Highlander!

[TheCorpulent1]

Remember the Highlander cartoon series with Connor's descendant Quentin? Ramirez came back for that, too, even though that was set in some crazy, far future world.

 

[deathshead2]

Never saw it but I did see the video on sale one day didn't bother to pick it up sense it looked horrible.

 

[The Question]

Remember the Highlander cartoon series with Connor's descendant Quentin? Ramirez came back for that, too, even though that was set in some crazy, far future world.

Wait. That was Conner's descendant? Why the hell did the Immortal's come back?

 

[deathshead2]

Wait. That was Conner's descendant? Why the hell did the Immortal's come back?

Becasue its a cartoon and they can do that.

 

[wiegeabo]

Never saw it but I did see the video on sale one day didn't bother to pick it up sense it looked horrible.

I tried watching it. You made the right choice.

I mean, a mythology about Immortals that would take the essence of other Immortals through decapitation obviously would make a great cartoon in the U.S. What could go wrong with that?

I don't even remember a single sword fight. Quentin would just hold a sword while the another Immortal did the same and transferred his knowledge into Quentin so he'd learn enough to take down the evil dictator.

And they say television executives are idiots...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, they obviously had to tone the violence down a lot, which pretty much ruined the action. But I remember liking the characters. Granted, I was really young when I watched it.

 

[wiegeabo]

Granted, I was really young when I watched it.

That's why I watched it too. But they could of had Quentin fight bad Immortals and then demand they surrender their quickening when they lost or else (and fans would know what the 'or else' meant, even if the kids wouldn't). This would have balanced out with the good Immortals giving up their knowledge and probably made the show more interesting.

 

[deathshead2]

This just makes me want to make that highlander fan film. If I ever get around to it, it was going to be about a young highlander have some sword fights and stuff like that add some guns it wouldn't be great but I would do my best.

 

[Roughneck]

Remember the Highlander cartoon series with Connor's descendant Quentin? Ramirez came back for that, too, even though that was set in some crazy, far future world.

I vaguely remember it....I thought it was Connor himself........I know it made after Highlander 2 where they were still running on the idea that the Immortals were born on some other planet and as punishment they were sent to earth and were Immortal or soemthing ****ed up like that.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Immortals can get sick. They just can't die of it.

 

[wiegeabo]

No, they can't get sick. It was in the show. They can be poisoned, gassed, suffocated, and killed in a pretty much every way, but they never get ill. And if they could get a fatal disease, it would kill them. They'd just come back nice and healthy again.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Poisons, gasses and suffocation don't kill them either although it does have an effect. One of the episodes has an Immortal who drinks Absinthe which poisons and kills mortals.That was how Duncan tracked the guy down. Duncan also says that immortals can catch diseases but not die from them. Suffocation puts immortals into a kind of suspended animation. One woman survived from ancient Egypt in a sarcophagus that way.

 

[hippy fascist]

Well, I guess they just had the upper body strength necessairy to weild them. Since the immortals regenerate faster than normal, I guess they could also buld muscle mass more quickly. And really, if you can use a broadsword well, then you could cut a guy in half with one swing. Makes cutting the heat off easier. I doubt you'd be able to cut someone's head off with a rapier very easy. Hell, you'd have to saw it off with a rapier.

Also, as for the prize, I assumed that since it's aparantly the sum total of all the quickenings of every immortal who's ever died in the game, it gives the winner super mental powers (as it did with conner). Wether or not the immortality goes away is unknown, since the Conner winning the prize bit of the first film has been retconned into Conner simply getting revenge on the Kurgen for killing his best friend and raping his wife.

Kitana's require speed and accuracy where as broadsword's favour strength. If you are a skinny martial artist build like connor you want the fast accurate weapon. Larger bodybuilder types want power as wielding something smaller would be pointless since it's harder for them to fight with grace and finesse. It kind of makes sense

 

[GyLocke]

Poisons, gasses and suffocation don't kill them either although it does have an effect. One of the episodes has an Immortal who drinks Absinthe which poisons and kills mortals.That was how Duncan tracked the guy down. Duncan also says that immortals can catch diseases but not die from them. Suffocation puts immortals into a kind of suspended animation. One woman survived from ancient Egypt in a sarcophagus that way.

Yeah, but in Highlander the movie Connor can pretty much exist under water without needing to breath (as demonstrated when Ramirez throws him into the water.)

I say the comic should throw out the concept of Duncan, which was necessary for the series, but is quite stupid, and makes immortals too much of a common thing. (Two immortals in the same clan, when it supposed to be 1:1000000. It should be a big deal if one of them kills another, so we don't have dumb things like the police never finding a connection to Duncan's dozens of victims)

What they should do, is consider only parts of the first movie cannon: the rules, the lower number of Immortals, the flashbacks, and characters (cynical Connor, Ramirez, Kurgan, Rachel, Basil etc.).

Then use some elements of the TV series (Watchers, Methos, etc)

And finally use one element of the third movie: the very rare special abilities that you can get by offing special immortals (like the illusion magic of Kane)

Keep some homages to other installments (mention of Kell, or the idea of a shield against solar radiotion and stuff)

This way you get the best of all worlds and have a world rich enough to support an ongoing for decades.

 

[War Lord]

No, they can't get sick. It was in the show. They can be poisoned, gassed, suffocated, and killed in a pretty much every way, but they never get ill. And if they could get a fatal disease, it would kill them. They'd just come back nice and healthy again.

The only way to kill an immortal is to cut off their head. All other methods don't cause them to stay dead.

 

[War Lord]

Yeah, but in Highlander the movie Connor can pretty much exist under water without needing to breath (as demonstrated when Ramirez throws him into the water.)

I say the comic should throw out the concept of Duncan, which was necessary for the series, but is quite stupid, and makes immortals too much of a common thing. (Two immortals in the same clan, when it supposed to be 1:1000000. It should be a big deal if one of them kills another, so we don't have dumb things like the police never finding a connection to Duncan's dozens of victims)

What they should do, is consider only parts of the first movie cannon: the rules, the lower number of Immortals, the flashbacks, and characters (cynical Connor, Ramirez, Kurgan, Rachel, Basil etc.).

Then use some elements of the TV series (Watchers, Methos, etc)

And finally use one element of the third movie: the very rare special abilities that you can get by offing special immortals (like the illusion magic of Kane)

Keep some homages to other installments (mention of Kell, or the idea of a shield against solar radiotion and stuff)

This way you get the best of all worlds and have a world rich enough to support an ongoing for decades.

Duncan and Conner were also 100 years apart, so it's not as though they were next door to each other.

 

[War Lord]

It's worth it, especially once you get past the first episodes. (Season 6 could have been better too. They only did half a season, and the episodes were pretty much introductions to Immortals for a possible spinoff).

You just sort of have to gloss over the fact that the end of the Highlander movie wasn't really the prize (even though Duncan appears and they make mention of him killing Kurgan).

I hated the Raven.

While I could watch Highlander repeatedly, I couldn't watch Raven more than once.

 

[War Lord]

No, I mean, why is it better that we don't know?

Because it adds to the mystique.

Do you sit their and quiz your friends about their ancestry as far back as possible and, yet demand more or do you enjoy them because they exist?

How would it improve the series to find out how they came to be?

I honestly can't think of how knowing that immortals were really aliens, or flukes of geneaology, or creations of God, or any other possible scenario would add to the show.

 

[War Lord]

Wait. They're all orphans? I thought their parents were mentioned a few times. Hell, wasn't there a young immortal who called him mom on the phine right before he got beheaded?

The tv show made it clear that every immortal was adopted by their parents.

 

[GyLocke]

Duncan and Conner were also 100 years apart, so it's not as though they were next door to each other.

If you look at it that way, it kinda is. The immortals existence has been a secret from the beginning of time. That means there had to be only a very few of them. One in a million, like Ramirez said.

Also, one day, there's supposed to be only one of them, so fewer and fewer immortals supposed to be born, till one day, there's no more coming.

So two immortals from the same clan, with only 100 years between them has barely better chances, then they're living next door to each other.

Also, if they can use Connor for the comic, there's no need for Duncan.

The tv show made it clear that every immortal was adopted by their parents.

I didn't like that either. According to the show there were hundreds of immortals. Maybe more. And all of them just appeared somewhere, and got adopted? I thought that element was added not to completely contradict Highlander 2.

 

[War Lord]

Yep. They're all orphans. Although, with that in mind, it kind of makes you wonder why there aren't a hell of a lot more Immortals who are stuck as babies. Seriously, I'm supposed to believe that there was never an Immortal baby who ended up in a dumpster or a toilet stall and died their first death from starvation or disease or something?

They were probably put out of their misery by other immortals.

However, considering that every immortal that was shown in the tv or first movie had parents, it's quite likely that the foundlings were placed near where they would be found.

 

[War Lord]

I don't think disease will constitute a first death. Only a violent death, like being crushed or stapped or drowned or hung or beaten to death or burned alive or something like that. I think disease counts as a natural death, which wouldn't cause an immortal's immortality to activate.

I think the tv show made it fairly explicit that it had to be a violent death. If I remember correctly, and I did watch it more than a few times, it was mentioned that potential immortals who died of natural causes stayed dead.

 

[War Lord]

If you look at it that way, it kinda is. The immortals existence has been a secret from the beginning of time. That means there had to be only a very few of them. One in a million, like Ramirez said.

Also, one day, there's supposed to be only one of them, so fewer and fewer immortals supposed to be born, till one day, there's no more coming.

So two immortals from the same clan, with only 100 years between them has barely better chances, then they're living next door to each other.

Also, if they can use Connor for the comic, there's no need for Duncan.

If immortals are placed purposely, as opposed to just randomly dropped off, than it makes a level of sense to place them where other immortals have been placed before to help ensure that they get to adulthood.

I didn't like that either. According to the show there were hundreds of immortals. Maybe more. And all of them just appeared somewhere, and got adopted? I thought that element was added not to completely contradict Highlander 2.

It may have been a way of trying to solve inconsistencies, but it works.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If you look at it that way, it kinda is. The immortals existence has been a secret from the beginning of time. That means there had to be only a very few of them. One in a million, like Ramirez said.

Also, one day, there's supposed to be only one of them, so fewer and fewer immortals supposed to be born, till one day, there's no more coming.

So two immortals from the same clan, with only 100 years between them has barely better chances, then they're living next door to each other.

Also, if they can use Connor for the comic, there's no need for Duncan.

I don't see the problem. There have been trillions of people or more throughout Earth's history. At the moment, there are probably what, a few thousand immortals scattered throughout the entire world's population of 6 billion people? They're still rare. Also, consider that there are those like Connor, who clearly try to stay out of the Game as much as possible and just enjoy their existence in peace. Unless evil immortals hunt them down, they're going to survive for a very, very long time.

The #0 comic was a prequel that takes place shortly after the first movie's end, so Connor's still alive. As far as I know, the people behind Highlander seem to be basing the current continuity on the first movie (minus Connor's winning the Prize), the TV series, maybe the third movie, and the fourth movie. That would make Connor dead in current continuity.

 

[GyLocke]

I don't see the problem. There have been trillions of people or more throughout Earth's history. At the moment, there are probably what, a few thousand immortals scattered throughout the entire world's population of 6 billion people? They're still rare. Also, consider that there are those like Connor, who clearly try to stay out of the Game as much as possible and just enjoy their existence in peace. Unless evil immortals hunt them down, they're going to survive for a very, very long time.

The #0 comic was a prequel that takes place shortly after the first movie's end, so Connor's still alive. As far as I know, the people behind Highlander seem to be basing the current continuity on the first movie (minus Connor's winning the Prize), the TV series, maybe the third movie, and the fourth movie. That would make Connor dead in current continuity.

In the start of the series they said the Gathering has started, Immortals are coming to America for the final fight.
Then they've abanadoned it soon, with him hanging in Paris, meeting dozens of immortals, fighting a demon, watchers and whatnot. Nothing indicated that the final fight is coming. I don't want that for the comics. I really want only a few dozen of them still alive, and preparing for the Gathering.

Did the #0 feature Duncan?

Did