Guardians of the Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: General Discussion & Speculation Thread

[Webfoot Hero]

The Ravagers grew on me in the last movie and they did sort of help save the day. Can't believe Yondu would slaughter all them just like that.

Well, it sounds like they turned on him and were going to hand him over to the Kree. Him killing them sounds pretty reasonable.

 

[JtheDreamer]

From the sounds of the dialogue this movie is even more juvenile than that last one. I really wish Marvel would hire actual screenwriters for this instead of letting Gunn have at it.

 

[ImSGirl95]

HAve they shown Sylvester Stallone's character? What was it?

 

[ernesth100]

HAve they shown Sylvester Stallone's character? What was it?

I too am curious. And was any footage shown?

 

[Webfoot Hero]

HAve they shown Sylvester Stallone's character? What was it?

According to James Gunn, Stallone was shown in the footage, interacting with Yondu.

I too am curious. And was any footage shown?

Yes, but it likely won't be released since much of the VFX weren't completely done.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

One thing I love about James Gunn is how open he is about the movie making process. Here's his post on FB about what they showed at the panel today and the meaning of much of it:

https://www.facebook.com/jgunn/posts/10153490064721157:0

Whoa! So we just got off stage at the San Diego Comicon showing not one, but THREE Guardians clips: 1) A piece from the film featuring Yondu, Rocket, baby Groot, and the Ravagers, 2) A behind-the-scenes featurette of me and the cast working on the forthcoming Guardians attraction at Disneyland, and 3) A special glimpse at a montage of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
I thought I’d share with you guys what we shared with everyone there.
If you don’t want minor spoilers from the film, don’t continue to read. I won’t hold it against you, I swear.
Here are the headlines –
THE RAVAGERS ARE A BIG PART OF VOL. 2
Most were on hand for the SDCC presentation, disrupting the proceedings as Ravagers are prone to do. We learn that they’ve had a somewhat contentious, even mutinous, relationship with Yondu since Vol. 1, due to the fact that Yondu let Peter Quill go without reprisal after not giving them the orb.
The leader in all of these shenanigans is the incredibly-powerful yet incredibly ridiculously-named TASERFACE, played by Chris Sullivan (it’s worth noting that four years ago when I was hired for the first Guardians film, I joked that I was going to make Taserface my villain. I suppose it’s no longer a joke).
Joining Chris in full Ravager regalia, was, of course, Sean Gunn as Kraglin, as well as these new Ravagers, all featured in the film:
Wretch, played by Evan Jones
Half-Nut, played by Jimmy Urine
Brahl, played by Stephen Blackehart
Gef the Ravager, played by Steve Agee
Oblo, played by Joe Fria
Narblik, play by Terence Rosemore
MICHAEL ROOKER SHOWED UP IN FULL YONDU MODE
With a big-ass fin on his head. ‘Nuff said.
NEBULA IS A MAJOR PART OF THE FILM
As Karen Gillan knows – because I told her during my first meeting with her – GotG Vol. 1 was just a glimpse at a character I had major plans for in the future of the Guardians-verse. I did not lie.
ELIZABETH DEBICKI PLAYS AYESHA
Ayesha is the golden High Priestess of a genetically-perfect people called the Sovereign. She’s not a woman to be screwed with – she, and her entire world, are extraordinarily deadly.
WE CAUGHT A FIRST LOOK AT MANTIS
Our look for Mantis is similar to her original look in the comics – she’s the same color as Pom Klementieff, the actress who plays her (i.e not green), and she has antennae. We saw just a tiny little glimpse of her in the Comic-Con footage. More will be coming. She’s been one of my favorite parts of making this film.
YES, SYLVESTER STALLONE IS IN THE FILM
This was an amazing experience for me, considering I ran around in my backyard as a kid pretending I was Johnny Rambo. Working with Sly was one of the high points of shooting Vol. 2 for me.
Who does he play? Well, I can’t reveal that quite yet… but we do see him interacting with Yondu in the teaser.
TWO SONGS PLAYED IN THE FOOTAGE
“Come a Little Bit Closer,” by Jay and the Americans, played during the clip where Yondu faces off against some of the Ravagers.
“The Chain,” by Fleetwood Mac was the song used in the montage.
Am I saying these songs are part of Awesome Mix Vol. 2? Not necessarily. But they are great tunes…
A NEW DISNEYLAND GOTG ATTRACTION IS COMING
I’m a huge Disneyland fan and the Tower of Terror is my second favorite attraction there (Space Mountain is number one). So when the folks approached me, asking me to be involved with a new Guardians attraction, I was apprehensive.
But then the Walt Disney Imagineering folks showed me what they had in mind and MY MIND WAS COMPLETELY BLOWN. It was awesome (see the attached concept art for a very small taste). Exhilarating and novel and interactive. I can’t be more pleased to have partnered up with Walt Disney Imagineering in this production, helping to direct and shape the experience so that it has all the heart and fun and humor Guardians movies do.
Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Dave Bautista, and I, along with a few other members of the Guardians cast, put our full effort into making it as great as we knew it could be. We shot most of it while we were in Atlanta shooting Vol. 2, and I can’t wait for you guys to see it and experience it firsthand the next time you visit the park.
WE DISCLOSED THE IDENTITY OF PETER QUILL’S FATHER
This is the biggie, I guess. And, yes, as many people guessed, or assumed, Kurt Russell is playing Peter Quill’s father. And Peter Quill’s father is (as almost no one has guessed)…
EGO.
Known in the comics as Ego the Living Planet.
Yeah, his dad is a planet. Sort of. It will all be explained in the film..
But to me, this is the absolute center of Vol. 2, and one of the reasons I’ve been so excited about it. When Marvel first approached me with the first movie, I thought, “Wait a second? A talking raccoon? Isn’t that a rather ridiculous idea to base a movie around?”
It was then that I took a step back and asked myself: Okay, if a raccoon could talk, and shoot a machine gun, how could that be? And answering that question ended up being the entire foundation of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1. There was a sadness in the answer. Rocket was an animal experimented upon, torn apart and put back together, without compassion. He was the only being of his type, had never known any hint of kindness, and was utterly and completely alone until he met his fellow Guardians. And, one of them in particular – Groot – thought it was worth sacrificing his life for his sake. This melancholy and beautiful undercurrent helped to ground the character for me. He had far more in common with Frankenstein’s monster than he did Bugs Bunny. And I related to him, greatly, and I hoped other folks who felt like outsiders would as well.
Ego seemed, in many ways, like an even more ridiculous character. But I asked myself, if a planet was alive, how could that be? And how could it father a child?
The answers to those questions took me to a far deeper place that I expected. I don’t want to give away too many answers at this time. But what Nova Prime said about Peter’s father at the end of Vol. 1 is certainly true – he is something ancient and unknown. And, as we will discover, being a cosmic being, alone for eons, is perhaps even more lonely than being the universe’s sole talking raccoon.
I can’t wait for you guys to see Kurt Russell bring this character to life onscreen. It has been a rapturous experience creating Ego with him. We have both pushed ourselves as far as we can go in making him real, and grounded, and emotionally centered.
I also can’t wait for all of you to see this movie. I really, really love it. Never has anything I’ve done flowed as smoothly as this project, and been so true and consistent from the first day I started writing it until today, as we edit it and create our visual effects.
And, worry not. Although you’ve learned a lot today, we have countless more surprises for you as we get closer to our release date. And even more of them in the movie itself.
Stay tuned to this page for more updates as we approach May 5, 2017 and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2!
Thanks!
James

 

[Filmfan93]

This sounds very interesting. Although, I hope they have a really good explanation on how Peter's dad is a... planet.

 

[Loki882]

My theory, Ego created a human-looking body which (through a sequence of events that I'm REALLY interesting to learn about), ended up having sex with Meredith Quill. And Peter was the result of that union.

Weird, yes. But it's a James Gunn movie, so weird kind of comes with the territory.

 

[samsnee]

Look who it is

 

[samsnee]

From the sounds of the dialogue this movie is even more juvenile than that last one. I really wish Marvel would hire actual screenwriters for this instead of letting Gunn have at it.

Definitely not for people who aren't a fan of Marvel's humor.

 

[Spiderine]

I guess those of you who guessed it was Ego was right.

Who ever in the world that may have been........

 

[terry78]

Look who it is

Who is that in the picture with him?

 

[samsnee]

Who is that in the picture with him?

Danai Gurira from The Walking Dead who is also in Black Panther.

 

[chamber-music]

HAve they shown Sylvester Stallone's character? What was it?

His playing a Nova apparently.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Shocked no footage has leaked.

 

[HunBoy]

The Ego costume, played by Kurt Russell in Guardians!

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm going to be honest, never crossed my mind that Ego was Kurt Russell. I know we heard rumblings Ego was in the movie, but...Gunn got me on this one, lol.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm going to be honest, never crossed my mind that Ego was Kurt Russell. I know we heard rumblings Ego was in the movie, but...Gunn got me on this one, lol.

Same here, will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

The Ego costume, played by Kurt Russell in Guardians!

This looks great.

 

[samsnee]

I really hope we get a Tango and Cash reunion.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Look who it is

FINALLY! THE REAL FIN! Not that half concocted one in the first movie.

Definitely not for people who aren't a fan of Marvel's humor.

Personally, I wouldn't classify it as typical Marvel humor. Gunn's comedic sensibilities seem to be more of the "low hanging fruit" variety - like the "He got my dick message!" or Drax drunk dialing Ronan.

 

[terry78]

I do respect how transparent Gunn is.

 

[starwolf_oakley]

On one hand, I get it. Marvel Studios has the right to make changes to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Jane Foster is an astro-physicist instead of a nurse-turned-doctor. Johann Schmidt was a scientist instead of a bellboy. Maria Hill doesn't start fights for no reason. Still...

<i>Also confirmed was the casting of Elizabeth Debicki as Ayesha, A.K.A. Karma, A.K.A. Her, A.K.A. Kismet, who in comic books is a product of the same experiments that created Adam Warlock (A.K.A. Him) before ascending to cosmic power. According to Gunn, Ayesha comes from a “genetically-perfect people” named the Sovereign. She serves as their High Priestess and "is not a woman to be screwed with.”</i>

Elizabeth Debicki seems like a good choice for Ayesha/Kismet/Her.

After Adam Warlock was "properly" resurrected, Her meeting Adam Warlock was rather similar in QUASAR. Warlock was a bit off-kilter and wasn't really interested in fathering a genetically perfect being. Her renamed herself Kismet and started looking for a proper mate, a sort of one-woman eugenics project. Wendell Vaughn/Quasar was her choice, causing humorous tomfoolery.

The final issue of the 1990s GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY series revealed that Wendell Vaughn/Quasar and Ayesha/Kismet/Her eventually did have a baby, who became Starhawk. See, different Marvel "families" can connect to each other.

I would *prefer* it if Ayesha and Adam Warlock were created on Earth by the Enclave, giving them a connection to humanity they don't fully understand. Thus explaining why they work so hard to protect the Earth from Thanos and the like. But if Kevin Feige and James Gunn want to go in a different direction, that's their prerogative.

The MCU take on the Guardians of the Galaxy seems to drop many of the original comic characters connections to Earth. Drax (apparently) isn't really jazz saxophone player Arthur Douglas in an alien body. Mantis (apparently) isn't half German and half Vietnamese and won't marry an alien tree-being that looks like Hawkeye's old mentor. Comics are weird, especially back in the 1970s.

 

[Inhuman117]

Gosh i Imagine at the End of The Movie We see Ego in his True Planet Form Singing Hooked on a Feeling because he is Happy not to be Alone Anymore

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I can't wait to see baby Groot in action.