Game of Thrones - HBO part 2

[Raiden]

It was real and Cersei did not want Joffery to do that at all. She's smart enough to realize the s**t storm that her son just unleashed throughout the realm.

I don't know if she has gotten the news that her brother/lover Jaime has been captured by the Starks, because if she did she would've figured to use Ned as trading bait to get Jaime back, or to ask Ned to tell his people to cease fire with the Lannisters. Now that Ned is not only dead, by executed by King Joffrey whose mother is a Lannister, it will torpedo whatever plan Cersei may have as well as any advantage over the Starks. Sure, they still have Sansa, but I don't think she'll be willing to be used by Cersei again after this (at least I hope not).

 

[Pink Ranger]

I hope this show gets some recognition come Emmy season.

 

[Buford The Sly]

I don't know if she has gotten the news that her brother/lover Jaime has been captured by the Starks, because if she did she would've figured to use Ned as trading bait to get Jaime back, or to ask Ned to tell his people to cease fire with the Lannisters. Now that Ned is not only dead, by executed by King Joffrey whose mother is a Lannister, it will torpedo whatever plan Cersei may have as well as any advantage over the Starks. Sure, they still have Sansa, but I don't think she'll be willing to be used by Cersei again after this (at least I hope not).

Oh Sansa is still an important hostage. And no the Lannisters did not know about Robb's victory before they executed Ned. Also the Starks have no idea that Arya has fled either.

 

[Buford The Sly]

I hope this show gets some recognition come Emmy season.

Well they may stand a chance since they're not in 30 rock's catagory. However I don't count on the Emmys to award any of the actual good shows out there, they hardly ever do.

 

[Raiden]

Oh Sansa is still an important hostage. And no the Lannisters did not know about Robb's victory before they executed Ned. Also the Starks have no idea that Arya has fled either.

At least Sansa appears to be (from the ep. 10 preview) regretted about betrothed to Joffrey. I'd be even more angry with her if she still wants to marry the guy who murdered her father after promising to let him go beforehand.

 

[mr. peasant]

I don't know if she has gotten the news that her brother/lover Jaime has been captured by the Starks, because if she did she would've figured to use Ned as trading bait to get Jaime back, or to ask Ned to tell his people to cease fire with the Lannisters. Now that Ned is not only dead, by executed by King Joffrey whose mother is a Lannister, it will torpedo whatever plan Cersei may have as well as any advantage over the Starks. Sure, they still have Sansa, but I don't think she'll be willing to be used by Cersei again after this (at least I hope not).

The thing is, Cersei and Joffrey hold all the power in their interactions with Sansa. She is effectively a prisoner and should they decide to kill/torture/rape/flay/fillet/display/cosplay (running out of things that rhyme with -lay) her, there is literally nothing she can do about it. And while Sansa is naive, she's not stupid. She knows this and needs to cooperate if she wants to keep herself safe.


On a separate note, I came across an interesting interview with the show runners regarding their plans for season two. Things of note include:

Spoiler

There are some big shifts between the first book and the second — different characters, new locations, huge battle scenes and new elements like ... dragons. How closely are you sticking to the book?

Weiss: The book is always going to be our template, our go-to bible. It's mainly about the balancing act between keeping the characters the viewers have spent so much time investing in front-and-center and introducing all these new characters George has come up with and giving them their fair share. That's what we're currently engaged in doing.

What will happen to the major characters who remain mostly out of the action for Book 2? Will you keep the actors on retainer?

Weiss: In the book there are a couple of characters who have more of an offscreen role and come back in Book 3. But in the case of, say, Robb Stark — played by Richard Madden — he has more of an offscreen presence in the book, but Richard did such a fabulous job once his character came to the fore, he so commanded the screen that we realized there's no way to talk about this guy and not have him in the show. So there are people offscreen in the book who we are going to write onscreen in the show to make sure people who viewers have fallen in love with are still there in the second season.

Benioff: In the case of Jaime Lannister, he's got one scene in the second book, but he's such an important character we want to see more of him. There's fluidity in that certain scenes from the third book find their way into the second season just as certain scenes from the second book find their way into the end of the first season. We wanted to make sure those characters stayed in the audience's mind and didn't disappear for a whole year.

From the sound of things, they (and GRRM), while not necessarily diverging from the events in the book, seem willing to take liberties with regards to the chronology of events and which characters will be appearing onscreen and offscreen, compared to the books. This likely means that new characters originally focused on/developed in the second book will be given less time in favour of the original characters who didn't originally appear much in the story. Thoughts, anyone?

 

[Buford The Sly]

The thing is, Cersei and Joffrey hold all the power in their interactions with Sansa. She is effectively a prisoner and should they decide to kill/torture/rape/flay/fillet/display/cosplay (running out of things that rhyme with -lay) her, there is literally nothing she can do about it. And while Sansa is naive, she's not stupid. She knows this and needs to cooperate if she wants to keep herself safe.


On a separate note, I came across an interesting interview with the show runners regarding their plans for season two. Things of note include:



From the sound of things, they (and GRRM), while not necessarily diverging from the events in the book, seem willing to take liberties with regards to the chronology of events and which characters will be appearing onscreen and offscreen, compared to the books. This likely means that new characters originally focused on/developed in the second book will be given less time in favour of the original characters who didn't originally appear much in the story. Thoughts, anyone?

Yeah it's been speculated that they'll have to show some of the scenes, especially regarding those two characters, that were only talked about in the books.

Spoiler

There's an escape attempt by Jaime in book 2 that was only mentioned, and also they'll probably follow Robb's battle exploits in the West.

 

[Poeman]

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jamie kicks all kinds of ass from here on out...love the character starting in book 2

 

[Donut]

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jamie kicks all kinds of ass from here on out...love the character starting in book 2

If they do not show his kick assery then all of that kick assery is lost

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

If they do not show his kick assery then all of that kick assery is lost

Sometimes you don't have show off on screen how badass a character is, like Boba Fett ( before the Extended Universe ).
We will see him dueling or in small battle but I don't think the budget can allow huge battle. I guess.

 

[Donut]

I am sure most of the adult guys can handle themselves in any type of fight. If they just tell what he does after he does it then sorry but I won't give a ****. Other shows are small budgets manage to do great stuff. Is this going to be another Heroes ? In terms of lack luster of fights & showing what characters can do ?

 

[Project862006]

not read books but is anyone else not liking Dany lately

 

[Raiden]

not read books but is anyone else not liking Dany lately

I don't see anything wrong with her. Dany is about to give birth, and her hubby (the only reason she'd be welcome in the Dothraki camp) is dying, and she doesn't want to leave his side. Dany knew the blood magic is forbidden, but since the alternative is much worse in her mind, she decided to go for broke. I have a feeling that she'll likely for for the consequences, though, and George RR Martin is a writer who will make a threat and follow it through afterward.

 

[Project862006]

i have been annoyed by the past few episodes tho not just sunday's lol

 

[mr. peasant]

I think it's likely because her storyline doesn't really tie into the main plot - what's going on in King's Landing. Yes, she's trying to reconquer Westeros but it could be any kingdom for all the difference it makes. At least with Jon, he's related to the Starks and regularly receives updates on his family's activities - at which point he starts angsting over being caught between duty and family - which at least makes it feel like he's involved (namely dealing with the emotional fallout).

 

[Buford The Sly]

I think it's likely because her storyline doesn't really tie into the main plot - what's going on in King's Landing. Yes, she's trying to reconquer Westeros but it could be any kingdom for all the difference it makes. At least with Jon, he's related to the Starks and regularly receives updates on his family's activities - at which point he starts angsting over being caught between duty and family - which at least makes it feel like he's involved (namely dealing with the emotional fallout).

Dany's story is the backbone of the entire series and you'll find out why soon.

 

[Raiden]

Dany's story is the backbone of the entire series and you'll find out why soon.

I heard that Jon Snow's story is also integral to the rest of the storyline, is that true?

 

[BlackLantern]

yea...but his role is revealed down the road a ways...there is a reason he was made steward to the Lord Commander

 

[Spidey-Bat]

not read books but is anyone else not liking Dany lately

I like her a little less. She was the reason Drogo got hurt and there didn't seem any reason for the witch to heal him instead of their own healers. She's still a really interesting character and probably the one who has changed the most since the first episode.

 

[Raiden]

yea...but his role is revealed down the road a ways...there is a reason he was made steward to the Lord Commander

I hope he will eventually succeed the Lord Commander's position.

Here's what the show creators discuss about season 2. I don't think there's any major spoiler here, but read at your own risk:

Benioff and Weiss discuss season 2

 

[mr. peasant]

Dany's story is the backbone of the entire series and you'll find out why soon.

Indeed. I was just pointing out that for the moment, her storyline doesn't really relate to the one currently in focus but is instead simply groundwork for a future one. The lack of interaction with the other characters (whether directly or indirectly via ravens) makes it feel somewhat like she's in a separate show at the moment. The only time it intersected with Westeros was when the assassin showed up; which lasted all of a few minutes.

 

[Buford The Sly]

I heard that Jon Snow's story is also integral to the rest of the storyline, is that true?

It is called A Song of Ice and Fire afterall.

 

[Project862006]

 

[Spidey-Bat]

It is called A Song of Ice and Fire afterall.

So Jon is the Ice and Daenerys the Fire?

 

[ChickenScratch]

I like her a little less. She was the reason Drogo got hurt and there didn't seem any reason for the witch to heal him instead of their own healers. She's still a really interesting character and probably the one who has changed the most since the first episode.

She's a Weserterosi in a foreign land, she keeps the only other Westerosi she knows close at hand and I'm sure she instantly felt a connection with Mirri.