch it (this is best done by approaching the rabbit from the side where it can plainly see you).

 

[SuperFerret]

for pretty much any mammal it's much easier and safer to fix a male than a female. Not one of my dogs or cats has ever given me an indication of a loss of a "will to live" after being fixed. Actually i strongly considered getting my male rat fixed but there where no vets in the city that preformed the operation on small animals.

Unfortunately, since most small animals have such short lifespans, rats and such are not usually neutered or spayed. Animals living upwards of eight years (rabbits, dogs, cats, ferrets, etc.) are more likely to be spayed.

 

[thedeadite]

it can be done though...and it was sad having to separate my little ratties...one litter was enough. last time i get rats when they're too young to tell their sex.

 

[SuperFerret]

it can be done though...and it was sad having to separate my little ratties...one litter was enough. last time i get rats when they're too young to tell their sex.

Yes, it can be, but many vets may not do the procedure, and it may not be worth the expense in the long run. Ultimately it's your call.

As for sexing rats, try to get males, the proportionate size of their testicles makes them easy to recognize and castration (if you choose to do it) is a much simpler (and less expensive) procedure.

 

[thedeadite]

oh for sure it's alot easier...and was my initial plan. I'm passed the thought of getting him fixed now, i just have them separated. He's over a year old now so there's no real sense in the matter. Ironically enough, I'm thinking of getting a ferret though after all the ratties are gone.

 

[SuperFerret]

My advice, as always, is be 150% sure you know just what you are getting into when you bring an animal into your house. To not do so is unfair to both you and the animal. Good luck.

 

[thedeadite]

i always research pets as much as possible before bringing them into my home and making myself responsible for their health and happiness. Dogs, cats, rodents etc... all are included.

 

[SuperFerret]

Good. If there were more people like you, my job would be infinitely easier.

 

[Sloth7d]

Don't nutter your pets. I think that is the cruelest thing you can do to a dog/cat.

 

[SuperFerret]

And allowing it to die earlier than it needed to thanks to a myriad of cancers isn't?

 

[Sloth7d]

And allowing it to die earlier than it needed to thanks to a myriad of cancers isn't?

People and animals get sick and die. Thats the way of life. Can't prevent that. Its nature. But to take away an animals reproductive utensil is just wrong. Its something I know I'd rather die before giving up and if you take it from me you might aswell kill me next.
Personally, based on your scenario, let me tell you this. Because I'm talking to you I know you have a computer, and since 99% of america has one, I'm assuming you own a cell phone. So should someone of a higher authority take those away from you because those items give you an increased chance of developing brain cancer? No. They should let you live and enjoy your life. And those are material possesions. Imagine how an animal must feel once you've removed his genetals.

 

[SuperFerret]

People and animals get sick and die. Thats the way of life. Can't prevent that. Its nature. But to take away an animals reproductive utensil is just wrong. Its something I know I'd rather die before giving up and if you take it from me you might aswell kill me next.
Personally, based on your scenario, let me tell you this. Because I'm talking to you I know you have a computer, and since 99% of america has one, I'm assuming you own a cell phone. So should someone of a higher authority take those away from you because those items give you an increased chance of developing brain cancer? No. They should let you live and enjoy your life. And those are material possesions. Imagine how an animal must feel once you've removed his genetals.

You and I are humans, therefore we have concerns that are trivial, and we pointlessly value things we may never use. Animals are not concerned with whether or not they have testicles or ovaries, hell, some dogs don't even seem to care that they lost an entire leg, but if a person lost a finger (for example) they'd be complaining about it for the rest of thier life.

And yes, illness and death is a huge part of life. I've worked at the vet clinic I currently work for for about a year, and the number of animals that have passed on while in my arms has got to be nearing the 100 mark. I know death, as I look it in it's face on a daily basis. Yes, it is a part of life, but as living beings we should strive to preserve live at any cost, and surely, if you had to choose between your balls and your life, what would you choose? If we can prevent possible problems, then we should do whatever it takes to do so.

 

[Sloth7d]

You and I are humans, therefore we have concerns that are trivial, and we pointlessly value things we may never use. Animals are not concerned with whether or not they have testicles or ovaries, hell, some dogs don't even seem to care that they lost an entire leg, but if a person lost a finger (for example) they'd be complaining about it for the rest of thier life.

And yes, illness and death is a huge part of life. I've worked at the vet clinic I currently work for for about a year, and the number of animals that have passed on while in my arms has got to be nearing the 100 mark. I know death, as I look it in it's face on a daily basis. Yes, it is a part of life, but as living beings we should strive to preserve live at any cost, and surely, if you had to choose between your balls and your life, what would you choose? If we can prevent possible problems, then we should do whatever it takes to do so.

Well, no human has ever talked to a dog, so we can't know that. What I do know is that I hold a strong pride over my grapefruits and wouldn't trade them for all the money in the world and would want them taken from me to reduce cancer. And since I wouldn't want my area tampered with I wouldn't have my pet have his area neutered not knowing how he feels about the subject.

 

[SuperFerret]

I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. Even to a point that I rarely go, but to put it bluntly, I think your opinion is flat out stupid. I'm not trying to be offensive, though it will come off as such, but I have seen so many things that just tell me that you are wrong.

Do what you wish, that's your right. As of this moment, pets are still considered property, so whatever you do (or not do) to your dog is up to you. I'm just giving the general consensus of the veterinary community.

And I realize that it is hypocritical of me to basically say that we have to make decisions for the animals because they can't make them themselves, because I've always been a supporter of considering other species as people, but I feel that I have enough of an understanding of an animal's point of view to support this, and I will continue to stand by it.

 

[Sloth7d]

I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. Even to a point that I rarely go, but to put it bluntly, I think your opinion is flat out stupid. I'm not trying to be offensive, though it will come off as such, but I have seen so many things that just tell me that you are wrong.

Do what you wish, that's your right. As of this moment, pets are still considered property, so whatever you do (or not do) to your dog is up to you. I'm just giving the general consensus of the veterinary community.

And I realize that it is hypocritical of me to basically say that we have to make decisions for the animals because they can't make them themselves, because I've always been a supporter of considering other species as people, but I feel that I have enough of an understanding of an animal's point of view to support this, and I will continue to stand by it.

See, but I can't think of a living animal as "just" property. If you hurt it, it cries. If you're a stranger it attacks. Like I said, if you want to force your will on an animal even though you don't know whether it wants something done or not, the constitution(somehow) allows that. Me on the other hand, I know that a pet is more than "just" property and anyone who thinks as such should not have one at all. It is a living creature. It was a creature designed with genetalia. And I am already against medical science having the means to artficially make humans into something that nature didn't intend for them to be, but I'm okay with that because thats their decision.
Though, animals don't have consent and can't communicate with us, which is why you can't have sex with them, legally. Thats why I wonder how people think its okay to neuter pets. Is it because its conveniant for us? So we don't have to worry about them making babies or having them?
Because that would be selfish. And if nature intended for my pet to develope cancer, then so be it. Apparently, according to medical science everything gives you cancer now-a-days, anyway. I would not let some ambiguous study convince me to physically alter the state of my pet, nor would I do the same to myself if a doctor told me neutering yourself would lower your risk of cancer. And since I feel that way, then there is no way I would do the same to my pet not knowing how he feels about this.

 

[SLVRSR4]

i didn't know that was the case with Rabbits superferret. I'm pretty sure that is why my grandparent's dog died but it makes me wonder if it really was suicide still. info on hte situation my dog Tito immediately tried to hump her and she bit the hell out of him. So i've decided to get Tito neutered.