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It's gonna be interesting seeing how they explain the effects of that, to say the least.
 
The thing I don't get is how did Walter still manage to destroy the other Universe if Peter never existed ? If peter never existed on both sides then Walter would have never crossed over
 
...So Peter never existed?

How does that work?

Other than that, they tied up the whole mystery about the machine and the First People pretty well.
 
they tied up the whole mystery about the machine and the First People pretty well.
Not really... because Walter sent the COMPONENTS back which still leaves the question...who CREATED the machine?
 
Here are a few questions answered. Kind of.

If Peter “Never Existed,” Wouldn’t That Mean No Feud Between the Walters, No Machine Activated, No 2026 Doomsday…? | In a word, no. “Walter and [William] Bell were always trying to find a way to cross over, even before the Peter [abduction] incident,” Pinkner reminds. “So things may have happened differently.”
What Was “Lost In Detroit,” As Future Peter Alluded To With Broyles? | “That’s not something the audience needs to understand just yet,” says Wyman. “It’s obviously something heavily emotional between them – that may or may not be the cause of Broyles losing an eye.”
Was Olivia In Fact the “Beloved Character” Spoiled To Be Dying In the Finale? (Or Was It Gene the Cow?) | “In the course of the episode, it was Olivia,” confirms Pinkner, noting that Gene had gone to that great dairy farm in the sky sometime between 2011 and 2026.
Is That It for Big Baddie Moreau? | Sadly, yes. Played by Dune‘s Brad Dourif, Moreau and his End of Dayers threat was simply the Case of the Week for Fringe Team ’26.
Have We Also Seen the Last Of Grown-Up Ella (Boardwalk Empire‘s Emily Meade)? | Yes, says Wyman — “for the time being.”
Did Fox Execs Have As Many Questions About Fringe‘s Latest Freaky Finale As I Did? | “Probably more!” Pinkner says with a laugh. “But everybody is asking the right questions – not questions of confusion but questions of intrigue, of being compelled. We always like it when it’s like that.” Adds Wyman: “We’ve gained a lot of trust over the years [when pitching ideas to the network]. They have now seen the way we operate, how we always have tent posts that we are moving toward and from.”
http://www.tvline.com/2011/05/fringe-season-3-finale-review-answers/

What an amazing finale. Some things answered, but a whole new crop of questions. It's going to be a long wait for September. :csad:
 
Not really... because Walter sent the COMPONENTS back which still leaves the question...who CREATED the machine?

Could it be one of those self-creating loop things? they're here because they were sent back from the future.... who got them cuz they were sent back from the future... etc?

****ing hell.... that was a insane ride... holy hell

WTF is going to happen next season? :wow:
 
Thats what Im thinking. Self fulfilling. Like a loop. Everything that happens in the past, present, and future are happening at the same time because everything that happens is destined to lead to the future that Peter was sent to.

The whole Peter never existed thing kind of throws what I posted above out the window though, but thats how I think time (travel) seems to work in the Fringe universe.

Lol, I dont know if that makes sense to anyone else but it kind of makes sense to me.
 
trying to copy Lost, but in LOST, they explained time really well
 
I was thinking they were copying LOST the entire time but serious, who cares? They are both shows created by JJ so just go with it. I just have no idea where they are going to go from here. Kinda upset that we won't see Moreau and the end of dayers again, they were awesome, all the older versions of the characters looked outstanding as well. I think it's safe to assume that Walter was in prison just for being Walter and I'm assuming it ended up somehow becoming common knowledge that he was the cause of the world quite literally falling apart. Wondering if there was actually a more singular event between now and 2026 that got him there though, kinda like how the accidental death of that girl got him in the loony bin. AHHH! I just can't stop thinking about all the possibilities now! Driving me crazy
 
trying to copy Lost, but in LOST, they explained time really well


How does adding time travel make it that they're copying lost? :whatever:

time travel is common in science fiction.

Plus both shows were made by JJ so ...

Also anyone catch the bottle of MacCutcheon whiskey on the LSD episode? there's a lost reference right there :P
 
How does adding time travel make it that they're copying lost? :whatever:

time travel is common in science fiction.

Plus both shows were made by JJ so ...

Also anyone catch the bottle of MacCutcheon whiskey on the LSD episode? there's a lost reference right there :P
also they refrenced lost in season two by showing the deleted scene from lost.
 
Didn't catch that one. what episode was it?

I also know they used a music track from lost in the pilot episode of Fringe. Although that was more likely because they hadn't decided on particular themes yet and they needed a pilot up in order to get greenlighted.
 
Could it be one of those self-creating loop things? they're here because they were sent back from the future.... who got them cuz they were sent back from the future... etc?

****ing hell.... that was a insane ride... holy hell

WTF is going to happen next season? :wow:

It's called an ontological paradox.

But yeah, this episode, holy crap. The final reveal elicited a, "WHAT!" from me.
 
Freaky episode I understood almost everything except how Peter couldn't exist anymore. That part is mind blowing so the other Olivia never had his baby I hate time paradoxes.
 
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I still don't know what to think about the finale. I really loved the whole 2026 though. I'll have to rewatch it again but let me get this straight. Peter never existed because his conscience was sent forward through time and then back? Or did he just NEVER exist? I can't see how the latter is even possible since Walter crossed over and got him as a child. Unless, now...all that didn't happen? Didn't the Observers say they have no memory of Peter? UGHHHH total mind**** for me. SOMEONE EXPLAIN IF THEY CAN! :D
 
As far as Walter's reasons for crossing universes, he said it was an accident. So, instead of going to save Peter's life, he probably went over just to test his dimensional gateway and explore the other side. Doing so began breaking down the other universe, just as it did when he went over for Peter.

Walternate's motivation has become revenge for the damage done to his universe, rather than revenge for the damage and for taking Peter.

And, really, it's probably possible to rewrite every episode of Fringe to exclude Peter (and the episodes specifically about him just didn't happen, and others may have taken a very different direction). What I'm curious to see is how they were able to activate the machine without him.
 
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AFAIK Jackson isn't leaving the show is he? So how do you think they can return a character no one remembers?
 
Astrid looked cute in the last episode
 
AFAIK Jackson isn't leaving the show is he? So how do you think they can return a character no one remembers?

How do the Observers remember him? For that to happen, he can't be gone gone, can he?

It's going to make for a very interesting season.
 
Hopefully they do end up making Astrid a field agent for real. She needs a bigger role than just being Walter's Igor.
 
as much as i like to see Astrid spread her wings..... who will keep Walter in line?
 
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