Future of the Franchise.

[Spooderman]

Well the reviews are showing up and this movie looks like it will be trash. Will it make it's budget back? Who knows, but audiences will likely be getting a sour taste in their mouth.

So what is going to happen? Will Fox make FFINO 2 like the planned? Will they make a deal with Marvel like sony? Will they try and reboot in 2021? Discuss

 

[ShadowBoxer]

This will probably be the last Fantastic Four live action movie we see for a while. Unless Fox gives the rights back to Marvel but that's HIGHLY unlikely Fox isn't bleeding money like Sony was when they make the deal with Marvel for Sony.

 

[MadVillainy]

FOX will make another movie in 6-7 years

 

[Shikamaru]

Assuming the rights revert, I don't see Marvel rebooting it anytime soon. They might...they will use characters from the FF mythos in other films, but I don't see an FF film in the works for at least another decade or so. The brand name is too damaged, plus they already have a successful cosmic property with a high-grossing actor. From a business perspective, might as well just introduce Silver Surfer/Galactus and Doom through the Guardians and Avengers respectively.

Again, this is all assuming Fox sells the rights back. Which is a wild card at this point.

 

[lordofthenerds]

I can't really see Fox investing in another Fantastic Four movie... but I'm not sure if they'll make a deal with Marvel either. I'll guess they wind up sitting on the rights for 7 years, at which point nothing substantial will surface, and the rights expire.

 

[Comic Book Guy]

This will probably be the last Fantastic Four live action movie we see for a while.

Not sure, but by the way you say this I'm assuming you think the interval between movies will be longer than ROTSS and this one? In which case, that is not possible, because Fox has to make a movie every 7 years. However, 7 years might not even be enough to recover from what they've done to themselves, and they don't have the Marvel universe to fall back on and try to revive the FF like Marvel could do. I will make a thread about this after the OW numbers come in but from my perspective Fox's only course of action from here is to give up, if the box office numbers end up matching the poor reception.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I doubt there is going to be a sequel to this. This sounds like it must have been a miserable production and unless it's a runaway success (it won't be), I doubt anyone will be eager to return for the sequel. Especially since a sequel will be dealing with even worse buzz than this film had. If Fox is smart they'll start using the Fantastic Four as a bargaining chip with Marvel. If they're dumb, they'll try another reboot and have the rights reverts after however many years because I doubt investors will support a 3rd stab at this franchise.

 

[third3ye]

There's what we think will happen, and what we think should happen.

Almost everyone is in agreement that Fox should just let the rights go back to Marvel, but there's a lot of doubt that'll actually happen anytime soon.

 

[Shikamaru]

I doubt there is going to be a sequel to this. This sounds like it must have been a miserable production and unless it's a runaway success (it won't be), I doubt anyone will be eager to return for the sequel. Especially since a sequel will be dealing with even worse buzz than this film had. If Fox is smart they'll start using the Fantastic Four as a bargaining chip with Marvel. If they're dumb, they'll try another reboot and have the rights reverts after however many years because I doubt investors will support a 3rd stab at this franchise.

It depends on how much money they make. If it's not at least a monetary success, they'll sit on it till the rights revert or just sell it off immediately (hopefully the latter). There's no way they'd reboot again.

 

[Black Narcissus]

In a weird way they (marvel) already have their Fantastic family. GOTG.

Shame.

 

[Duran Man]

What I want to happen is that FF goes back to Marvel. What will happen is anyone's guess. Fox could very well give this another go some years from now. The one thing I am certain of is that this dumbass idea of crossing FFINO over with the X-Men franchise, sullying it in the process, is dead, and for that I'm grateful.

 

[Joe Rockhead]

Rights will just lapse back to Marvel in 7-8 years. Then Marvel will be able to use them as supporting characters in a tentpole movie, but they won't have their own film and/or series for at least 10 years.

 

[Nathan]

Assuming the rights revert, I don't see Marvel rebooting it anytime soon. They might...they will use characters from the FF mythos in other films, but I don't see an FF film in the works for at least another decade or so. The brand name is too damaged, plus they already have a successful cosmic property with a high-grossing actor. From a business perspective, might as well just introduce Silver Surfer/Galactus and Doom through the Guardians and Avengers respectively.

Again, this is all assuming Fox sells the rights back. Which is a wild card at this point.

Maybe they could start small and first introduce them as guest characters in other Movies. I'd start with having the Fantastic Four return from their space voyage, some time after the whole Infinity War took place. Say they were lost somewhere in the Negative Zone for 2 or 3 years, to explain their absence. Maybe just put them into an after/mid-credit scene first, coming with a warning that Annihilus, Galactus, the Skrulls, whoever are on their way.

Then continue to give them minor roles in other Marvel Movies. Make Reed a member of the Science Bros, and have him, Tony and Bruce geek out in the lab. Spidey could actually visit the Baxter Building and ask for help. Just make them really good supporting characters throughout Phase 4. Then in Phase 5, after their name has been repaired, give them their own Movie.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

The future of Fantastic Four at Marvel:

The future of Fantastic Four at Fox:

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It depends on what happens at the box office. I don't see it succeeding but if it does I see Fox making a sequel.

 

[BatsDC]

Perhaps Fox will try to sell back to recoup any money lost on this movie.

 

[starscream22]

The future of Fantastic Four at Marvel:

The future of Fantastic Four at Fox:

 

[Marathon]

Fox will use FF as a bargain for various X-related deals. I'm not sure that's ideal as I'm beginning to warm to the idea of an MCU X-Men, especially after Foxpocalypse. But at least the FF and its auxiliary characters, places, things (no pun intended) etc. can then be used in the MCU.

 

[starscream22]

It's a toss up on how this does OW.

If its around 20M Domestic then yeah, Fox will grudgingly sell it in a couple years.

 

[fantastic fifth]

I soooooooooooo want to see the FF with the Frightful Four, the Inhumans, the real Dr. Doom, Annihulus, Kang, Tigra, Thundra, She-Hulk, Sue/Reed have their kids - Agatha Harknees as their Governess tying in with Dr. Strange, so many others.....

 

[Tony Stark]

Fox will use FF as a bargain for various X-related deals. I'm not sure that's ideal as I'm beginning to warm to the idea of an MCU X-Men, especially after Foxpocalypse. But at least the FF and its auxiliary characters, places, things (no pun intended) etc. can then be used in the MCU.

I just don't see how that works. They either negotiate a deal, or the rights expire. Fox has ZERO bargaining power, and they are going to get ripped by their shareholders and board of directors for the absolutely terrible year they've had.

 

[Drz]

If the movie makes enough money they'll continue with the franchise to get the X-Men crossover, if it underperforms they might wait 8 years again or don't do a sequel but make a X-men crossover straight away.

 

[Marathon]

I just don't see how that works. They either negotiate a deal, or the rights expire. Fox has ZERO bargaining power, and they are going to get ripped by their shareholders and board of directors for the absolutely terrible year they've had.

Well, Fox is kind of at crossroads even with the X-franchise because Apocalypse ends the trilogy, Deadpool (never mind Gambit) is a complete wild card, and Hugh Jackman is (probably) hanging up the claws. AND they don't have any X-related merchandising (a staggering amount of potential money lost) or TV/Animated/Netflix rights. So while they aren't anything near as desperate as Sony was, this incoherent and ultimately failed production of FFINO has made things even more complicated for them.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I'm betting this movie will be a flop for Fox, there's not much excitement for the movie and the reviews are bad out of the gate. It'll probably be a three strikes we're out for Fox with the franchise. If I was Fox I'd negotiate with Disney/Marvel to get merchandising or at least toy rights for X-Men in exchange for Fantastic Four, then I'd see Marvel slowly bringing in the F4 or using their non-F4 Heroes and villians for other movies, putting Galactus and Silver Surfer in Infinity War. Giving the F4 their own movie in Phase 4

Otherwise they'll just let the rights lapse, if that's the case, I can see Marvel making the Fantastic 4 a tentpole of Phase 4 and introduce the team in a big way without set up.

 

[Eddie]

Yes, make an X-Men crossover. Make an X-Men film that has to give Marvel Fantastic Four's larger box office cut. Nothing says good business like throwing a rights holder extra money when you could have made a similar grossing film and kept more of the profits.