Highlander!

[The Question]

In modern days, he is a goddamn psychopath, probably because he's so out of place in our world. He's a savage warrior, who used to run with Attila the hun. I bet if it wasn't for the Prize, he would've killed himself a long ago.

Probably. He's from a time and culture where everything was about the glorious victory of battle. Now, the only people like that are psychos and criminals.

 

[wiegeabo]

Probably. He's from a time and culture where everything was about the glorious victory of battle. Now, the only people like that are psychos and criminals.

And government officials.

...oh, wait. You already listed them.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, you're right, I forgot about the "son thing".

I remember the investigations, but they were never about goddamn headless bodies. (And we saw Duncan just walk away after job well done a lot of times. The seacouver PD is probably payed by Watchers.)

Yeah, I assumed the Watchers took care of things like the immortals' bodies. They're not supposed to get involved, but they also want to keep the immortals' existence a secret for fear of the panic it would create. Disposing of bodies seems like it would fall under their jurisdiction.

As for the murder investigation in the movie, the obvious explanation is that the Watchers didn't exist back then. But if you want to set it in canon, you could say that Connor's Watcher was just crappy or was indisposed and couldn't get to the body in time or something.

 

[GyLocke]

Yeah, I assumed the Watchers took care of things like the immortals' bodies. They're not supposed to get involved, but they also want to keep the immortals' existence a secret for fear of the panic it would create. Disposing of bodies seems like it would fall under their jurisdiction.

As for the murder investigation in the movie, the obvious explanation is that the Watchers didn't exist back then. But if you want to set it in canon, you could say that Connor's Watcher was just crappy or was indisposed and couldn't get to the body in time or something.

According to the Wikipedia, Thorton was the watcher for Kurgan. That explains why he considered immortals a menace.

 

[War Lord]

Yeah, I assumed the Watchers took care of things like the immortals' bodies. They're not supposed to get involved, but they also want to keep the immortals' existence a secret for fear of the panic it would create. Disposing of bodies seems like it would fall under their jurisdiction.

As for the murder investigation in the movie, the obvious explanation is that the Watchers didn't exist back then. But if you want to set it in canon, you could say that Connor's Watcher was just crappy or was indisposed and couldn't get to the body in time or something.

The watcher organization is almost as old as the immortals themselves. It's not unknown for watchers to get murdered from time to time though or perhaps that the police got there before the watchers could do anything.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I know, that's what I just said. By "didn't exist back then," I meant out here, on this side of the fourth wall. They were created for the TV show.

According to the Wikipedia, Thorton was the watcher for Kurgan. That explains why he considered immortals a menace.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Kurgan could convince anyone that immortals are a menace.

 

[The Question]

Would the public knowing of the existence of the immortals really cause a panic? I mean, it would definately weird people out, but I doubt it would cause mass hysteria.

 

[WeaponZ2]

Would the public knowing of the existence of the immortals really cause a panic? I mean, it would definately weird people out, but I doubt it would cause mass hysteria.

How would you feel if you found out vamps were real?

 

[hippy fascist]

****ing awesome, guilt free mascre!(killing the vamps that is, not as one)

 

[The Question]

How would you feel if you found out vamps were real?

Well, at first I'd be "Dude, holy ****." Then I'd be "That's pretty cool." Than I'd start to get worried, and try and reaserch what areas have bigger vampire populations. If I live in a vamp town (which, I'd enever been atacked perviously, I wouldn't expect), I'd start carrying around some anti vamp gear at night just in case, same way someone in inner city New York might carry around mace at night.

 

[WeaponZ2]

Hmmmmm....that back fired. And all and all was a weak argument on my part. I believe the PROVED existence of the immortals would cause panic and problems for the immortals.

 

[The Question]

The main problem with the vampire arguement is that unlike vampires, the immortals from Highlander don't have humans as a part of their natural diet. So, less to be afraid of.

 

[WeaponZ2]

The main problem with the vampire arguement is that unlike vampires, the immortals from Highlander don't have humans as a part of their natural diet. So, less to be afraid of.

But vampires are less threatning then the Immortals.

 

[The Question]

How so? As I said, vampires do (or are at least known to) eat people. Immortals tend to concentrait on one another. Even evil immortals tend to have other immortals as their top priorities. The Highlander Immortals may be harder to kill, but they also have less offensive capabilities. They don't have super strength or enhanced senses, or any of the mysytical abilities that vampires have in some of the myths.

 

[wiegeabo]

The way I see it, if existance of Immortals had been released, there would have been panic in the form of mob violence out of nothing but sheer human stupidity and fear. Groups of uninformed and ignorant (and racist bastards) would group together and hunt down the Immortals because they feared they were all evil, or just fear them because they are different.

People would be accused of being Immortals and hurt or killed to prove it.

Governments would try to capture Immortals to either use them and make them disappear for fear of disrupting the status quo.

The medical world would want to hold them, and poke, prod, and test them endlessly to find out their secrets.


Sure there would be a lot of people on the other side, helping and protecting the Immortals. But really, if the general population learned that the winner of the Prize could potentially rule the world, governments and massive groups will go all Thornton on the Immortal populaton.

 

[The Question]

Fair point. When I hear mass panic, I tend to think of rioting in the streets and general histeria. While the revealing of the immortals would cause problems, they wouldn't cause a War of the Worlds level of panick.

Also, don't forget, people who have been honing their combat skills for centuries, who are almost entirely indestructible, and who don't require food, water, or even air make very apealing candidates for soldier's work. Various governments would probably try and track them down and try to turn them into their own personal military elite.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Which would then create conflict between the military and the immortals, since no immortal's gonna want to be drafted into military service against his will. Many have chosen to serve throughout the centuries, but, as Captain America's proving in Civil War right now, devoting oneself to one's country and what basically amounts to indentured servitude are two very different animals.

And anyway, whether immortals caused a big panic or a little panic, the undeniable fact is that it would change the entire world's status quo. The Watchers would be as ill-equipped to predict the outcome of such a drastic change as we are right now, and that prospect alone is enough to make them want to keep the immortals secret, I imagine. The immortals themselves just want to be left alone, either to their own lives or to their pursuit of the Prize, without the fleeting laws of man getting in the way.

 

[GyLocke]

Well if vampires or immortals turned out to be real, I'm sure as hell would try to figure out a way, to utilize their ability to stop aging and heal from great injuries. They could help whole man kind make the next evoltuionary step, but all they do, is randomly suck blood or fightin each other. *******s.

 

[War Lord]

Would the public knowing of the existence of the immortals really cause a panic? I mean, it would definately weird people out, but I doubt it would cause mass hysteria.

People, by nature, do not like other people who are beyond the normal means of control and accountability.

If immortals existed, they'd naturally build up so much wealth and power that they'd be virtually gods on earth not bound by normal human means. They'd probably be fairly arrogant and callous by nature, because no matter what they did, they'd outlive their captors or situation.

 

[War Lord]

The way I see it, if existance of Immortals had been released, there would have been panic in the form of mob violence out of nothing but sheer human stupidity and fear. Groups of uninformed and ignorant (and racist bastards) would group together and hunt down the Immortals because they feared they were all evil, or just fear them because they are different.

People would be accused of being Immortals and hurt or killed to prove it.

Governments would try to capture Immortals to either use them and make them disappear for fear of disrupting the status quo.

The medical world would want to hold them, and poke, prod, and test them endlessly to find out their secrets.


Sure there would be a lot of people on the other side, helping and protecting the Immortals. But really, if the general population learned that the winner of the Prize could potentially rule the world, governments and massive groups will go all Thornton on the Immortal populaton.

Anybody who was an immortal couldn't stay in any one spot for more than 5 to 7 years, because people would get suspicious about a guy who looks exactly the same over that period of time.

 

[WeaponZ2]

How so? As I said, vampires do (or are at least known to) eat people. Immortals tend to concentrait on one another. Even evil immortals tend to have other immortals as their top priorities. The Highlander Immortals may be harder to kill, but they also have less offensive capabilities. They don't have super strength or enhanced senses, or any of the mysytical abilities that vampires have in some of the myths.

Highlander Immortals are more threatening to me on account of their lack of weakness. Precautions can be taken against vampires. Garlic, crosses, holy water, sun light, some cant even enter your house without being invited in. What is there to stop a Evil Highlander Immortal?
And to me vampires are just a bunch pale skinned, blood attics who go around at night looking for a fix. Maybe turn a few people over you know, but all and all their motives aren't as devious as those of a evil Immortal out to win a prize that puts them on the level of a demi-god.

 

[The Question]

Some vampires are very devious. Some are serial killers who get a kick out of mass murder. You can't say that vampires aren't as bad as evil immortrals, because good immortals aren't as bad as evil vampires. And vampires have a much more predatory nature than immortals. Immortals don't eat people, as I said.

 

[GyLocke]

Highlander Immortals are more threatening to me on account of their lack of weakness. Precautions can be taken against vampires. Garlic, crosses, holy water, sun light, some cant even enter your house without being invited in. What is there to stop a Evil Highlander Immortal?
And to me vampires are just a bunch pale skinned, blood attics who go around at night looking for a fix. Maybe turn a few people over you know, but all and all their motives aren't as devious as those of a evil Immortal out to win a prize that puts them on the level of a demi-god.

With Highlander 1 immortals like the Kurgan - Nothing. You ask them not to kill you very nicely. That's all you can do. I mean, damnit, Clancy Brown destroyed castles and houses just by clumsy dueling.

However, Highlander - the series immortals are pretty easy to kill. Bullets didn't even slow The Kurgan down, but in the series any chump can shoot them, knock them out and then cut their head off, since they're normal humans - except the ressurrection thing.

 

[deathshead2]

I want to see some immotals fight vamps that would be so cool see like a vamp/immortal hybrid or something now that would be unbeatable.

 

[The Question]

No. It would basically be an immortal with super strength who eats people.