Fox's Own Superheroes: A Daring Duo at the Studio

[PowersOfMind]

I thought using the bridge was a perfect terrorist move. To take something that's an icon and use it against the humans The point was to show the world that mutants were a force to be reckoned with. Plus he wouldnt have been able to make Jean do anything, unless she wanted to or she felt threatened. She established that he could not order her around when they were in the woods.

 

[J.Howlett]

True, the Bridge incident is just a diminstration, a terrorist one at that. But, the ultimate end goal was to destroy the cure and the mutant from which the cure comes from.

Dropping the bridge on the entire island would've taken care of that.

 

[PowersOfMind]

The up close and personal approach is better. Mags wanted his people to personally handle the situation.

 

[J.Howlett]

The up close personal approach is better but there should've been a different set of circumstances that got us to that approach.

With the Bridge, it just feels somewhat tacked on.

And while we're at it, why did the lab facility have to be on Alcatraz in the first place? That's the real dumb aspect of the final act.

 

[fallenAngel]

I agree with that. I think they just wanted to use a historical landmark. Sort of the anti statue of liberty. Since alcatraz represents imprisonment.

The only part about the bridge i don't understand it why he connected it to the main land, did he want more back up troops to easily get there, or to have a viable escape route in case things went ill. as they did.

 

[J.Howlett]

Probably a little of both, fallen.

What should've happen was that the final battle should've taken place inland where the actual Lab/Business offices are held. It's more realistic that way.

Plus, you have the opportunity to have everyday people caught in the middle of the battle. With the X-Men coming in to fight, it reveals the X-Men to the public and what they're ultimate goal is with this race war....it gives the humans hope that not all mutants are like Magneto....

 

[Obsidian]

The up close and personal approach is better. Mags wanted his people to personally handle the situation.

yeah..it's great how he let the first wave of mutants become "pawns"...tactically, he could've done better..alot better than using the bridge, then swarming the building to get to the boy to kill him

 

[MoviesKickAss]

It's more realistic that way

Since when did FOX start thinking realistically or cared to bother for that matter

 

[J.Howlett]

^Bingo. So sad to see what's happened to X-Men....

 

[lordofthenerds]

Since when did FOX start thinking realistically or cared to bother for that matter

Exactly. I doubt if Fox ever talked about the ideas that people have been talking about on this thread. They probably just said "Magneto destoys the GG bridge? That's cool!" or something like that.

 

[TrailerMusic]

Rothman - "Lets have Magneto destroy some kind of land mark"
Ratner - "Yes"
James - "How does he get there"
Rothman - "Hes Magneto no explination needed"
Ratner - "Yes"
Rothman - "Lets give Rogue a cameo sized role"
Ratner - "Yes"
James - "What about my Character"
Rothman - 'You die & your fired afterwards"
Ratner - "Yes"

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

-grits his teeth- I hate you Rothman. you make me wanna blast your ass...You're FIRED!! haha... .. -slaps forehead- gah Whos the more foolish, the one who blasts him or the fool who follows him? I'd blast his ass any day.

 

[fallenAngel]

Rothman - "Lets have Magneto destroy some kind of land mark"
Ratner - "Yes"
James - "How does he get there"
Rothman - "Hes Magneto no explination needed"
Ratner - "Yes"
Rothman - "Lets give Rogue a cameo sized role"
Ratner - "Yes"
James - "What about my Character"
Rothman - 'You die & your fired afterwards"
Ratner - "Yes"

Ratner - yes.

Lol.

 

[Retroman]

Very informative article. Thanks narrows.

 

[TheVileOne]

Sony had Raimi, Maguire, and Dunst locked up for Spider-man 3 before Spider-man 2 came out. That's efficient planning.

The article was a good fluff piece that looks like it was designed to take away attention from how horrible the dropoffs for this movie are.

It got beat in its second weekend by a chick flick that was savaged by the critics.

 

[MoviesKickAss]

It got beat in its second weekend by a chick flick that was savaged by the critics.

The Da Vinci Code also got savaged by the critics & that made money. Combine this fact & with that pretty much shows that People are slowly learning to think **** the critics

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Well, i hate Fox and Rothman even more after this article, it just shows how much they screwed around with this franchise and how they are not going to take responsibility for ****ing around with Singer instead of getting him signed up as soon as X2 was a success.

And, people, dont be so ****ing short minded by thinking that people hated Ratner and what happened to Cyclops from the start so they were automatically gonna hate the movie. If the movie was good enough to make us forget about these things we wouldnt have had a problem, but it was ****, there have been plenty of movies in the past that have proved me wrong when i thought they were gonna be garbage, but X3 wasnt one of them.

 

[CapBeerCino]

The Da Vinci Code also got savaged by the critics & that made money. Combine this fact & with that pretty much shows that People are slowly learning to think **** the critics

With some movies the hype is enough to get people going, the Da Vinci Code is an example of that. A lot of people on talkbacks hated it and gave it a low rate, yet after reading the book people wanted to watch it even after the bad reviews. So far ice age 2 made more money than tDC I'm sure no one saw it coming so something did hurt the movie. The critics or bad word of mouth.
To think that after all the hype (even the vatican was giving the movie headlines) people won't watch it because the critics say so is unrealistic, but the bad buzz wasn't doing the movie any good.

 

[danoyse]

It got beat in its second weekend by a chick flick that was savaged by the critics.

Hey wait...I thought you loved "The Breakup"?!

I agree about Sony. Fox should have had these people signed on for 3 movies right from the start. They clearly didn't want to fork over the cash to bring back that entire cast and creative team (which was going to cost them a fortune after the success of the first 2) and make a huge 3rd film.

Now they're patting themselves on the back for all the power they have. No wonder no one wants to work with them.

And I did like the movie. But it could have been so much bigger.

 

[danoyse]

And while we're at it, why did the lab facility have to be on Alcatraz in the first place? That's the real dumb aspect of the final act.

Then again, so was the idea that every world leader was meeting on Ellis Island at the same time in the first movie, and everyone was still able to break into the Statue of Liberty.

Some of that stuff you just have to let go of in superhero movies.

 

[liamoversion2]

Then again, so was the idea that every world leader was meeting on Ellis Island at the same time in the first movie, and everyone was still able to break into the Statue of Liberty.

Some of that stuff you just have to let go of in superhero movies.

Yeah. But not a great argument there! I think audiences would have no problem with that fact... I mean, it's Magneto anyway. Why wouldn't he be able to break in? And we were shown sevral scenes where the gaurds were taken out... presumably there were several more. And who's to say they didn't just slip on the security for the ellis island convention? that kind of thing happens all the time.

 

[danoyse]

Yeah. But not a great argument there! I think audiences would have no problem with that fact... I mean, it's Magneto anyway. Why wouldn't he be able to break in? And we were shown sevral scenes where the gaurds were taken out... presumably there were several more. And who's to say they didn't just slip on the security for the ellis island convention? that kind of thing happens all the time.

I'm from NY, and I watched it with a friend who's father and brother are in the NYPD, she was cracking up at how easy it was. Not to mention how the X-Men arrived at the crown of the Statue and weren't utterly out of breath from all those stairs (I've been on enough school field trips there to know what a climb that is).

But we love the movie, we were just chuckling at some of it.

It's like how Superman lets bullets deflect off of him on the old TV show, but ducks when the guy throws the actual gun.

 

[PowersOfMind]

I'm from NY, and I watched it with a friend who's father and brother are in the NYPD, she was cracking up at how easy it was. Not to mention how the X-Men arrived at the crown of the Statue and weren't utterly out of breath from all those stairs (I've been on enough school field trips there to know what a climb that is).

But we love the movie, we were just chuckling at some of it.

It's like how Superman lets bullets deflect off of him on the old TV show, but ducks when the guy throws the actual gun.

You know I noticed that too. Those weird little things happen so often in movies though (remember in Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes, how Mark Walberg's little pod crash lands and he jumps out with out a scratch or wince)

 

[danoyse]

Or how Magento planned his entire "turn the world into mutants" scheme from the top of a statue on an island?! How was he even going to get away? Sabertooth fell on the boat!

But it's what you gotta love about these movies if you want to enjoy them.

We can blame Fox for a lot of things (and there are many things), but superhero storytelling is always fun to tease about.

 

[Carp Man]

This is indeed interesting. Let's face facts. Fox puts up the money, and can run their company any way they want. Does it **** the way they do business ? Deffently. Do they make money for their stockholders ? Deffently. Does Wal-Mart **** in the way they operate ? Of course. Do they make money ? No question. So. The comic book fan, and the company putting up the bucks, don't agree all the time. And the finished product is not what it could or should be. Bottom line rules, and if Fox turns out an inferior product, and the " general " public buys into it, and it makes money to line their greedy pockets, then everything is hunky dorey. You could call Fox the Wal-Mart of the film industry. They don't care who they step on, who they alianate, as long as they make a buck. And that is the bottom line in business. Make it on the cheep, make your money. Why I am guardley optomistic with all the changes for the FF movie. Is it to give us a better movie ? Or are they trying to save a buck ?