Superman Returns Hints of "Son of Superman" ?
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KYLE RAYNER - GREEN LANTERN
SON OF SUPERMAN
HOMEWORLD: Earth
FIRST APPEARANCE:
SON OF SUPERMAN
(1999)
self titled (96 pages)
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION:
Height: unknown
Weight: unknown
Hair: black
Eyes: green
KNOWN RELATIVES: none
GROUP AFFILIATION: JLA
HISTORY:
Originally joining the JLA during its battles with the Star Conqueror and Know Man, KYLE RAYNER filled the legendary team's roster as Green Lantern, fighting side by side with the World's Greatest Super-Heroes. In the fifteen years since the disappearance of Superman, the world had become a very different place.
The JLA was now federally funded, with J'onn J'onnz, the Martian Manhunter, as the team's liaison to the government. The JLA's line up still included its core members, the Flash, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern and the Martian Manhunter, but unbeknownst to the rest of his teammates, the Martian Manhunter worked for Lex Luthor.
It was Luthor that had found Superman's Fortress of Solitude two years prior to his enemy's disappearance. Working with the United States government, Luthor plotted the elimination of the Man of Steel. The Kryptonian technology was now free to be mass produced. To the world at large, Superman was believed dead.
The public, and likely the government as well, would have been shocked to know Superman was still alive, a prisoner and source of experimentation for Lex Luthor. Over the years, Luthor had been using Superman's Kryptonian DNA, fashioning the drug known as "K" and was eventually able to give himself super human powers of flight, strength and invulnerability. Lex Luthor bargained with the Martian Manhunter to spare Superman's life for the shape-shifter's access to the JLA.
The influx of Kryptonian technology made Luthor even richer and his power base grew. Over the years, the division between the rich and poor became more pronounced. Those that had power were able to change the laws to further their own agendas.
Seeking to overthrow the status quo, the terrorist group called the Supermen appeared. Led by outlaws Pete Ross and Lana Lang-Ross, two of Clark Kent's friends from Smallville, the Supermen struck at targets of the rich and powerful. How much of the terrorist activities were truly performed by the Supermen and how much was fabricated by Lex Luthor has yet to be determined. The JLA was sent to oppose the Supermen but were regarded as ineffectual against the terrorists.
When a large solar flare erupted, Earth was bombarded with higher than normal levels of solar energy. This had a pronounced effect on Jonathan Kent, son of Clark Kent and Lois Lane. The solar energy awakened the younger Kent's superhuman powers and he learned soon after he was the Son of Superman.
The news of "Superman's Return" traveled quickly and it was not long before the Batman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern met with the son of Superman. The terrorist Supermen arrived shortly after with a surprise attack on the three JLAers and the kidnapping of Jon Kent. Away from the JLA, Pete Ross and Lana Lang were able to persuade young Kent to join them in freeing his father from a secret laboratory beneath the deserts sands of Arizona.
The true return of Superman was a staged media event. The JLA gathered for a press conference in Metropolis to announce the Man of Steel's return to their fold. Before any questions could be answered, the JLA was called to Florida's Gulf Coast where Green Lantern and Superman repelled a massive tidal wave.
Tensions grew within the JLA as Batman secretly uncovered Wonder Woman's connection to the Supermen. She had given them Amazonium, a metal that was used in the construction of their battle suits.
The Martian Manhunter, following the instructions of Lex Luthor, impersonated Superman and led an attack on the Statue of Liberty. By this time, Pete Ross had sold out the Supermen and used the battle suits to help discredit Superman.
Green Lantern and the Flash believed what they had seen, that Superman had apparently gone rogue. The mission to bring in Superman was voluntary. Green Lantern and the Flash readily agreed to it. Aquaman, though uncomfortable with the idea, joined them.
Bruce Wayne chose to support Superman and his son. The World's Finest Heroes returned to their original costumes and sought to convince their JLA comrades that Superman had been set up. The arrival of Wonder Woman turned the already tense meeting violent as she struck the Martian Manhunter.
The heroes faced each other as the Flash tried and failed to take Batman out of the fight. Aquaman and Wonder Woman battled while Green Lantern took on Superman's son. The ring wielder might have won his battle if he had not underestimated the younger Superman. Avoiding a thrown manhole cover, Green Lantern was prepared for it to ricochet off the corners of a building and strike him. Jon Kent went to confront Lex Luthor himself. The battle came to a halt when the Martian Manhunter's betrayal of Superman was revealed. Despite having given himself superhuman powers, Lex Luthor was defeated by Jon Kent.
The true story was never revealed to the world. All seven members of the JLA disbanded soon after, claiming they wished to devote more time to their families. It would not be long before a new membership would be announced by the government. Superman himself retired, giving his name over to his son.
Unfortunately, no other information is available regarding Green Lantern. [SON OF SUPERMAN]
OATH: unknown
CREATIVE TEAM:
Writers: Howard Chaykin & David Tischman
Penciller: J.H. Williams III
Inker: Mick Gray
Colorist: Lee Loughridge
Letterer: Kurt Hathaway
Editor: Andy Helfer
Assistant Editor: Jim Higgins
KNOWN APPEARANCES:
SON OF SUPERMAN
'mouse note -
While there's nothing in the story that makes mention of Green Lantern's secret identity as being Kyle Rayner, It's safe to assume he's Kyle. The membership of the JLA is the same as JLA (3rd series) # 1, and references events occurring in the "main timeline" DCU, such as Superman's battle with Doomsday and the loss of Aquaman's hand.
GREEN LANTERN © 2000 DC COMICS, INC. Profile copyright © 2000 Michael Bond
SON OF SUPERMAN
HOMEWORLD: Earth
FIRST APPEARANCE:
SON OF SUPERMAN
(1999)
self titled (96 pages)
PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION:
Height: unknown
Weight: unknown
Hair: black
Eyes: green
KNOWN RELATIVES: none
GROUP AFFILIATION: JLA
HISTORY:
Originally joining the JLA during its battles with the Star Conqueror and Know Man, KYLE RAYNER filled the legendary team's roster as Green Lantern, fighting side by side with the World's Greatest Super-Heroes. In the fifteen years since the disappearance of Superman, the world had become a very different place.
The JLA was now federally funded, with J'onn J'onnz, the Martian Manhunter, as the team's liaison to the government. The JLA's line up still included its core members, the Flash, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern and the Martian Manhunter, but unbeknownst to the rest of his teammates, the Martian Manhunter worked for Lex Luthor.
It was Luthor that had found Superman's Fortress of Solitude two years prior to his enemy's disappearance. Working with the United States government, Luthor plotted the elimination of the Man of Steel. The Kryptonian technology was now free to be mass produced. To the world at large, Superman was believed dead.
The public, and likely the government as well, would have been shocked to know Superman was still alive, a prisoner and source of experimentation for Lex Luthor. Over the years, Luthor had been using Superman's Kryptonian DNA, fashioning the drug known as "K" and was eventually able to give himself super human powers of flight, strength and invulnerability. Lex Luthor bargained with the Martian Manhunter to spare Superman's life for the shape-shifter's access to the JLA.
The influx of Kryptonian technology made Luthor even richer and his power base grew. Over the years, the division between the rich and poor became more pronounced. Those that had power were able to change the laws to further their own agendas.
Seeking to overthrow the status quo, the terrorist group called the Supermen appeared. Led by outlaws Pete Ross and Lana Lang-Ross, two of Clark Kent's friends from Smallville, the Supermen struck at targets of the rich and powerful. How much of the terrorist activities were truly performed by the Supermen and how much was fabricated by Lex Luthor has yet to be determined. The JLA was sent to oppose the Supermen but were regarded as ineffectual against the terrorists.
When a large solar flare erupted, Earth was bombarded with higher than normal levels of solar energy. This had a pronounced effect on Jonathan Kent, son of Clark Kent and Lois Lane. The solar energy awakened the younger Kent's superhuman powers and he learned soon after he was the Son of Superman.
The news of "Superman's Return" traveled quickly and it was not long before the Batman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern met with the son of Superman. The terrorist Supermen arrived shortly after with a surprise attack on the three JLAers and the kidnapping of Jon Kent. Away from the JLA, Pete Ross and Lana Lang were able to persuade young Kent to join them in freeing his father from a secret laboratory beneath the deserts sands of Arizona.
The true return of Superman was a staged media event. The JLA gathered for a press conference in Metropolis to announce the Man of Steel's return to their fold. Before any questions could be answered, the JLA was called to Florida's Gulf Coast where Green Lantern and Superman repelled a massive tidal wave.
Tensions grew within the JLA as Batman secretly uncovered Wonder Woman's connection to the Supermen. She had given them Amazonium, a metal that was used in the construction of their battle suits.
The Martian Manhunter, following the instructions of Lex Luthor, impersonated Superman and led an attack on the Statue of Liberty. By this time, Pete Ross had sold out the Supermen and used the battle suits to help discredit Superman.
Green Lantern and the Flash believed what they had seen, that Superman had apparently gone rogue. The mission to bring in Superman was voluntary. Green Lantern and the Flash readily agreed to it. Aquaman, though uncomfortable with the idea, joined them.
Bruce Wayne chose to support Superman and his son. The World's Finest Heroes returned to their original costumes and sought to convince their JLA comrades that Superman had been set up. The arrival of Wonder Woman turned the already tense meeting violent as she struck the Martian Manhunter.
The heroes faced each other as the Flash tried and failed to take Batman out of the fight. Aquaman and Wonder Woman battled while Green Lantern took on Superman's son. The ring wielder might have won his battle if he had not underestimated the younger Superman. Avoiding a thrown manhole cover, Green Lantern was prepared for it to ricochet off the corners of a building and strike him. Jon Kent went to confront Lex Luthor himself. The battle came to a halt when the Martian Manhunter's betrayal of Superman was revealed. Despite having given himself superhuman powers, Lex Luthor was defeated by Jon Kent.
The true story was never revealed to the world. All seven members of the JLA disbanded soon after, claiming they wished to devote more time to their families. It would not be long before a new membership would be announced by the government. Superman himself retired, giving his name over to his son.
Unfortunately, no other information is available regarding Green Lantern. [SON OF SUPERMAN]
OATH: unknown
CREATIVE TEAM:
Writers: Howard Chaykin & David Tischman
Penciller: J.H. Williams III
Inker: Mick Gray
Colorist: Lee Loughridge
Letterer: Kurt Hathaway
Editor: Andy Helfer
Assistant Editor: Jim Higgins
KNOWN APPEARANCES:
SON OF SUPERMAN
'mouse note -
While there's nothing in the story that makes mention of Green Lantern's secret identity as being Kyle Rayner, It's safe to assume he's Kyle. The membership of the JLA is the same as JLA (3rd series) # 1, and references events occurring in the "main timeline" DCU, such as Superman's battle with Doomsday and the loss of Aquaman's hand.
GREEN LANTERN © 2000 DC COMICS, INC. Profile copyright © 2000 Michael Bond
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DAMMIT, I HATE when I a making a post as the thread gets deleted, I lose everything I just typed.
GRRR. it was a long one two.
Any who, I guess it can go in here too.
Basically, there is no way the kid will work. If they DON"T make it Superman's it will seem like a cop out, namely ifthe kid is Richards from a previous relationship. It's liek, hey huge conflict, but it's resolved by just being a simple misunderstanding/assumption made by Clark.
Too weak of a resolution to such a huge issue for him.
If it IS Lois AND Richards, that may work, if Richard dies by Luthor, after some kind of heroic attempt. It can NOt be the final saving action of the movie though, that needs to be themain hero's work. Too often to stories get killed when some one ELSE saves the day instead of the hero. They can come in and do the big sacrifice that allows the hero to go on and finish the job, but they can not come in and just save the hero at the end.
IF the kid Is Superman's, audieces will just not accept it. It will kill the movie. Cliched and bad endings can ruin the greatest of movies.
It will make audiences groan to find out they made Superman have a kid.
HOWEVER, if, at the end, Richard dies, and Lois is left a single mother with Jason, and they DON"T reviele that the kid is Superman's, but maybe VERY slightly hint at it, like the pheonix was hinted at in the first X-men, and laterlead into him being Superman's kid in the sequel, THAT could work.
It gives the audiences time to accept it and it developes it, rather then making it seem like some gimmick. And that is all it will feel like if they make him Superman's kid in Returns. A cheep gimmick.
I could very well see it working if they made it carry on to the sequel. It would also add the dynamic before they find out that he is Superman's of what does he do now? He still loves Lois, but it was bad enough worrying about putting her in danger, now she has a child, one he believes is someone elses. There is NO way Superman can risk them both now with a relationship.
GREAT conflict there. And THAT would work with eventually finding out that he is Clarks kid. Just not with some huge powere revealing thingy, like lifting a piano.
More subtle things.
THIS I could see working.
But alas, I am still praying that the kid is just not Superman's
GRRR. it was a long one two.
Any who, I guess it can go in here too.
Basically, there is no way the kid will work. If they DON"T make it Superman's it will seem like a cop out, namely ifthe kid is Richards from a previous relationship. It's liek, hey huge conflict, but it's resolved by just being a simple misunderstanding/assumption made by Clark.
Too weak of a resolution to such a huge issue for him.
If it IS Lois AND Richards, that may work, if Richard dies by Luthor, after some kind of heroic attempt. It can NOt be the final saving action of the movie though, that needs to be themain hero's work. Too often to stories get killed when some one ELSE saves the day instead of the hero. They can come in and do the big sacrifice that allows the hero to go on and finish the job, but they can not come in and just save the hero at the end.
IF the kid Is Superman's, audieces will just not accept it. It will kill the movie. Cliched and bad endings can ruin the greatest of movies.
It will make audiences groan to find out they made Superman have a kid.
HOWEVER, if, at the end, Richard dies, and Lois is left a single mother with Jason, and they DON"T reviele that the kid is Superman's, but maybe VERY slightly hint at it, like the pheonix was hinted at in the first X-men, and laterlead into him being Superman's kid in the sequel, THAT could work.
It gives the audiences time to accept it and it developes it, rather then making it seem like some gimmick. And that is all it will feel like if they make him Superman's kid in Returns. A cheep gimmick.
I could very well see it working if they made it carry on to the sequel. It would also add the dynamic before they find out that he is Superman's of what does he do now? He still loves Lois, but it was bad enough worrying about putting her in danger, now she has a child, one he believes is someone elses. There is NO way Superman can risk them both now with a relationship.
GREAT conflict there. And THAT would work with eventually finding out that he is Clarks kid. Just not with some huge powere revealing thingy, like lifting a piano.
More subtle things.
THIS I could see working.
But alas, I am still praying that the kid is just not Superman's
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wouldnt it be funny that when lois is talking with superman on teh rooftop she told s him that the kid is from him. and the nshe says to him that since he was geon for so many years he can go and never come back. than at the end we see superman in pain and lois comes with jason in the hospital to help superman.
than after they want to use jasons blood the doctor comes in and says: i am sorry but the kid is not from superman. and then we see how superman dies.
than this dude comes in with a joer-el voice and takes superman back to the fortress:
wait a minute: is this not a smallville movie?
ok sorry for the joke. but wouldnt it be funny if lois would found out that jason is not supermans kid. wouldnt it be funny if this was teh twist of the movi? i am being completely serious here.
than after they want to use jasons blood the doctor comes in and says: i am sorry but the kid is not from superman. and then we see how superman dies.
than this dude comes in with a joer-el voice and takes superman back to the fortress:
wait a minute: is this not a smallville movie?
ok sorry for the joke. but wouldnt it be funny if lois would found out that jason is not supermans kid. wouldnt it be funny if this was teh twist of the movi? i am being completely serious here.
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I bought this book atleast a year back, it's decent but no where near the quality of superman: secret identity or Red son.
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It would be more of a twist/shock now................for the kid not to be Superman's.
Anybody thought that ?
Anybody thought that ?
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explode7 said:
It's possible that the kid isn't Lois'. The way that Jimmy said "Fearless reporter Lois Lane is a mommy" could suggest that Lois is playing mommy to Jason. I've known women that have dated men with children, and their friends tease them similarly. "Oh, look, she's a mommy now."
I'm wondering about something, though. If the kid isn't Superman's or Lois', why are they bothering with him in the first place? There's a decent chance that Lois will regain her feelings for Superman, or possibly gain feelings for Clark in this movie. That means she'll break up with Richard, and he'll take his kid and leave. So why bother with the kid?
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