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[DoomsdayApex]

And what if their convictions are just as strong as yours? No amount of social pressure would change my views, for example.

 

[SuperFerret]

Who's talking views? We're talking behavior. You can't force people to believe something, but you can force them to do things.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Who's talking views? We're talking behavior. You can't force people to believe something, but you can force them to do things.

I think both are connected in some form.

Please, go on. How you force someone to do something?

 

[SuperFerret]

Why do you buy your groceries at supermarkets? Why are we using the internet now? Why do any of us do anything?

Social pressures on behavior.

 

[StorminNorman]

People won't do "right" unless forced to. I would support an effort banning these things because people are ****** enough that this will not fail.

It is in ones self interest to do the "right" thing naturally, you need no arbitrary government imposed check.

Now that does not at all mean that everyone will do the right thing. But those people that do the wrong thing face naturally occurring consequences for their actions.

 

[StorminNorman]

Why do you buy your groceries at supermarkets? Why are we using the internet now? Why do any of us do anything?

Social pressures on behavior.

Why do we buy our groceries from the supermarket? Because its the most convenient. Why I am on the internet, because I enjoy it.

It's not because I am expected, socially, to use a supermarket. It's not because I am expected, socially, to use the internet.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's not a matter of being expected to do so. You have to. This society we live in is not one of our making and we are forced to live in it.

And we either have different definitions of "right", or you're deluding yourself about what most people are when nobody's looking.

 

[StorminNorman]

It's not a matter of being expected to do so. You have to. This society we live in is not one of our making and we are forced to live in it.

And we either have different definitions of "right", or you're deluding yourself about what most people are when nobody's looking.

What? Who makes society besides the people that live in it?

People have it in them to act like ****s when no one is working. But it benefits them, with or without acknowledgement, to not do so. Those that understand that will succeed, those that don't will pay a price for not doing so.

That doesn't mean that you can't do wrong and still be successful. That is obviously not the case. Talent can overcome a lot of shortcomings. But the man who lives a good life will make more with his potential than someone who doesn't.

Again, there are organic benefits to doing right and consequences to doing wrong. You don't have to rely upon arbitrary social constructs. Especially when it is a judgement call.

Again, if I want to buy this product, and someone is willing to sell this product - who are you (or anybody else, including one with a badge) to say I can't? Where is the morality in that?

 

[SuperFerret]

Who am I to say you can't? If you're buying this stuff, I'm your better.

 

[StorminNorman]

Who am I to say you can't? If you're buying this stuff, I'm your better.

So the "betters" should dictate the actions of the "lessers"?

Interesting.

 

[SuperFerret]

That's life.

 

[StorminNorman]

Hardly. "Lessers" are allowed to do things "Superiors" disapprove of all the time.

Fan of Nietzsche?

 

[SuperFerret]

Not particularly.



This conversation is actually boring me quite a bit at this point.