Help on my Venom art please...

[StrainedEyes]

The pose itself is just not exciting. You really need to start over, give it some energy. ontop of fixing the anatomy problems

Your head anatomy is off too, i don't know how you gave him such a lumpy head

Do sketches and work things out before you get too far into it, something like this

 

[webhead731]

Um, okay. Since I don't have money at the moment, I can't buy the books on Anatomy, I'll probably have to wait until Christmas.

I really have no time to draw another, better Venom, especially without the books to help. I drew this in Art class for a project that I'm doing and took it home to put in PhotoShop because that's my hobby. Drawing and coloring my art.
I might have to wait until Christmas break before I get the time to do another one. I was proud of this one, and suprised I even got it done the way it came out.

And the white outline? When I remove that it looks like crap. It doesn't look right when gone. It's lighting from the sun. And it's not even white. It's a yellowish orange kinda' color. It may look white but I swear that's not what color I was using.

 

[webhead731]

The pose itself is just not exciting. You really need to start over, give it some energy. ontop of fixing the anatomy problems

Your head anatomy is off too, i don't know how you gave him such a lumpy head

Do sketches and work things out before you get too far into it, something like this

I did do sketches and...dang...I like that pose better.

Ugh.

 

[webhead731]

Hold up, you do know I'm only 15, right?

Seriously, is it a really bad thing that I didn't know about this? Is my picture not right for someone my age?

 

[webhead731]

Oh and you're version seriously makes mine look so crappy. Wow.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Hold up, you do know I'm only 15, right?

Seriously, is it a really bad thing that I didn't know about this? Is my picture not right for someone my age?

No, it's not bad at all. You just gotta learn some how, right? Better sooner than later.

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Here try this link, should help you with the anatomy part.

http://www.michaelmhensley.com/page0006.htm?window=_self

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Study those pictures, draw them over and over and over until you can copy them perfectly without having to look at the pictures. Then you'll know you have the anatomy down pat.

 

[webhead731]

No, it's not bad at all. You just gotta learn some how, right? Better sooner than later.

Okay, thank you.

Thanks for the picture too. Ow, mine hurts my eyes.

Mind if I use yours for a reference? Mainly on the left arm (our right).

 

[Mr. Smash'n Bash]

Also, Male and Female figures with the skin!

http://www.michaelmhensley.com/page0004.htm?window=_self

http://www.michaelmhensley.com/page0005.htm

 

[webhead731]

I'll take a look Mr. S&B. Thanks.

 

[webhead731]

Geo7877, so you studied this stuff? It makes it easier to draw right?

By the way, Eminem owns. My favorite rap song is Lose Yourself. I listen to it all the time lol.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Okay, thank you.

Thanks for the picture too. Ow, mine hurts my eyes.

Mind if I use yours for a reference? Mainly on the left arm (our right).

its ok, i'm not using it

 

[StrainedEyes]

Geo7877, so you studied this stuff? It makes it easier to draw right?

By the way, Eminem owns. My favorite rap song is Lose Yourself. I listen to it all the time lol.

I did alot of stuff. I started off drawing pictures from comics, then i went to the Marvel Way style books that tell you how to draw. Then I went to working from pictures, then I bought a few anatomy books (Some based on drawing, some off of just anatomy, how stuff works). Now thanks to college I have some nude model drawing under my belt.

It's really just practice makes perfect. If you''re drawing a muscle clad venom, look up body builder pictures on google, work off of them. Drawing from life is the best way to learn.

 

[webhead731]

Okay. Thanks.

So, my picture right now, it's good, but just not as good as it could be, right?

I might have the better version drawn and colored by next week but I don't know. Hopefully yeah. This one isn't bad enough to just get rid of and forget about is it?

 

[StrainedEyes]

Okay. Thanks.

So, my picture right now, it's good, but just not as good as it could be, right?

I might have the better version drawn and colored by next week but I don't know. Hopefully yeah. This one isn't bad enough to just get rid of and forget about is it?

Yeah, it's fine, there's no reason to completely forget about it, just keep on working and see the improvements

 

[Anita18]

You could always just use it as reference for a more improved version.

I definitely dig Geo7877's pose, and I think it's because it's got good gravity (not to mention accurate musculature). The body's down lower, the arm's up higher, and he looks like he's going to pounce on you.

When people first start to draw bodies, they tend to deemphasize the overall energy, but it's necessary to emphasize the energy instead, paying attention to how the body tilts and all. A drawing doesn't have to be detailed at all to convey energy. I'm currently drawing a comic that utilizes Chinese brush painting, which simplifies everything down to a few brushstrokes, and I really like this artist's work (even though he isn't Chinese ) since he captures the tension and energy without making anything too detailed.

As for your age, yes it's pretty good, but you can't let your age fool you into thinking you can't be better. Also, most people can't draw for crap, so you're really ahead of the game! That's why I think I need to be somewhere where people are super-talented, so I can be properly pushed.

Also, you don't need to buy anatomy books. I went out to the library and found a book on animal anatomy, and stayed after work to copy all the pictures out of it. Of course, since you're 15 you might not have access to a copier like I do, but hey, 5-10 cents a copy won't kill you.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Hold up, you do know I'm only 15, right?

Seriously, is it a really bad thing that I didn't know about this? Is my picture not right for someone my age?

In case you were curious, this is my favorite thing I did when I was 15, it was done 3 months after I turned 15.

Than this was done 2 months after I turned 16

So don't feel too bad about anything you do, cause in a year you'll be doing things much better

 

[webhead731]

You should see artwork way before age 15 of mine.
I guess I do get better every year.
But dang you were great with the buildings! Nice pictures too!

I'm okay with buildings but you were great at that age. I have to study buildings better too. It's the windows and angles that get me all messed up.
How much anatomy did you study at that age?

 

[webhead731]

You could always just use it as reference for a more improved version.

I definitely dig Geo7877's pose, and I think it's because it's got good gravity (not to mention accurate musculature). The body's down lower, the arm's up higher, and he looks like he's going to pounce on you.

When people first start to draw bodies, they tend to deemphasize the overall energy, but it's necessary to emphasize the energy instead, paying attention to how the body tilts and all. A drawing doesn't have to be detailed at all to convey energy. I'm currently drawing a comic that utilizes Chinese brush painting, which simplifies everything down to a few brushstrokes, and I really like this artist's work (even though he isn't Chinese ) since he captures the tension and energy without making anything too detailed.

As for your age, yes it's pretty good, but you can't let your age fool you into thinking you can't be better. Also, most people can't draw for crap, so you're really ahead of the game! That's why I think I need to be somewhere where people are super-talented, so I can be properly pushed.

Also, you don't need to buy anatomy books. I went out to the library and found a book on animal anatomy, and stayed after work to copy all the pictures out of it. Of course, since you're 15 you might not have access to a copier like I do, but hey, 5-10 cents a copy won't kill you.

I actually have a copier built in my scanner so ha.

Thanks though! I really like this site and its users, it helps alot.

 

[StrainedEyes]

You should see artwork way before age 15 of mine.
I guess I do get better every year.
But dang you were great with the buildings! Nice pictures too!

I'm okay with buildings but you were great at that age. I have to study buildings better too. It's the windows and angles that get me all messed up.
How much anatomy did you study at that age?

Buildings are tricky, and it was only this year in my perspective class that I learned how to equally divide the windows. I'm still not fantastic at them, but all you need to do is look at a building and work off of it.

At that age i didn't study anatomy too thoroughly, i pretty much worked off of comics that I had, as well as random anatomy books that i had around. But i later really tried to hone things, and still have alot of work to do in terms of getting things right.

It's really only this year that I even started doing backgrounds for my work, apart from a few random ones (like above) it was all pretty much a figure on white paper.

Practice makes perfect.

 

[Anita18]

Buildings are tricky, and it was only this year in my perspective class that I learned how to equally divide the windows. I'm still not fantastic at them, but all you need to do is look at a building and work off of it.

I'm taking a perspective class now and it's so cool dividing things into thirds. You'd think it would be hard, but it's actually really easy.

Buildings aren't too hard if you've figured out where the vanishing point is. A lot of designers actually use perspective grids since they can't be bothered to make one for every drawing they do (it's an industry secret, shhhh!).

 

[Vartha]

Don't forget WH practice practice practice, We are here to help, I do have a few things left over from the Kubert School that may be of some use, I just have to find them. I just had them out last month.
Don't get discourged, I'm 45 and I do my best art painting or wood carving, and I'm impressed by alot of the people on this board. Keep it up, you've gotten better over the last few months.
I got a letter from Jim Shooter once saying hold on to your drawings and go back every few months and apply what you've learned to specific drawings, use the old drawings as a rough in other words. You'll be amazed how much you learn.

 

[Anita18]

For my last 5 drawings or so I've been using the "ball and stick" method. I can't draw without using that anymore. Before I could never do that right, for the past few months I've used it and it works better.

I found that the ball-and-stick method only works when I have trouble visualizing a pose, what the character should be doing, etc. Otherwise, I start directly by sketching out a cylinder for the torso or a elongated sphere for the head. I've tried doing legs first, and it really, really doesn't work since my legs always end up huge and disconnected. (Many art teachers will have you start from the top down anyway.) The torso is a great place to start since it's the core of the body. Every other limb originates from it, so they all should connect back to the torso.

I like to work with cylinders since it gives me an idea of the mass. I can't just pretend to add mass later - I've got to start out with it.

 

[webhead731]

Thanks again guys.

How's this help with the anatomy? I know I'll re-draw it but I worked too long on this to just trash it away like worthless crap.
I mainly added it on HIS left shoulder. You see? I didn't spend much time there, if you think it helps, I'll go back and make it look better.