Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows

[hobo123]

np btw nice signature = D

 

[luke1234]

worrd up.

on regards to the burrow attack I didnt really mind it. One of my favorite parts of the book and the movie as well is that there is a real sense of danger even without the main villain himself on the frontline. Obviously the scene was placed there for some more action but it did give a reality of how vulnerable each and everyone of these characters are. I guess as the audience we are to assume the burrow doesnt have the same security as Hogwarts. Doesn't it get attacked again in DH?

 

[Last Son]

I know the movie isn't the book, but in the book, Dumbledore explains to Harry all the protection that was placed on the Burrow so Voldemort couldn't get to him there.

But your right it isn't the book. And obviously there is more protection around Hogwarts than the burrow, since there isn't just harry but hundereds of students in the school. Maybe the protection at the burrow (in the movie) is the fact that he is with members of the order.

I mean is it really enough to ruin the movie? and I know amazingfantasy, what really ruined the movie was the fact that it was a cw dramedy. You may have mentioned that once or twice before.

 

[luke1234]

But your right it isn't the book. And obviously there is more protection around Hogwarts than the burrow, since there isn't just harry but hundereds of students in the school. Maybe the protection at the burrow (in the movie) is the fact that he is with members of the order.

I mean is it really enough to ruin the movie? and I know amazingfantasy, what really ruined the movie was the fact that it was a cw dramedy. You may have mentioned that once or twice before.

oh shiiiit, dont nudge him lol, were gonna have a full out debate again, especially if Matt joins in haha.

 

[Doc Ock]

Can't wait for the new trailer.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Just a to feed the other side of the argument on the burrow attack scene though, how do we know they didn't have amazing protection? What if Voldemort simply knew ways around it (that whole pesky greatest dark wizard of our time thing and all), maybe he knew how to penetrate it and get to Harry, I mean hell he only sent 2 death eaters after him, maybe he was that confident in the plan.

And it's not like the order just let Harry stroll out, he freaks out and sprints out the door after them. Lupin being slightly stunned by the events taking place he couldn't react quick enough to stop him.

Well, it wasn't like they showed them breaking through a tough protection, they just had to lure Harry out. And it wasn't very hard. Not to mention, I wasn't quite sure how they get under the protection to burn down the house after Harry got out. I mean, I didn't hate it, but I just thought it was rushed, and I think having the final battle at the end of HBP would have been more fitting, and more dramatic. It fits perfectly given the frantic nature of that moment after DD is murdered.

 

[Last Son]

ok but would you be cool with them keeping the burrow scene and adding in the battle at hogwarts? I would be ok with both for sure. I don't know if the burrow was to simply add action, but to add it in a very specific place, without the burrow scene the movie would have been recieved as even slower than it already is. Because the burrow scene helps even out the action through at the movie instead of saving it all for the end.

 

[Infinity9999x]

ok but would you be cool with them keeping the burrow scene and adding in the battle at hogwarts? I would be ok with both for sure. I don't know if the burrow was to simply add action, but to add it in a very specific place, without the burrow scene the movie would have been recieved as even slower than it already is. Because the burrow scene helps even out the action through at the movie instead of saving it all for the end.

I wouldn't have minded it as much then. I never hated the idea to be honest. It fit with the theme of the movie. I think they should have taken a little more time with it. I didn't like how easy it was for them to get at Harry. Or how long Harry and Ginny were holding their own against that many DE's without getting taken out.

But my big problem with it was that I really felt they were going "okay, we're cutting the ending fight, but we're giving you another actions sequence!"

Now, I do agree that it wasn't only that reason. This did help keep the movie moving along, it didn't drag as much, and it did heighten the feeling of tension and danger in the film. I just think it could have been done better.

 

[Last Son]

I would agree the execution could have been better, but hot dang, look at that. We found something we agree on The universe is balanced once again.

 

[mclay18]

As much as some hate it HBP is actually my favorite in the franchise, Yate's art direction is amazing, and I really love the look and feel of that film.

The art direction has been pretty much the same throughout the series, with maintaining the same sets for Privet Drive and such. Stuart Craig and Stephanie McMillan have been supervising the production design and set decoration for the Harry Potter series since 2000.

You might be confusing art direction with the cinematography. Bruno Delbonnel did an AMAZING job in HBP, it essentially gave the series a fresh 'look' like Michael Seresin did with POA. There were a lot richly detailed and beautiful shots littered throughout the movie.

Eduardo Serra's work on DH so far hasn't been as eye-catching, but it still looks good. Especially the Godric's Hollow and Silver Doe scene.

 

[Last Son]

Didn't confuse them. Just had a brain lapse while typing. Thanks for the catch though. I did indeed mean cinematography.

 

[Electrix]

Eduardo Serra's work on DH so far hasn't been as eye-catching, but it still looks good. Especially the Godric's Hollow and Silver Doe scene.

He's brought colour back, which is always welcome

 

[danoyse]

Found this on MuggleNet...should calm anyone still worrying that Prince's Tale might have been cut:

http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/show/3602

MTV took a tour of Hogwarts Castle at the Wizarding World of Harry Potter theme park at Universal Orlando with Dan Radcliffe, and during the interview Dan had this interesting bit to say about a big scene during Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows:

Radcliffe himself was flooded with memories while standing there. The room most reminded him of the end of "Chamber of Secrets," in the scene with Richard Harris' Dumbledore and Jason Isaac's Lucius Malfoy. But he also said that the office plays a part in a scene audiences have yet to see. "One of the key scenes in the series happens in this room, where towards the end of ['Deathly Hallows'], Harry learns something about Snape's past in relation to him, and that takes place in this room. In fact, actually, it takes place pretty much here," he said, motioning to where he was standing. "And that is kind of pretty much possibly the key scene in the series, you might say. There's a certain argument for that."

 

[Last Son]

So sorry if this is old news to people, but I am re reading the entire Potter series for the 2nd time ever, and in the second book on page 129 for those reading the american version Nearly headless Nick says that he is celebrating his 500th deathday.

well then a few pages later (133) they see his birthday cake reads that he died October 31st, 1492. 500 years from that is 1992......no that it is significant but sadly it makes it slightly less of a modern story in my head.

Thoughts? or is this very much a dead discussion already?

 

[batman11]

So sorry if this is old news to people, but I am re reading the entire Potter series for the 2nd time ever, and in the second book on page 129 for those reading the american version Nearly headless Nick says that he is celebrating his 500th deathday.

well then a few pages later (133) they see his birthday cake reads that he died October 31st, 1492. 500 years from that is 1992......no that it is significant but sadly it makes it slightly less of a modern story in my head.

Thoughts? or is this very much a dead discussion already?

The entire series does actually have a set time period. It's not explicitly mentioned in the novel, but through various connections (such as the one you made), as well as some info from Rowling, certain dates and times of events are known. I wouldn't claim to be completely up to speed on the dates and times, because to me the stories have a bit of a timeless quality to them and I don't concern myself with the accuracies of period, but there are some places where you may be able to find actual concrete info. Hell, I'm sure there are some members here that have some sort of knowledge regarding it as well.

 

[Sawyer]

Found this on MuggleNet...should calm anyone still worrying that Prince's Tale might have been cut:

http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/show/3602

Yes!!!

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Yeah that's pretty well known. The seventh one ends in 1997/1998 which is incidentally when the first book was published (correct me if I am wrong). Also, the Prime Minister in the Sixth one gave clear indication of the date.

Allusions to the time are dropped here and there. I looked for them right away through my first read.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

The entire series does actually have a set time period. It's not explicitly mentioned in the novel, but through various connections (such as the one you made), as well as some info from Rowling, certain dates and times of events are known. I wouldn't claim to be completely up to speed on the dates and times, because to me the stories have a bit of a timeless quality to them and I don't concern myself with the accuracies of period, but there are some places where you may be able to find actual concrete info. Hell, I'm sure there are some members here that have some sort of knowledge regarding it as well.

Takes Place in the 90s' in the books. Films...I'm not sure of.

 

[danoyse]

So sorry if this is old news to people, but I am re reading the entire Potter series for the 2nd time ever, and in the second book on page 129 for those reading the american version Nearly headless Nick says that he is celebrating his 500th deathday.

well then a few pages later (133) they see his birthday cake reads that he died October 31st, 1492. 500 years from that is 1992......no that it is significant but sadly it makes it slightly less of a modern story in my head.

Thoughts? or is this very much a dead discussion already?

In Deathly Hallows, we find out that Harry's parents died in 1981, so the story does take place in the 1990s. There are a few references to the time throughout the series.

 

[luke1234]

In Deathly Hallows, we find out that Harry's parents died in 1981, so the story does take place in the 1990s. There are a few references to the time throughout the series.

hmm its funny how i never caught on to that. I always read these books as if they were in the present because just like Batman 11 stated, they are rather timeless. I wonder if the movies have stuck by that timeline as well. It seems like it especially in Vernon's house.

 

[lzzy]

I'm sure Rowling slipped up with the dates, I think in either CoS or PoA Harry talks about Dudley throwing out his playstation. If the dates work out, then the playstation wouldn't have been around. It was released in the west in '96. Just a nitpick, really.

 

[chaseter]

Found this on MuggleNet...should calm anyone still worrying that Prince's Tale might have been cut:

http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/show/3602

Even then, the people that are against Yates will find another way to say they aren't going to go see it.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I'm sure Rowling slipped up with the dates, I think in either CoS or PoA Harry talks about Dudley throwing out his playstation. If the dates work out, then the playstation wouldn't have been around. It was released in the west in '96. Just a nitpick, really.

The playstation was released in Europe in 1995, and Harry described the playstation event in a letter to Sirius, so I'm fairly sure it was in GOF, in which case I think it would have been all right.

 

[lzzy]

The playstation was released in Europe in 1995, and Harry described the playstation event in a letter to Sirius, so I'm fairly sure it was in GOF, in which case I think it would have been all right.

I was sure it was one of the first three. I'd check but... if you're right, then I'd be happy with that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Video games are mentioned in the first book, but no specific brand name is given.