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Rise of the Silver Surfer GALACTUS Discussion

So does the "Galactus Cloud" actually look like cables throughout like in my screenshots from the cartoon or does it actually form one big cloud?

i hope so...

you know what...i hope that we only see an effect of Galactus and not that Galactus IS the cloud.

but Tim Story said we will see Galactus in this movie, and everything i've read says he's a friggen cloud.

look what we should have everyone...look at this:

Galactus.jpg
 
i hope so...

you know what...i hope that we only see an effect of Galactus and not that Galactus IS the cloud.

but Tim Story said we will see Galactus in this movie, and everything i've read says he's a friggen cloud.

look what we should have everyone...look at this:

Galactus.jpg

:wow:

:(:up:
 
EXCUSE ME!!!! Mind who you are calling am idiot you pathetic troll.:cmad:

I'm the one meeting the director, attending the premiere and meeting the cast whilst you are hooked up to a monitor somewhere in your underpants in your parents house. ignorant troll.:cmad: (yeah...assumptions aren't nice are they?)

Sorry but I have been courteous and at worst a little playful with my posts and your ignorant remark has offended me. Trust me I am anything from mindless, I do NOT work for Fox and anyone who can make a character profile from a couple of post's on a message board is not only the idiot but a complete 'tool'.

Mod's if I'm out of line i apologise but I'm not used to being talked to like this, calling someone an idiot over an opinion over a movie is pathetic. Sorry.

How dare you talk to me like that?!!!

First off I took the liberty of calling you an idiot only because you were not very "courteous" in your post to the other guy.
secondly you could not be more wrong about your "assumptions" about me, but knowing that you "met the director and attended the premier" does explain a lot as far as your support for this film.

Let me explain why I said what I said.

You (story/Fox) are given the opportunity to do a movie about a particular genre and set of characters.
Prior to making the movie you get the chance to see others attempt to do the same thing.
you see the X-men and Spider-man. The x-men takes many liberties with the characters/stories/genre and though it is well accepted and well liked, it makes about 200 million at the BO.
Spider-man on the other stays very faithfull to the comics. It keeps the comic book/superhero aspects of the comics pretty much intact. This results in not only the film being loved but with a BO of 400 million dollars. TWICE as much as the x-men.
you get the chance to observe some other movies as well and the lesson starts to form that the closer one is to the source material (however "silly" that material may seem) the more successful the result.
You however decide not to adhere to this belief; at least not completely. You decide to take liberties and make major changes to the source material.
ok, it's not what I would have done, but you may have had your reasons and/or limitations for doing so.
it turns out that every change you make, everywhere you thought you could do it better, turns out to be bad. In fact your film gets a luke warm reception because while people liked the parts that were faithful, the parts where you made changes pissed people off.
The BIGGEST mistake/problem you/had made was changing the appearance/design/character of the main villain of your piece. While smaller changes such as the Thing's brow, or reed's characterization etc, had a negative impact, changing Dr.Doom was a disaster which threatned to ruin your movie.
yet in spite of the obvious problems the film makes enough at the BO to give you a second chance.
Since that time you had more opportunity to observe others try to tackle the comic book genre. With the results of movies like Elektra, Catwoman, SUperman returns, HUlk, not to mention Batman Begins, Spider-man 2, 300, sin city, etcThe lesson now becomes clear that the further you go from the source material the worst off you are.
if there was any doubt of this, Frank Miller, the most successful comic to movies guy around says exactly that.
so now you get your second chance, and what do you decide?
first you decide not to bother to change even the little things (such as Thing's brow) even though it would have been an easy way to get people excited.
second you decide not to bother with the biggest problem of the first film; namely Dr. Doom. You may have changed your original design but you make no attempt to simply duplicate the source material. Instead, still presuming to know better, you come up with a whole new design which is as different from the comics as the first design was. You continue to show us Julian Mcmahon's face inspite of the fact that a fundemental fact about Doom is that You DO NOT SEE HIS FACE.
but you don't stop there. Not only do you not fix the mistakes you made which turned people off in your first movie, but you decide to DO IT AGAIN. you take the main villain of the piece and change him even more drastically then you did in your first film. You turn him into something completely different.
You also take a classic, iconic, and awesome story which has stood the test of time for over 50 years, and you decide it's not good enough and come up with something else.
The result is that even though the film has not even been released yet you have paid a high price for your decision. you have already generated a lot of negative feelings for your film.

Other than saying that you "made things better", and you gave us "full doom", and that "Galactus is in the movie" (blatant lies which unfortunately some "fans" still want to believe in spite of the clear evidence) The only thing you stay true to is the design of the SS, which interestingly is the ONLY thing keeping people interested in this movie.

I'm sorry but that is simply idiotic. It is stupid.

I will say that you are right. I was wrong to call you an idiot. I don't know you well enough to make that statement and I apologize.
But I will say that your comments and your support for Story/fox is as idiotic as Story/fox choices for this movie.
 
Silver surfer looking like T1000 is bad... The Thing looking like a bad 60's film is bad... Dr Doom looking like a Gladiator in Spartacus is bad. But Galactus looking like a cloud? Thats plain stupid. I smell turd... Big one...
 
Really? Because those two pics really remind me of this from the Silver Surfer cartoon that was from Fox back in the 90's:

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If there are cables hidden underneath there they've done awfully good job of hiding it. Non of the reviews indicate anything like that.

That story concerns the Silver Surfer's arrival upon Earth, heralding the on-coming Galactus, Eater Of Worlds. Written in 1966, this was a landmark episode in the Marvel Universe. The story goes that Jack Kirby created the Silver Surfer because he was tired of drawing spaceships. With his cosmic board and self-pitying philosophising, the Surfer is a strange anomaly in this day and age. No marketing department would sign off on him now. Alas, Kirby's vision of Galactus, a 28ft tall man-god in metal armour and purple helmet with two set squares for horns, doesn't make it past the gatekeepers. Instead, the eater of worlds that follows the Surfer around is a mix between a tornado of space dust and a voracious space worm.
An emissary of Galactus – a giant vortex that sucks the life out of entire planets - the Surfer (voiced by Laurence Fishburne) zooms to Earth on his cosmically powered board, screwing up the weather, disrupting power supplies and leaving huge craters everywhere.

Basically, he’s the intergalactic equivalent of British Gas.
Source:http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/film.jsp?id=160712
http://www.skymovies.com/skymovies/article/0,,80000-13491588,00.html
 
You know, I think classic Galactus would look bad in a day scene, but at a sunset scene or night time, he'd look kickass!:eek:
 
But a swirling storm cloud, that may or may not be shielding something within it, is gonna make you shake in your boots?

Well, I certainly can't see myself laughing at a cloud. If Twister, Perfect Storm, The Day After Tomorrow has shown us...mother nature can be a b****. LOL.

:cwink:

That's the thing that's being overlooked. You're dealing with elements of high fantasy. Pretty much anything can be made silly if you reduce it to simple form. If you surround Galactus' imminent arrival by categorizing him as a God-like entity, capable of unlimited destruction; if you underscore his appearance with the right gravitas, he practically necessitates a larger than life manifestation. There's no reason whatsoever why the classic look of Galactus can't be translated on film to be as menacing as it's supposed to be.

Good point. But remember...we're dealing with FOX. Is it really worth it to introduce a 'faithful' looking Galactus when in the end, he's most likely gonna get the shaft, development wise by the studio?

Perhaps if it was Marvel or dare I say it WB, then maybe I'd be willing to see a real Galactus on screen...but since its FOX, i'm just gonna 'buy' into the cloud thing...
 
First off I took the liberty of calling you an idiot only because you were not very "courteous" in your post to the other guy.
secondly you could not be more wrong about your "assumptions" about me, but knowing that you "met the director and attended the premier" does explain a lot as far as your support for this film.

Let me explain why I said what I said.

You (story/Fox) are given the opportunity to do a movie about a particular genre and set of characters.
Prior to making the movie you get the chance to see others attempt to do the same thing.
you see the X-men and Spider-man. The x-men takes many liberties with the characters/stories/genre and though it is well accepted and well liked, it makes about 200 million at the BO.
Spider-man on the other stays very faithfull to the comics. It keeps the comic book/superhero aspects of the comics pretty much intact. This results in not only the film being loved but with a BO of 400 million dollars. TWICE as much as the x-men.
you get the chance to observe some other movies as well and the lesson starts to form that the closer one is to the source material (however "silly" that material may seem) the more successful the result.
You however decide not to adhere to this belief; at least not completely. You decide to take liberties and make major changes to the source material.
ok, it's not what I would have done, but you may have had your reasons and/or limitations for doing so.
it turns out that every change you make, everywhere you thought you could do it better, turns out to be bad. In fact your film gets a luke warm reception because while people liked the parts that were faithful, the parts where you made changes pissed people off.
The BIGGEST mistake/problem you/had made was changing the appearance/design/character of the main villain of your piece. While smaller changes such as the Thing's brow, or reed's characterization etc, had a negative impact, changing Dr.Doom was a disaster which threatned to ruin your movie.
yet in spite of the obvious problems the film makes enough at the BO to give you a second chance.
Since that time you had more opportunity to observe others try to tackle the comic book genre. With the results of movies like Elektra, Catwoman, SUperman returns, HUlk, not to mention Batman Begins, Spider-man 2, 300, sin city, etcThe lesson now becomes clear that the further you go from the source material the worst off you are.
if there was any doubt of this, Frank Miller, the most successful comic to movies guy around says exactly that.
so now you get your second chance, and what do you decide?
first you decide not to bother to change even the little things (such as Thing's brow) even though it would have been an easy way to get people excited.
second you decide not to bother with the biggest problem of the first film; namely Dr. Doom. You may have changed your original design but you make no attempt to simply duplicate the source material. Instead, still presuming to know better, you come up with a whole new design which is as different from the comics as the first design was. You continue to show us Julian Mcmahon's face inspite of the fact that a fundemental fact about Doom is that You DO NOT SEE HIS FACE.
but you don't stop there. Not only do you not fix the mistakes you made which turned people off in your first movie, but you decide to DO IT AGAIN. you take the main villain of the piece and change him even more drastically then you did in your first film. You turn him into something completely different.
You also take a classic, iconic, and awesome story which has stood the test of time for over 50 years, and you decide it's not good enough and come up with something else.
The result is that even though the film has not even been released yet you have paid a high price for your decision. you have already generated a lot of negative feelings for your film.

Other than saying that you "made things better", and you gave us "full doom", and that "Galactus is in the movie" (blatant lies which unfortunately some "fans" still want to believe in spite of the clear evidence) The only thing you stay true to is the design of the SS, which interestingly is the ONLY thing keeping people interested in this movie.

I'm sorry but that is simply idiotic. It is stupid.

I will say that you are right. I was wrong to call you an idiot. I don't know you well enough to make that statement and I apologize.
But I will say that your comments and your support for Story/fox is as idiotic as Story/fox choices for this movie.

clap, clap, clap clap clapclapclapclapclap EXACTLY!!!
 
Damn...it's getting hot in here!

I love the Fantastic Four, and really Silver Surfer is one of my faves, but guys, it's not that serious to start insulting each other, without even seeing the film. Let's jsut chill and wait for the movie in a few days. I really hope they don't mess with galactus, but at the end of the day, it's a business decision, and it's best to teach Fox a lesson thru boycotting their crap, if they continue to let us down. They had the potential for Spider-Man numbers, but only if they deliver something that's worthwhile.
 
Well, I certainly can't see myself laughing at a cloud. If Twister, Perfect Storm, The Day After Tomorrow has shown us...mother nature can be a b****. LOL.

:cwink:



Good point. But remember...we're dealing with FOX. Is it really worth it to introduce a 'faithful' looking Galactus when in the end, he's most likely gonna get the shaft, development wise by the studio?

Perhaps if it was Marvel or dare I say it WB, then maybe I'd be willing to see a real Galactus on screen...but since its FOX, i'm just gonna 'buy' into the cloud thing...

so you are saying thatyou'd rather have Galactus be a cloud then a somewhat poor looking version of him with good character development that could actually be made into something?

cause if that's what you're saying...that's your opinion...it i refuse to "buy" that
 
If there are cables hidden underneath there they've done awfully good job of hiding it. Non of the reviews indicate anything like that.

Source:http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/film.jsp?id=160712
http://www.skymovies.com/skymovies/article/0,,80000-13491588,00.html

Are you sure? They seem to say so to me, just "voracious space worms" and "tornado vortexes" instead. Are those not the similar shape of "cables" when stretched the length they are shown? That's what those cables in the cartoon are doing, sucking the life out of the planet.
 
I always thought Galactus would look cheesey on screen...then I saw him in Marvel Ultimate Alliance in that cinematic and I was convinced it'd work.

Same here, with a few modifications here and there it'd perfect.:up:

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Damn...it's getting hot in here!

I love the Fantastic Four, and really Silver Surfer is one of my faves, but guys, it's not that serious to start insulting each other, without even seeing the film. Let's jsut chill and wait for the movie in a few days. I really hope they don't mess with galactus, but at the end of the day, it's a business decision, and it's best to teach Fox a lesson thru boycotting their crap, if they continue to let us down. They had the potential for Spider-Man numbers, but only if they deliver something that's worthwhile.

buddy, he appologized for calling him an idiot, and there is no reason to get personal in here...but here's the thing.

we. are. pissed. and people aren't always very nice when they're pissed. i blew up earlier too. i just think there should be more understanding of this fact.

oh, and i agree with everything you had to say there.
 
buddy, he appologized for calling him an idiot, and there is no reason to get personal in here...but here's the thing.

we. are. pissed. and people aren't always very nice when they're pissed. i blew up earlier too. i just think there should be more understanding of this fact.

oh, and i agree with everything you had to say there.

LOL...I've gotten into it with other posters as well, so I definitely can understand the passion...but...let's at least see the film first.
 
Are you sure? They seem to say so to me, just "voracious space worms" and "tornado vortexes" instead. Are those not the similar shape of "cables" when stretched the length they are shown? That's what those cables in the cartoon are doing, sucking the life out of the planet.
I suppose it's feasible that those are the 'cables'.
 
Just trying to play devil's advocate here, or rather "angel's advocate" since I'm trying to be more positive about this. It's obvious Fox didn't want to show the "true" Galactus until the Silver Surfer's solo flick. I mean, we DO see the shadow of his helmet over Saturn, do we not?
 
so you are saying thatyou'd rather have Galactus be a cloud then a somewhat poor looking version of him with good character development that could actually be made into something?

Pretty much yeah.

cause if that's what you're saying...that's your opinion...it i refuse to "buy" that

Character development and FOX do not go together...like I said, if it was any other studio I may feel differently but FOX is all about the quick buck. You really think they'd take the time and develop a character like Galactus?

All i'm saying is that if they're gonna go ahead and screw it up, they may as well be original about it, hence the cloud.

After X3 (which I love, but is severely flawed) I'm just taking the stance of..."sure...why not?" when it comes to FOX and their treatment of the Marvel franchises. :o
 
Pretty much yeah.



Character development and FOX do not go together...like I said, if it was any other studio I may feel differently but FOX is all about the quick buck. You really think they'd take the time and develop a character like Galactus?

All i'm saying is that if they're gonna go ahead and screw it up, they may as well be original about it, hence the cloud.

After X3 (which I love, but is severely flawed) I'm just taking the stance of..."sure...why not?" when it comes to FOX and their treatment of the Marvel franchises. :o

You're either very passive or very masochistic :ninja:
 

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