For Political Lovers: If you were to run for president what would be your platform?

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

That's some good stuff, Jaguarr... except for "wealth redistibution" and legalizing pot, I'd vote for that.

 

[Kritish]

That's some good stuff, Jaguarr... except for "wealth redistibution" and legalizing pot, I'd vote for that.

Cause heaven knows the devil weed is what's wrong with the world.

 

[Darthphere]

Holy **** dude, seriously stop using any of the rolleyes smilies.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

I could care less how old any of you are-If you cant argue the point without becoming insulting -it doesn't matter what age you are.

For those that dont know we already have socialized medicine-No I'm not talking about County Hospitals.I'm talking about patients that dont pay their bills which are then offset by State and Federal resources.

They tally up all those unpaid bills at the end of the year-And the Hospital gets broken off a check.Plain and simple
Kind of unfair compared to the way County Hospitals are funded wouldn't you agree?

That is very true and well-stated.

The idea that-If we take the next step-Have ALL the bills paid for by Federal taxes,,..is somehow going to bring down the level of care-or the education of the doctor giving you treatment is absurd!

And yet I've SEEN it.

 

[EdRyder]

That is very true and well-stated.
And yet I've SEEN it.

Can I get an example?

You know firefighting use to be privatized-You cant say that the level of performance began to suffer once they became State funded.

That the misconcepton Im begining to think the American public falls for "Im gettin paid by the State,..I can half ass it all day long!! Lets preform heart surgery with this old rusty chainsaw yee whoo!"

 

[jaguarr]

That's some good stuff, Jaguarr... except for "wealth redistibution" and legalizing pot, I'd vote for that.

The dollars that could come from regulating and taxing pot could help fund the fight against the really nasty drugs like meth, crack and heroin that are really the problem in our society.

As for "wealth redistribution", the current tax laws are set up to truly benefit the 5% of our population that currently is in possession with roughly 80% of the true wealth in this country. The middle class and especially the lower income class are getting a very raw deal where that's concerned and carrying a disproportionate share of the tax burden in comparison with those who can actually really afford it to begin with. And, with all these jobs being pushed overseas, they have very little recourse to increase their earning potential at all while the inordinately rich corporate barons and business owners reap the benefits of having to pay smaller labor costs and getting even more tax breaks from the countries they send work to.

jag

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Can I get an example?

You know firefighting use to be privatized-You cant say that the level of performance began to suffer once they became State funded.

That the misconcepton Im begining to think the American public falls for "Im gettin paid by the State,..I can half ass it all day long!! Lets preform heart surgery with this old rusty chainsaw yee whoo!"

I'm a state employee (therapist who provides free services to the indigent population) and I've seen the above State worker mentality hard at work. Believe me, that is not an entirely untrue stereotype. Also, here's your example:

I get to observe socialized medicine EVERY DAY in Tahlequah Oklahoma-- It's what the Feds have set up for the Tribes. Yeah, you don't pay for it in $ as a patient... you pay for it in 7 to 12 hour ER waits and the WORST Doctors available. The good ones tend to work where they can make money.

Having seen it daily... really, trust me, YOU DO NOT WANT SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE. But I GUARANTEE that most of the people talking it up in DC will retain their own personal physician. It's you and me that'll get stuck.

 

[Kritish]

I'm a state employee (therapist who provides free services to the indigent population) and I've seen the above State worker mentality hard at work. Believe me, that is not an entirely untrue stereotype. Also, here's your example:

So you're using your small bit of experience to judge the entire concept?

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

So you're using your small bit of experience to judge the entire concept?

Fifteen years, five agencies and thousands of clients trumps your mommy's basement and CNN any day.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Hmmm....a few thoughts:

• Kill the "No Child Allowed To Excel" program and get teachers back to actually teaching our kids rather than preparing them to regurgitate competency exam answers. Special attention to math, sciences, English and music and art programs. We are falling behind the rest of the world when it comes to preparing our kids for success, thereby endangering our own future as a nation.
• Map out a proper, realistic exit strategy for Iraq with the help of people who actually understand the culture and environment there and in the rest of the Middle East so as to minimize negative impact and make the most of the situation overall.
• Kill all the lobbyists. Corporate America runs our government right now and that has to end. They aren't serving the public's best interests. They're serving their own.
• Economic reform that takes the middle and lower economic classes into consideration. The wealth in this country needs to start being redistributed back out to them.
• Legalize marijuana and regulate and tax it just like tobacco and alcohol. I'm not a pot smoker or even a real advocate, but we've wasted far too many dollars on the "War On Pot" and convicted way too many young people for a drug no more evil than alcohol it on the "three strikes" laws, which have overcrowded our jails and prisons even more than they are.
• Prison reform. Far too many luxuries like cable television, gaming systems, specialty food menus, internet and computer access, etc. have been afforded to them. Prison shouldn't be a place people want to go to, which is not the case currently for many people. The people in prisons should be made to work hard, get an opportunity to educate and reform themselves and pay their debt to society. It shouldn't be a glorified dorm or country club.
• Repair our foreign relations policies. Our government has acted like complete jackasses for the past eight years, where the rest of the world is concerned. We have a big public image problem with our peers that needs some serious attention through diplomacy and a bit of humility. We aren't the world's police, though there are instances where it makes sense for us to provide help, such as in Darfur, not for political or economic gain but because it's the right thing to do for humanity.
• Focus on problems at home. We have problems with mid to high level jobs being offshored en masse. That has to stop. We have homelessness, drug problems of epidemic proportions with crack and meth, education system issues, race and economic class issues, and so forth. Instead of being the world's police each and every chance we get, these things need to be addressed.
• Fix the budget. We went from the largest economic surplus in history to the worst deficit we've ever seen in a little over two years when Bush entered office. We must start addressing this debt immediately.
• Restructure social security so that it will be truly viable for the future.
• Health care reform. Costs for insurance coverage and deductibles, medical care and prescription drugs are astronomically high, and for no real reason other than the folks running the show can get away with it. Something has to change to make medical care and prescription medications more accessible to the American population. I don't know that socialized medicine is the solution, but a task force to investigate the situation and come up with some solutions needs to be formed
• Protection of our citizen's civil liberties and free speech. No more wire tapping schemes. No more NSA Carnivore programs. No more camera systems all over Manhattan. No more squashing people's political views just because the differ from mine. Everyone should have their say in this country, even if they are wrong.

In short, let's fix this place!

jag

Well I'm not a 100% in agreemnt on the prison thing, but I am partially in agreement on some of that, and other than that, I'd say it's a pretty good platform.

Jag for President!

 

[SuperFerret]

The "Everyone is a stinking corrupt liar but me" platform. Yeah, I know, been there, done that, but I'd mean it.









And then when I'm in office... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[PhotoJones]

My platform would be representation, straight up.

 

[sinewave]

[Kang]Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others![/Kang]

 

[Kritish]

Fifteen years, five agencies and thousands of clients trumps your mommy's basement and CNN any day.

I'm a manager of a store you idiot.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Display the massive speek abilities I have em.

I mean that's how Bush got elected, why can't it work for me?

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

I'm a manager of a store you idiot.

Your mommy has a store in her basement?

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

End the war.

 

[Speedball]

I would call for war on the Venusians. They're ten times worse than those damn Martians. I would also be an advocate for Human/Robot marriage.

 

[mrsparkle]

Drinking age : 14
Smoking ciggarettes: banned
Smoking cannabis: legalised
Age of consent:14

 

[jaguarr]

Drinking age : 14
Smoking ciggarettes: banned
Smoking cannabis: legalised
Age of consent:14

So, basically you want to be able to get stoned and molest children without that whole "law" thing getting in the way. Got it.

jag

 

[bored]

I only agree with two of Mrsparkle's platforms. The younger people are when they can drink and smoke, the more cake they shall eat. Thus, we are allies.

 

[Carcharodon]

"For The Win!"

 

[EdRyder]

I like jags platform.However-Its much too radical for the majority of the population.Somehow I can imagine his candidacy ending with Kevin Costner pointing to some footage and repeating the words,..'back and to the left'

 

[EdRyder]

We need to revamp our policies concerning Child Advocacy.Its something that has been ignored for far too long.
Its been the premise in this country that the child's best interest is always to be returned to either parent.
Regardless of environment or level of abuse.
We return these children to the 'Parents" under the IDEA of "Whats in the childs best interest."=Its time to step up and REALLY do whats in the childs best interest
A great deal of that mess can be attributed to the outdated foster care system.We need to create a greater financial incentive for eligible couples to take these children.And an even greater incentive for retired seniors to participate as well.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Its been the premise in this country that the child's best interest is always to be returned to either parent.
Regardless of environment or level of abuse.
We return these children to the 'Parents" under the IDEA of "Whats in the childs best interest."=Its time to step up and REALLY do whats in the childs best interest

Dude... that is soooo true. I can tell you stories about Judges doing that which would make your hair stand on end. ugh.