Highlander!

[War Lord]

I'm talking about the fact that these guys are warriors and yet he looks like a freakin' model. I'd have thought he'd pick up some non-fatal scars like a broken nose etc. Although this may been explained at some point in the show, never watched it regularly just dipped in and out

Once they become immortal, they don't scar and any injuries heal up perfectly. Any permanent scars that exist are the ones that they get prior to immortality.

The only injury that is permanent is when they lose body parts.

 

[GyLocke]

They don't scar and any injuries heal up perfectly, unless they lose a body part.

Except on the neck. If the cut is deep enough.

 

[War Lord]

Except on the neck. If the cut is deep enough.

I consider the head a body part.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, like that opera singer who got f***ed over in the TV series.

 

[The Question]

Actually, if the cut is deep enough, it will scar. But breaks and regular gets probably wouldn't leave any marks.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But there is no "the Highlander continuity"

There are at least 5 highlander continuities. (Highlander 1, 2, 3 (Highlander 1 with one small modification), cartoon, tv-series, books) The comics seem to be a 6th one, that have elements from most of them.

You can see I try to convince myself, Endgame never happened. Connor Freaking McLeod stepping aside, quitting, and letting his "Little TV-show Brother" cut off his head and take his force and eventually the Prize is the equal if what you guys would feel if Peter Parker raped Aunt Man to death.

Highlander is one of the three fictional characters I can work up myself about.

Yeah, there are multiple continuities, but the one that Highlander 1 (with modifications), the TV series, and Endgame are part of seems to be the "official" one, as much as there is one, since that's what they're basing the next movie on. For the time being, that's the Highlander continuity. Maybe someone who loves Connor as much as you do will come along and take Endgame out, but for the time being it looks like Duncan's got Connor's Quickening and is moving on. I don't really mind it. As Harlekin noted, Connor was the recluse who wanted nothing to do with the Game. Duncan's the more heroic one who found himself getting actively involved in the Game as a means of helping others.

 

[War Lord]

Actually, if the cut is deep enough, it will scar. But breaks and regular gets probably wouldn't leave any marks.

Oh that's right. I forgot about Kalas.

 

[The Question]

And the Kurgen. He's got a scar on his throat from when Ramirez tried to behead him and failed.

 

[War Lord]

And the Kurgen. He's got a scar on his throat from when Ramirez tried to behead him and failed.

I only saw the first movie once and so I wasn't aware of that.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Clancy Brown's natural voice, although awesome, isn't really like that.

 

[GyLocke]

Yeah, there are multiple continuities, but the one that Highlander 1 (with modifications), the TV series, and Endgame are part of seems to be the "official" one, as much as there is one, since that's what they're basing the next movie on. For the time being, that's the Highlander continuity. Maybe someone who loves Connor as much as you do will come along and take Endgame out, but for the time being it looks like Duncan's got Connor's Quickening and is moving on. I don't really mind it. As Harlekin noted, Connor was the recluse who wanted nothing to do with the Game. Duncan's the more heroic one who found himself getting actively involved in the Game as a means of helping others.

I know. And don't get me wrong, I even liked the show. It's just, the whole point of Connor's character was "Who wants to live forever". Life eternal broke that guy (especially his realtionship to Heather), like it would break anybody. But he still went to kick some nazi ass, and adopted a little girl who lost everything, even though he knew too well how bad is it to see someone age next to him, and eventually die.

I felt Duncan's character was a little more cartoony as the mistery solving, happy-go-lucky, womanizing hero. But I can see how it can be more appealing to some fans (I even though the creators were very clever with Tessa and her death)

On another note, I don't agree with Connor wanted nothing to do with the game.

I think for him, stopping the Kurgan from gaining the Prize, and unleash darkness on humanity was the only thing that kept him going.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I suppose I just identify with Duncan more because he's had so much longer to become a well-developed character. The fact that Connor had to be dragged back into the Game kicking and screaming in every movie grated on me, and I started to view him as a petulant child who couldn't see the obvious truth about his destiny right in front of him. Hopefully the comic will give Connor the chance to grow into just as deep and rich a character as Duncan got to be after six seasons.

 

[GyLocke]

Also, since we're talking Highlander series, and interesting fact:

# Archangel" was to be a cliffhanger setting up Season 6. After Duncan kills Richie, he retreats to a monastery for 20 years. Season 6 picks up after those 20 years and Ahriman has gotten control of most of the world. There is a rebellion. Joe and Methos find Duncan in the monastery and talk him into getting back into the fight. Season 6 was to be about that fight. Apparently, Adrian Paul wanted less involvement in Highlander so he could pursue his movie career. So a new more truncated ending to the series was done.

A post apocalyptic Highlander with Duncan would've been awsome.

 

[War Lord]

Yeah, Clancy Brown's natural voice, although awesome, isn't really like that.

Kurgan: [smiling] Mom...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Also, since we're talking Highlander series, and interesting fact:



A post apocalyptic Highlander with Duncan would've been awsome.

They kind of reused bits and pieces of that plot for Endgame with Sanctuary. It would've been cool to see it in TV form, though. Too bad Paul wanted to go work on his non-existent movie career instead.

 

[GyLocke]

I suppose I just identify with Duncan more because he's had so much longer to become a well-developed character. The fact that Connor had to be dragged back into the Game kicking and screaming in every movie grated on me, and I started to view him as a petulant child who couldn't see the obvious truth about his destiny right in front of him. Hopefully the comic will give Connor the chance to grow into just as deep and rich a character as Duncan got to be after six seasons.

In the first movie, he didn't need THAT much. He was just kind of scared from Clancy Brown, but again, who isn't. Duncan had his monostery trips as well.

The sequels are pretty much garbadge though. But yeah, I hope more Connor character building, but i've just read issue 0, and Connor is awfully chatty in it.

I just hope they don't make him a Connor/Duncan hybrid.

 

[deathshead2]

ahhh Clancy Brown great actor also has a great voice.

 

[deathshead2]

Also I remember reading that Conner is supposed to start acting weird because after killing Kurgan his evil is sort of affeting him in some way. And they going to show that in the comic.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Really? That's more evidence that they're counting the TV series as canon for the comic, then. The idea of a Dark Quickening originated in the TV series.

In the first movie, he didn't need THAT much. He was just kind of scared from Clancy Brown, but again, who isn't. Duncan had his monostery trips as well.

The sequels are pretty much garbadge though. But yeah, I hope more Connor character building, but i've just read issue 0, and Connor is awfully chatty in it.

I just hope they don't make him a Connor/Duncan hybrid.

Yeah, that could be a problem. But if Duncan is supposed to appear in the series himself, that should help. They might end up in a buddy cop situation, where the differences in their personalities are magnified by each other's presence.

 

[wiegeabo]

I know. And don't get me wrong, I even liked the show. It's just, the whole point of Connor's character was "Who wants to live forever". Life eternal broke that guy (especially his realtionship to Heather), like it would break anybody. But he still went to kick some nazi ass, and adopted a little girl who lost everything, even though he knew too well how bad is it to see someone age next to him, and eventually die.

I felt Duncan's character was a little more cartoony as the mistery solving, happy-go-lucky, womanizing hero. But I can see how it can be more appealing to some fans (I even though the creators were very clever with Tessa and her death)

On another note, I don't agree with Connor wanted nothing to do with the game.

I think for him, stopping the Kurgan from gaining the Prize, and unleash darkness on humanity was the only thing that kept him going.

I'd have to agree. I always saw Conner as someone who was never the same after Heather died. She was his one true love, and her death put him into a depression he never really got out of. He'd have a few years of happiness, but in the long run, the Game just wore him down.

Getting the prize after the first movie gave him the relief he needed. But since that 'didn't happen,' by the time Endgame rolled around, he was tired. Tired of the Game, tired of the lonliness, just tired of life. The only thing that had kept him going was stopping evil Immortals like Kurgan. And since he knew that Duncan would be willing and able to continue the fight, he gladly gave him his Quickening so that he could finally rest.

 

[herakles]

Even though Ramirez mysteriously returns in the second movie.

As for the sword question, yes, a rapier sucks for cutting heads off, but it's so much faster than a broadsword that you could probably bring the other Immortal to a "normal" death really easily while they're flailing around like an idiot, then take their broadsword off their defenseless near-corpse and cut off their head with that.

Highlander 2 and 3 are a REAL sequels to Highlander 1. Highlander endgame is basically Adrian Paul's tv version of the fanchise IMO Also I hear the is new movie being filmed in Prauge called Highlander "Origins". I used to watch the tv series all the time, hell I even drove up to LA for comic con to get Paul's autograph.

In the first 3 movies it seemed to me that the Immortals were superior physically and mentally to mortals but in the tv series it was like they were just humans at peak condition?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I never got the idea that immortals were physically superior to mortals. The Kurgan was kind of a special case who was just naturally gi-f***ing-normous, the immortals were aliens in 2, which no longer counts, and in 3 the evil immortals knew some magic.

 

[GyLocke]

All this talk made me rend the Highlander. Watching it right now.

I have to say the movie's world is a lot darker than what the series had.

Even the Kurgan is kind of sad. In the first scenes, he is a barbarian, but also a cold, calculating strategist. (Staging a whole battle, to safely approach the rookie Connor, just to be sure.) He's slightly crazier when he fights Ramirez.

In modern days, he is a goddamn psychopath, probably because he's so out of place in our world. He's a savage warrior, who used to run with Attila the hun. I bet if it wasn't for the Prize, he would've killed himself a long ago.

Also, it had some real world sensitivites and attention to detail, that the series lacked for some reason (I have no idea why, they had a lot more time to work on these things) like immortals living under fake identities (Russal Nash), and police actually investigating beheadings. I hope the comic will be the same.

 

[wiegeabo]

The show mentioned fake papers and identites a couple of times, just never really went into a lot of detail. Dunan would typically leave everything to his 'son', who also happened to be named Duncan, then would pop up later (sometimes a couple of decades later) and pretend he was his own son so he could 'inherit' the money and continue with a 'new' identity.

And there was an investigation or two (and that one cop in the first season who was always suspicious of Duncan, they never really went anywhere with him). But those were plots they only touched on a couple of times and otherwise glossed over.

 

[GyLocke]

The show mentioned fake papers and identites a couple of times, just never really went into a lot of detail. Dunan would typically leave everything to his 'son', who also happened to be named Duncan, then would pop up later (sometimes a couple of decades later) and pretend he was his own son so he could 'inherit' the money and continue with a 'new' identity.

And there was an investigation or two (and that one cop in the first season who was always suspicious of Duncan, they never really went anywhere with him). But those were plots they only touched on a couple of times and otherwise glossed over.

Yeah, you're right, I forgot about the "son thing".

I remember the investigations, but they were never about goddamn headless bodies. (And we saw Duncan just walk away after job well done a lot of times. The seacouver PD is probably payed by Watchers.)