Hiro to fight the T-Rex(really)

[AssMan]

The Haitian snuck up behind Claire and told her that it was important that she retain her memories despite the fact that her father has ordered him to mindwipe her

Maybe the Haitian is secretly working with one of the heroes or something. The Haitian seems to want to keep the cheerleader safe / save the cheerleader.

 

[Amphibatheatre]

Clear what? The haitian DIDN'T mindwiped her. She's just faking it, like an orgasm.

yeah, just wanted to make sure I wasn't wrong. I wasn't. Claire didn't have her mind wiped.

 

[Nebins]

Ok. Just skimmed the part where she is talking to the Haitian over at NBC"s rewind and when he tells her she is not supposed to remember Peter Petrelli it's because Claire wants to go visit him. The haitian tells her Peter is being watched because he knows that if she goes to see Peter that it will tip her father off that she wasn't mindwiped so he is reminding her of the things that she is not supposed to remember. So, no mindwipe for Claire.

I'll take your word for it. I liked my idea of her regenerative powers being the reason she is remembering. One question though, why does she tell Zach that she doesn't remember what happened that night if she is trying to convince him that he knew about her at one point?

 

[Amphibatheatre]

I'll take your word for it. I liked my idea of her regenerative powers being the reason she is remembering. One question though, why does she tell Zach that she doesn't remember what happened that night if she is trying to convince him that he knew about her at one point?

i'm going to have to say that Claire is simply being cautious about what she tells zach about Homecoming. You're right though. I just watched that part on the rewind and she does feign ignorance about that night when talking to Zach. Still, everything else in the episode pretty clearly implies that the Hatian didn't mindwipe her.

 

[Nebins]

Just another misleading plot point. Hopefully it'll be cleared up soon.

 

[Amphibatheatre]

Just another misleading plot point. Hopefully it'll be cleared up soon.

Well, at the point Zach asks about homecoming night Claire has yet to tell him "again" about her secret. He still has no idea about people with superpowers and the strange things going on. So, it makes sense that she simply says she doesn't remember. What is she going to tell him at that point that will make sense? First things first. Show him her regenerative powers and then tell him about homecoming. Nothing misleading about it.

 

[newwaveboy87]

Well, at the point Zach asks about homecoming night Claire has yet to tell him "again" about her secret. He still has no idea about people with superpowers and the strange things going on. So, it makes sense that she simply says she doesn't remember. What is she going to tell him at that point that will make sense? First things first. Show him her regenerative powers and then tell him about homecoming. Nothing misleading about it.

does this mean that Zack's gonna come out of the closet again too!? :heart:


oh wait....when the Haitian mindwiped him he also removed the part where Zack was a homosexual. but i'm not bitter about that. i swear.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

oh wait....when the Haitian mindwiped him he also removed the part where Zack was a homosexual. but i'm not bitter about that. i swear.

Nah, that's not a mind thing.

 

[gambitfire]

On the Jessic Nikki matter. Since someone (i dunno i was reading through the last pages) said something about it being weird that Nikki is using superstrenght.

Has it been mentioned or has anyone thought that Jessicas' power is to body swap, while Nikkis is superstrength; but while Jessica is in Nikkis' body she embraces Nikkis' ability?

- Oh and on the painting matter:

While there may have been a slight difference in the color of the sky in Peter's painting For the most part Issacs' paintings have the majority of the time been spot on.

So the sword beeing unseathed is a major deal, as well as the pose of the dino and even though still the background.

 

[ragdus]

I can't believe this is still even being debated. We saw the living interpretation of the painting.

 

[gambitfire]

I can't believe this is still even being debated. We saw the living interpretation of the painting.

Well, i disagree.....oh wait i'm sorry am i not allowed too?

 

[newwaveboy87]

Nah, that's not a mind thing.

i know, but it's the only conclusion i could come up with on how he went from obviously a *** to straight on the show.

 

[IAmHe9]

I just hope that if they have a T. Rex it won't look as bad as the one in A Sound Of Thunder.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Zach won't be gay anymore. His manager forced the producers to de-gay him:

Spoiler

Question: I watched the Heroes pilot again after Tim Kring told you someone from the opening minutes would soon die. Well, in the first 10 minutes, the main people are Mohinder, Peter, Simone, H.R.G., Niki/Jessica, Micah, Claire and Zach. I'm putting money on Simone or H.R.G. only because we saw Peter die, and that's too easy. Any odds?— Andrew

Ausiello: I can confirm that it's definitely one of the nine you listed. Actually, make that eight. We can rule out Zach (see below for more on that).


Question: How much longer is the character of Zach going to be on Heroes? When he was mind-wiped and forgot his friendship with Claire, it seemed like a natural opportunity for producers to resolve his story line and rid themselves of a problem actor. So I was disappointed when I tuned in to the Jan. 22 episode and saw actor Isaiah Wash — oops, I mean Thomas Dekker — still under their employ. Is Zach going to officially "come out" as straight on the show, or will his orientation remain a mystery until he leaves for his sure-to-be-canceled Terminator series on Fox?— John

Ausiello: Get this: Monday's episode was Dekker's — and Zach's — last. And let's not be so quick to blame Dekker. As I was recently made aware, his manager was one of several forces conspiring to "straighten up" Zach (one of which is very high up).

[BLACKOUT] Question: Have you seen the story on afterelton.com about the "de-gaying" of Heroes' Zach? Shameful.— C.J.
Ausiello: Yes, I've seen it, and it is indeed troubling on so many levels. For those in the dark, Claire's sexually ambivalent sidekick Zach (played by Thomas Dekker, the upcoming star of The Sarah Connor Chronicles) was supposed to come out in the "Homecoming" episode, but, according to a statement posted on afterelton.com by series creator Tim Kring, he was forced back into the closet after it became "too complicated behind the scenes to push this issue further with this particular character." Translation: Someone objected to the plot, and my sources tell me it was not NBC, but rather Dekker's camp that came down with a severe case of gay panic syndrome. In fact, rumor has it that Dekker's manager allegedly threatened to pull her client from the show unless the story was changed. Rather tellingly, that same manager promised to get back to me with a comment yesterday but never did. [/BLACKOUT]

 

[burning-robot]

I think at this point the writers no longer *have* to have Hiro fight a dinosaur. Having Hiro pull the sword on the fake dino is enough to fulfill the prediction. The writers *can* still have him fight a dino, by saying the first time didn't fulfill the prediction. It could go either way.

At this point I think the argument is whether people *want* him to fight a dinosaur. I personally don't want the show to get too out of reality.

 

[Mysterio]

dead cheerleader painting?
we all knew Claire wasn't going to die. you can't really kill an invincible cheerleader.

she's been "dead" once before. are you new to the series?

 

[Mysterio]

how could Jessica be a split personality if we've been shown that Jessica is a dead person? did the dead sister's spirit haunt Niki? is Jessica not the real one that's dead?

i must've missed a line about the Haitian telling her to fake the mindwipe.

the tattoo shows up on jessica's shoulder, but not on nikki's. and what's so hard to believe about jessica jumping into nikki's body right before her death? she said she did it while she was alive to protect nikki from her father's abuse.

 

[Mysterio]

No the Haitian definitely mindwiped Claire. When she said she wanted to see Peter Petrelli he said she wasn't supposed to remember him. Also when Claire was talking to Zach she said she didn't remember that night. Like I said before I think Claire's regenerative powers have something to do with her remembering.

the Haitian DID NOT mindwipe Claire. she's faking it, just like the Haitian told her to. heck, you just said so yourself "he said she wasn't supposed to remember him." as in, "no, dummy...you can't go asking about Petrelli because you're not supposed to know about him. if you do, then the jig is up."

 

[Mysterio]

Just another misleading plot point. Hopefully it'll be cleared up soon.

what's misleading about it? the Haitain said he wasn't going to mindwipe her because it's important that she remembers, so Claire fakes it. there isn't anything to clear up. either you just weren't paying attention, or you just didn't pick up on it.

 

[Nebins]

what's misleading about it? the Haitain said he wasn't going to mindwipe her because it's important that she remembers, so Claire fakes it. there isn't anything to clear up. either you just weren't paying attention, or you just didn't pick up on it.

The misleading plot point was about Claire telling Zach she didn't remember homecoming night. I went back and checked it out and yeah I get the Haitain didn't mind wipe Claire. But after a month of not watching the show you tend to forget single lines of dialogue so when it came back on and Claire says she doesn't remember I tend to think she doesn't remember. Anyway why would she tell Zach that she didn't remember homecoming night if she is trying to convince him they were friends and she has this ability? That's the misleading part.

 

[Mysterio]

The misleading plot point was about Claire telling Zach she didn't remember homecoming night. I went back and checked it out and yeah I get the Haitain didn't mind wipe Claire. But after a month of not watching the show you tend to forget single lines of dialogue so when it came back on and Claire says she doesn't remember I tend to think she doesn't remember. Anyway why would she tell Zach that she didn't remember homecoming night if she is trying to convince him they were friends and she has this ability? That's the misleading part.

it isn't misleading. as someone said above, she's being cautious. she's trying to feel him out.

 

[newwaveboy87]

she's been "dead" once before. are you new to the series?

no, i'm not new to the series, and she wasn't "dead." as soon as the stick was pulled out of her head she sprang back to life.

Zach won't be gay anymore. His manager forced the producers to de-gay him

i know, i was just talking about on the show. it's the only explaination i could come up with that would "make sense" in the storyline.

the tattoo shows up on jessica's shoulder, but not on nikki's. and what's so hard to believe about jessica jumping into nikki's body right before her death? she said she did it while she was alive to protect nikki from her father's abuse.

what's so hard to believe about that? that even for a show about people with powers that a dead person's spirit could come into someone else and harbor an alternate personality is slightly pushing the boundary for verissimilitude.

 

[He-Man]

no, i'm not new to the series, and she wasn't "dead." as soon as the stick was pulled out of her head she sprang back to life.

ummmm she was dead. When Peter healed himself when she was around he made a comment about dying. She told him "I've Died Before; It's No Big Deal"

 

[newwaveboy87]

if she's died before...how is she alive to say that?
there's a difference between being "dead" which she has done and being dead which she hasn't.

 

[Mysterio]

what's so hard to believe about that? that even for a show about people with powers that a dead person's spirit could come into someone else and harbor an alternate personality is slightly pushing the boundary for verissimilitude.

if you'll read my post, you'll see i said "before her death". she has alluded to previously occupying Nikki's body and coming forward so that Nikki wouldn't suffer abuse.

and yes..Claire was dead.

there's a difference between being "dead" which she has done and being dead which she hasn't.

really, now.