For Political Lovers: If you were to run for president what would be your platform?

[Sandman138]

The days of small governments are long gone, a small government can't survive in modern society.

That is the biggest load of **** I've ever heard.

 

[sinewave]

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis

thanks, but my lazy ass was looking for an easy breakdown of the information i requested. i'll look around and see if i can find what i'm looking for in a more easily digestible format.

i do have another question for you though. were you for or against the raise in minimum wage that was just put into effect?

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

I hate to break it to you but there's a big difference between wanted illegal immigration stopped and wanted the government to commit war crimes.

That's nice, while we're the UN will label us a rogue nation and we'll face sanctions like with South Africa. You to scare me.

Wake up and smell the coffee fascist, we're not even allowed to use mines in combat might as less against refugees.

Oh and Mysterio, work on your grammar so people don't realize you're white trash.

SWEET IRONY!!

 

[Kritish]

not at all. there isn't a single thing i've said that is either ridiculous or outrageous.

Really? What about the fact that you want the southern boarder turned into a mine field? Either you're beyond help or you're just looking for attention.

That is the biggest load of **** I've ever heard.

Dude, small government might have worked a hundred years ago but cute little state's rights activists are living in a fantasy land if they think that it'll work today.

 

[EdRyder]

I agree to an extent-I remember when McCain touted that same rhetoric about 'The jobs Americans wont do ,even if you pay them $50 an hour"

Uh,..I'd mine a volcano for Fifty dollars an hour.

The heart of the Immigration argument(to me) -Since time in memorial immigrants have been able to come to America and within 1 generation-be able to live the American dream.For example-[An old Greek immigrant who comes here, opens a Diner and puts his son through school-the son grows up and becomes a Senator./]
Now with 'Amnesty' ,or 'Immigration Reform',You wont see that happen until a 2nd or third generation.
I feel Americas corporate interests are blatantly trying to take advantage of cheap labor via the 'promise' of America

 

[jaguarr]

I feel Americas corporate interests are blatantly trying to take advantage of cheap labor via the 'promise' of America

There's some truth in that but the real jobs we should be freaking out about losing are the one's they're sending off shore en masse. THOSE are the jobs that have significant salaries, core knowledge, research and development related intellectual property and career paths attached to them. And our government has helped them do it like it's going out of style, too.

jag

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

Yes, Ed, the big business guys (a bi-partisan group) ALWAYS reap the benifits of cheap labor... if not, we'd have seen our southern border closed years ago.

The discomfort with the current wave of immagration is the "in your face" "we ain't acclimating, YOU acclimate to us" garbage that, quite frankly, our predecessors (who had ACTUAL backbones and not facsimilies) would not have put up with.
My great-grandfather came here from Germany and never learned English. ALL of his children did, though because, thank God, bilingual enabling...er...education didn't exist.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

There's some truth in that but the real jobs we should be freaking out about losing are the one's they're sending off shore en masse. THOSE are the jobs that have significant salaries, core knowledge, research and development related intellectual property and career paths attached to them. And our government has helped them do it like it's going out of style, too.

jag

So true and so...bizarre a course for our gov't.

 

[EdRyder]

I apologize for sounding stupid here in advance-
First-I cant think of any aspect of R&D that has been outsourced(If you can baby walk me through that please)
And 2nd-To my knowledge ,thats all we have any more is intellectual property right?The entire entertainment industry from films to music to video games...
I thought the problem is that we dont MAKE anything anymore like ,Furniture, Appliances ,etc???

 

[jaguarr]

I apologize for sounding stupid here in advance-
First-I cant think of any aspect of R&D that has been outsourced(If you can baby walk me through that please)
And 2nd-To my knowledge ,thats all we have any more is intellectual property right?The entire entertainment industry from films to music to video games...
I thought the problem is that we dont MAKE anything anymore like ,Furniture, Appliances ,etc???

Oh, no. We've totally outsourced a ton of our engineering. A lot of our major electronics and computer peripheral manufacturers have done it. They'll draw up the product specs and then ship the whole project offshore to India or China where engineers there figure out how to accomplish what's in the specs. And, in the meantime, they're privvy to all of our IP. Sure, you can write all the contractual provisions you want that says the IP belongs to the company doing the outsourcing, etc. but at the end of the day our IP still walks out the door and gets reverse engineered into other products in foreign markets. This is especially true in China. A lot of big companies famous for their engineering have turned into nothing but giant houses of program and project managers. I handle outsourced suppliers in the tech arena for a living. I see this stuff every single day.

jag

 

[Ghostvirus]

I would be on the Chaos platform. I would attempt to kill big business. Make people start living for themselves like in the early 1900's, & back. Tone down technology. Make it so companies can only bring out so many new products in a certain span of time. Also price cap it as well. Also the product to be at least 75% workable. Any recalls will result in a company evaluation.

Some form of Universal health care would be initiated. The fact that people get denied treatment, can't afford their medicine, or can't work a good job because there medical will cut. Is just sickening. Everyone deserves medical.

I would tax the rich more than they poor. Only until they have broken even for all the years the rich have gotten tax breaks, while the poor didn't.

If A 9/11 happened on my watch. There would be no country to fight. I would hold the entire country responsible for there actions, & turn it into a parking lot. We supposedly have the greatest army in the world, but yet we hold back. I say if you fight...YOU FIGHT!

If you move your company to Mexico to save money. Your imports will be cut off. Find another country to mooch off of.

I'm Out.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The problems discussed concerning farm labor are actually being solved quite another way. California growers are financing the development of machines to do the picking instead. In an article I read a few months ago, possibly on Wired or Slashdot, it said that machines were already doing some of the picking in Europe. Switching to machines has always meant that costs drop.

On the subject of illegal immigration a few statistics.

1. The State of California is spending approx. $500 million a year on the illegals in California prisons.

2. The costs of illegals in California to the State and Federal governments were recently revealed to be about $20 billion annually.

3. The official figures alone place the percentage of illegals in California at 23% of the states populace.

 

[Mysterio]

Actually, I don't think very many Americans would do that kind of back breaking work for $10 an hour. Especially the ones already getting a sweet ride on welfare and unemployment. And, the ones that would really be need to do the work in order to make this plan of yours successful live largely in the cities and nowhere near the fields where the work is.

ok, let's debunk these grossly exaggerated assumptions. first of all, many americans would do that work for $8 and $10 an hour. how do i know? because they already are. for example, field technicians in contract archaeology dig holes every day while surveying a project area. these are people who are college educated, have college degrees, and in many cases have graduate degrees. these technicians make roughly $8-$12/hour - and $12 is rare. there are also a number of people - including high school kids - picking blueberries in michigan every summer for pretty low wages just like my cousins did every summer they were in school. americans are already in these jobs.

welfare and unemployment... i have no idea why you brought people on welfare and unemployment into the discussion. many of those people don't have any desire to work at all regardless of the jobs and wages available. people who want to work, do work. i don't know why you would think that the only people available to fill the illegal immigrant labor pool would be welfare recipients.

as for the "large cities" / "nowhere near the fields" comment...you simply don't know what you're talking about. agricultural fields and industry aren't just in obscure, hard to reach rural areas. since strawberries was used as an example earlier, let's stick with that. here in the tampa bay area is a town called plant city. it's about 20 minutes outside of the tampa city limits. plant city is the nation's largest producer of wintertime strawberries and one of the largest producers for the other three seasons. you can't imagine the density of citrus groves within an hour radius of tampa, orlando, miami, etc. the same is true in california, one of the largest (if not the largest) agricultural states in the nation. if people want to work, they'll go where the jobs are. i've moved a few times for jobs. work didn't come to me; i went to it. if people want to work, they'll go where the work is.

And if you increase the costs of goods by five times what they currently are, which is what they'd have to do to cover the margins if they were paying $10/hour, your market will significantly shrink. Possibly and perhaps even probably to the point that you will not be able to stay in business any longer. I like your well thought out counterpoint of "industry will find ways to compensate other than solely raising prices or pricing themselves out of business". So, what efficiency and process gains would they make that they already haven't that would allow them to keep from having to raise prices up to a point where the average consumer can't or won't buy their produce or products? This is already a low margin, high volume business we're talking about. They're driven to efficiencies already by necessity. It's naive to say that industry will just "find a way".

as if yours is well thought out. you're just pulling these unfounded assumptions out of thin air - such as "five times what they currently are." look at gas: the price has gone up, but so has demand. even when gas was hovering around $3/gallon. at some point, gas (or strawberries) will reach a point where consumer demand drops. at that point, supply increases and prices come down. markets - oil and strawberries - are not going to collapse. you seem to believe that everyone should be able to buy strawberries (or whatever other good) if they want to. and yes, industry does adapt to cut costs and to increase profit margin. it happens every day in companies and businesses all across the country. you are also discounting marketplace competition. some companies or farmers can offer their wares at lower prices than others. some people will recognize market opportunity for locally grown or produced goods. there isn't going to be one flat wage in any industry that affects every business regardless of size or scale of operation.

So, yes, you got rid of the notion that American's won't do these jobs by proposing to pay them $10-25/hr which probably isn't enough to lure them in sufficient numbers to sustain an industry on the low end of your proposed salary range and completely unable to keep an industry going in the marketplace in either instance or anywhere in between.

no, i wasn't proposing paying them $10-25/hr. it was a hypothetical wage presented that led you to retract "americans won't do these jobs" and to agree that americans will do the jobs if the pay is good.

 

[Mysterio]

Really? What about the fact that you want the southern boarder turned into a mine field? Either you're beyond help or you're just looking for attention.

once again, i challenge you to show me where i ever said that. perhaps someday you'll be able to have an intellectually honest discussion without trying to put words in people's mouths, create strawmen, or lump many people's independent opinions together.

 

[Mysterio]

There's some truth in that but the real jobs we should be freaking out about losing are the one's they're sending off shore en masse. THOSE are the jobs that have significant salaries, core knowledge, research and development related intellectual property and career paths attached to them. And our government has helped them do it like it's going out of style, too.

we should turn the nation into a tax haven like ireland and the netherlands. give business a reason to stay stateside.

www.fairtax.org

 

[Mysterio]

I apologize for sounding stupid here in advance-
First-I cant think of any aspect of R&D that has been outsourced(If you can baby walk me through that please)
And 2nd-To my knowledge ,thats all we have any more is intellectual property right?The entire entertainment industry from films to music to video games...
I thought the problem is that we dont MAKE anything anymore like ,Furniture, Appliances ,etc???

there are plenty of manufacturing plants and manufacturing jobs in america.

 

[Matt]

I would be on the Chaos platform. I would attempt to kill big business. Make people start living for themselves like in the early 1900's, & back. Tone down technology. Make it so companies can only bring out so many new products in a certain span of time. Also price cap it as well. Also the product to be at least 75% workable. Any recalls will result in a company evaluation.

Some form of Universal health care would be initiated. The fact that people get denied treatment, can't afford their medicine, or can't work a good job because there medical will cut. Is just sickening. Everyone deserves medical.

I would tax the rich more than they poor. Only until they have broken even for all the years the rich have gotten tax breaks, while the poor didn't.

If A 9/11 happened on my watch. There would be no country to fight. I would hold the entire country responsible for there actions, & turn it into a parking lot. We supposedly have the greatest army in the world, but yet we hold back. I say if you fight...YOU FIGHT!

If you move your company to Mexico to save money. Your imports will be cut off. Find another country to mooch off of.

I'm Out.

so you'd pretty much turn us into the new Soviet Union?

 

[Mysterio]

so you'd pretty much turn us into the new Soviet Union?

sounds like it. don't know where he gets the idea that the poor pay taxes... unless he's using the new (laughable) poverty figures.

"46 percent of people defined as 'living in poverty' by our government actually own their own homes .. and the average home owned by a person 'living in poverty' is a three-bedroom house with one-and-one-half baths, a garage and a porch or patio. And in that garage you'll find a car; in 31 percent of 'poor' households you'll find two. You tell someone living in South America that this is how we define poverty and they'll laugh you right into next week."

"In the United States you can have $10 million in a checking account, own a $10 million house with a seven-car garage free and clear, have a Rolls Royce for every day of the week, own a $42 million Gulfstream V, have a $15 million penthouse on Park Avenue, and another $5 million walking-around money in your pocket and still be officially designated by the Imperial Federal Government of the United States as 'living in poverty.' Why? Because in determining who is poor and who is not poor in the U.S., our government only counts income, it does not count accumulated wealth. When you quit working you quit having an income (unless you have investment income). When you quit having income, you're poor."

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

 

[jaguarr]

ok, let's debunk these grossly exaggerated assumptions. first of all, many americans would do that work for $8 and $10 an hour. how do i know? because they already are. for example, field technicians in contract archaeology dig holes every day while surveying a project area. these are people who are college educated, have college degrees, and in many cases have graduate degrees. these technicians make roughly $8-$12/hour - and $12 is rare. there are also a number of people - including high school kids - picking blueberries in michigan every summer for pretty low wages just like my cousins did every summer they were in school. americans are already in these jobs.

Wait. Did you just equate people working in archeology digs to people picking strawberries? That doesn't even make sense. There's a big difference between college and graduate students or people out of school working in a scientific endeavor because they have a passion for it and are willing to get paid lower wages in order to pad their resume's, get experience in their field, and work with better known scholars in their field and people (like kids on a summer job) working in an agricultural field for low pay. You can't even compare the two. And you still have to make the pay enticing enough to people that they'll want to do it. If they can do less strenuous, physically demanding work for the same or even slightly lower pay, they will. Especially if they live in the city, nowhere near the agricultural bases which would make those jobs unavailable to them or require a heavy commute (which costs money to do).

welfare and unemployment... i have no idea why you brought people on welfare and unemployment into the discussion. many of those people don't have any desire to work at all regardless of the jobs and wages available. people who want to work, do work. i don't know why you would think that the only people available to fill the illegal immigrant labor pool would be welfare recipients.

I brought it up because you need resources to do this work that's currently being done by migrant and illegal workers in order for your plan to work. Who do you think is going to do it? People who already have jobs that pay basically the same money for less back-breaking work? Not likely. That means being able to attract the unemployed.

as for the "large cities" / "nowhere near the fields" comment...you simply don't know what you're talking about. agricultural fields and industry aren't just in obscure, hard to reach rural areas.

Are you telling me that if I live in the middle of New York City, I can just go get a job picking strawberries, no problem? I don't think so. The commute (and it's related cost) would be highly prohibitive. Prove me wrong.

since strawberries was used as an example earlier, let's stick with that. here in the tampa bay area is a town called plant city. it's about 20 minutes outside of the tampa city limits. plant city is the nation's largest producer of wintertime strawberries and one of the largest producers for the other three seasons. you can't imagine the density of citrus groves within an hour radius of tampa, orlando, miami, etc. the same is true in california, one of the largest (if not the largest) agricultural states in the nation. if people want to work, they'll go where the jobs are. i've moved a few times for jobs. work didn't come to me; i went to it. if people want to work, they'll go where the work is.

Most people who need work this badly can't AFFORD to move, man. They have little to nothing as it is. The welfare and unemployment systems make it far easier for them to just stay on it where they are living than to pack up and move when they don't even have money to do that.

as if yours is well thought out. you're just pulling these unfounded assumptions out of thin air - such as "five times what they currently are."

Ummm....if the strawberry farmer is paying a migrant worker $2 an hour to do something that he suddenly now has to pay an American $10 an hour to do, that is five times the current cost that he will have to pass on to consumers. That's not pulling something unfounded out of thin air, it's math.

look at gas: the price has gone up, but so has demand. even when gas was hovering around $3/gallon. at some point, gas (or strawberries) will reach a point where consumer demand drops. at that point, supply increases and prices come down. markets - oil and strawberries - are not going to collapse.

Gas is a necessity. Strawberries are not. Other types of produce, not so much. Produce will quickly become a "nice to have" or the cost of food will become horribly prohibitive and it will send the economy into the crapper.

you seem to believe that everyone should be able to buy strawberries (or whatever other good) if they want to.

We are talking about FOOD. Everyone SHOULD be able to afford food. Do you disagree with this?

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and yes, industry does adapt to cut costs and to increase profit margin. it happens every day in companies and businesses all across the country.[/quote]

I already asked you once, but you fell back on your "industry just adapts" excuse, so I'll ask you again: What process and supply chain improvements would you propose the agricultural industry make that they already haven't since they already have had to do so in such a low margin/high volume industry? The things you keep squawking tell me you don't understand the business you are so bent on destroying from an economic standpoint.

you are also discounting marketplace competition. some companies or farmers can offer their wares at lower prices than others.

You know who will be able to offer their wares at lower prices than American growers? Growers from Mexico and other countries.

some people will recognize market opportunity for locally grown or produced goods. there isn't going to be one flat wage in any industry that affects every business regardless of size or scale of operation.

You really don't understand the basic principles of the cost of doing business and how it impacts the overall economy, do you?

no, i wasn't proposing paying them $10-25/hr. it was a hypothetical wage presented that led you to retract "americans won't do these jobs" and to agree that americans will do the jobs if the pay is good.

And in the process you completely missed the point that raising wages so far above what the current pay rates are sufficiently enough that these businesses can staff with American workers rather than migrant and illegal ones will so negatively impact those businesses in the marketplace that a huge number of them will go out of business which will in turn have negative impacts on the economy and leave those American workers without a job, anyway.

jag

 

[sinewave]

just pack it in, mysterio. you're only making yourself look more and more foolish with each post.

 

[Mysterio]

Wait. Did you just equate people working in archeology digs to people picking strawberries? That doesn't even make sense. There's a big difference between college and graduate students or people out of school working in a scientific endeavor because they have a passion for it and are willing to get paid lower wages in order to pad their resume's, get experience in their field, and work with better known scholars in their field and people (like kids on a summer job) working in an agricultural field for low pay. You can't even compare the two. And you still have to make the pay enticing enough to people that they'll want to do it. If they can do less strenuous, physically demanding work for the same or even slightly lower pay, they will. Especially if they live in the city, nowhere near the agricultural bases which would make those jobs unavailable to them or require a heavy commute (which costs money to do).

yes, i did compare the two. contract archaeology, cultural resource management - my career and my field - isn't about these romantic ideals of digs that people get from the movies or tv or padding a resume to work for some renowned scholar. nor is it the scientific endeavor - at least not on the scale you think it is. field technicians aren't padding their resumes. in essence, they're glorified ditch diggers. you're confusing CRM with the realm of academics. contract archaeology is a lot of digging in similar conditions - and worse conditions - than working in some cultivated field. it's menial labor for fairly low wages and the employees are more skilled and better educated and being paid those low wages.

"And you still have to make the pay enticing enough to people that they'll want to do it."

which has been my point from the start and which completely debunks "americans won't do these jobs." at least you've come around to that.

I brought it up because you need resources to do this work that's currently being done by migrant and illegal workers in order for your plan to work. Who do you think is going to do it? People who already have jobs that pay basically the same money for less back-breaking work? Not likely. That means being able to attract the unemployed.

yes, you do need resources, but those resources aren't going to come from the pool of welfare recipients who are content to live off the government tit. there are already jobs out there for those people to get if they had any will to do so. if unskilled high school students can get jobs (and they do), many of those welfare recipients can as well.

Are you telling me that if I live in the middle of New York City, I can just go get a job picking strawberries, no problem? I don't think so. The commute (and it's related cost) would be highly prohibitive. Prove me wrong.

no, i never said that at all. i never said anything about living in the middle of NYC and having a strawberry picking job. i demonstrated real examples of metropolitan areas surrounded by a dense agriculture industry. as for highly prohibitive...that's where adaptation comes in. you carpool, you choose to move closer to work, you make sacrifices in your budget, you eat out less or cut down on movie rentals, or you get a new line of work. you surely don't expect everything to be handed to you, do you?

Most people who need work this badly can't AFFORD to move, man. They have little to nothing as it is. The welfare and unemployment systems make it far easier for them to just stay on it where they are living than to pack up and move when they don't even have money to do that.

and yet, people do it all of the time, every day, all over this country. you need to get off this welfare and unemployment angle because it is completely irrelevant.

Ummm....if the strawberry farmer is paying a migrant worker $2 an hour to do something that he suddenly now has to pay an American $10 an hour to do, that is five times the current cost that he will have to pass on to consumers. That's not pulling something unfounded out of thin air, it's math.

again, the $10 was a hypothetical wage for an example. in the real world, you have no idea what the cost would be nor do you take into account ways that the business would offset those wage costs. if wages increase fivefold, the cost of the good in the marketplace does not increase fivefold. that's not how it works.

Gas is a necessity. Strawberries are not. Other types of produce, not so much. Produce will quickly become a "nice to have" or the cost of food will become horribly prohibitive and it will send the economy into the crapper.

gas is not a necessity, it's a commodity. you can change your buying and behavioral habits to eliminate or reduce gas usage to work within your budget. that's nonsense to say it's a necessity.

We are talking about FOOD. Everyone SHOULD be able to afford food. Do you disagree with this?

we were talking about one specific food: strawberries. no one said anything about people not being able to afford food. maybe you think strawberries and produce are the only foodstuffs? regardless, the market takes care of itself. people would find other avenues for getting those goods and doing so within their budget. maybe that means more trips to the local farmers market or grove, maybe that means more farmers markets spring up. maybe that means growing it themselves. the entire produce industry would not collapse. it's not all big giant conglomerate farming nor is it all smalltime farmers.

I already asked you once, but you fell back on your "industry just adapts" excuse, so I'll ask you again: What process and supply chain improvements would you propose the agricultural industry make that they already haven't since they already have had to do so in such a low margin/high volume industry? The things you keep squawking tell me you don't understand the business you are so bent on destroying from an economic standpoint.

a nice diversion tactic. i can't give you any specific changes the industry can make since i'm speaking of the generalities of industry, business, and economics and i'm not an insider of that industry. do i believe improvements can be made and that business will adapt? absolutely. do you believe that all adaptive technology or supply chain improvements in every industry has already been created and that no more will ever be created? do you think that nothing in existence can be improved upon?

You know who will be able to offer their wares at lower prices than American growers? Growers from Mexico and other countries.

that depends on tariffs, doesn't it?

You really don't understand the basic principles of the cost of doing business and how it impacts the overall economy, do you?

yes, i do. unfortunately, you don't understand basic economic principles and you're not a believer in the market economy. you've made that clear with your platforms and with your indignation that some people might not be able to afford a good.

And in the process you completely missed the point that raising wages so far above what the current pay rates are sufficiently enough that these businesses can staff with American workers rather than migrant and illegal ones will so negatively impact those businesses in the marketplace that a huge number of them will go out of business which will in turn have negative impacts on the economy and leave those American workers without a job, anyway.

i haven't ignored that at all. i think you are grossly overstating and overestimating the economic impact. you keep ignoring that businesses will find ways to cut costs if they want to survive. the prices of goods would not skyrocket like you believe they would.

 

[jaguarr]

*sigh* This is going nowhere and I really don't have the time or inclination to go around and around with you, dude. You enjoy your views, I'll enjoy mine. I have a pretty strong suspicion which one will be closer to the reality we will be living in at the end of the day, anyway.

jag

 

[Mysterio]

ok, jag...came across this bit in an op/ed and wondered what your response would be:

"When employers hire illegal workers at a cut rate, they pass onto taxpayers the cost of health care and other government services used by workers and their families. I can't help but see the business lobby's support of guest-worker programs as anything but an attempt to get working people to subsidize cheapskate corporations so they can sell their products at bargain prices and make bigger profits."

by defending the use of illegal labor, you are defending a bugaboo of the left: sleazy, dirty corporations who are only concerned with profits/profit margin.

 

[Matt]

*sigh* This is going nowhere and I really don't have the time or inclination to go around and around with you, dude. You enjoy your views, I'll enjoy mine. I have a pretty strong suspicion which one will be closer to the reality we will be living in at the end of the day, anyway.

jag

Which begs the question, why do you continue to humor Mysterio...when I pretty much stated everything that is needed to make this country perfect on Page 7? All arguing should've stopped and all should've just bowed before me. Lets try again.

My fellow Americans: If I, Matt, were president, I would serve the country I love by making things better, not worse.

For instance health insurance. I believe every American should have health insurance, so I would write a law giving it to them - then I'd sign it right away. I also don't think people should have to struggle to make ends meat, so I would fix the economy.

Now, it's no secret that the Israel/Palestine conflict has been going on for months, I would get them together and let them talk. Why hasn't anyone done that yet? Sometimes, the simplest solution is the best one.

Also, the president is the nation's moral leader. I don't really know how I'd play this one.

If I were president, I would end unfair taxation on tax people already pay. It's called double taxation and it's totally unfair. Right now, Uncle Sam collects 35 cents on every dollar I make. I'd change the law so I could write that off, and only pay tax on the remaining 65 cents I make. At thirty-five percent rate, that would leave me with 42 cents.

Well, actually, that's less. I worked this out the other day...can I get back to you on the tax thing?

And what's the Department of Labor for? Here's a shocking fact I once heard, no one knows! If I were president, it would be gone. Unless there's something I'm not seeing here.

Also, I would order the immediate death of Roger Simpson. The one who lives at 1310 North Seventh Ave., Apt 12A, Oroville, CA. He knows why.

Okay. That about does it. Oh, one more thing. In the Matt Administration, Air Force One would officially be renamed Air Force Fun.

I feel very strongly about this.

 

[jaguarr]

Which begs the question, why do you continue to humor Mysterio...when I pretty much stated everything that is needed to make this country perfect on Page 7? All arguing should've stopped and all should've just bowed before me. Lets try again.

We need a :STFUMatt: smiley.

jag