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Discussion in 'X-Men 1, 2 & 3' started by narrows101, May 18, 2006.
Gambit to similar to Nightcrawler??? Right there, I lose all respect for them
Well you sure took your time
How the heck is Gambit similar to Nightcrawler?
I love this woman...if it weren't for Lauren we wouldn't have gotten what we did these last six years.
Trenchcoat, which from what Ive seen on this board, is one of many gambit trademarks
"The women superheroes are as vital as the males. They're part of the world: I'd argue that Storm, Jean Grey, Kitty and Rogue are big Marvel action heroines."
She May have been speaking about Gambits scope and popularity and how much time would be needed to give him development with Beast and angel already being introduced.
Nightcrawler had some hefty scenes in X2.
other than that, I can't see how they're remotely similar
MRS. SHULER-DONNER was a mojor force in getting these movies made and her belief in the material was major factor in the movies success. I personally appreciate her respect for the material.
Before X-Men and Blade , everyone wrote comic movies off because of BATMAN and ROBIN.
If memory serves me correctly. Wasn't Donner the one that said Gambit would definately be in X2, and later she said the same thing about him in X3?
As for the Nightcrawler similarity. Well, Beast is more similar to Nightcrawler than Gambit is to him. He's blue, acrobatic, requires a lot of make-up and has sharp teeth...so I don't see where this comes from. Mind you, I've always wanted Beast in a movie, so I'm glad he's there.
I would not be surpised if there is a 4th that Singer will be back and Donner will still produce but maybe Avi Arad will be moved up to producer and Ralph Winter move on to the Fantastic Four series.
Oh please. I wonder if anybody bothers to actually check history before they make such claims.
The person who sweat blood and had to work hard to overcome odds and get this project noticed was Tom DeSanto, period. Lauren Shuller-Donner got involved AFTER this project was already being looked at to be prepped for production start. She knew next to nothing about the X-Men prior to X1. She's gone on record saying that she got involved because she fell in love with Wolverine; this was after DeSanto had already won Singer over and convinced him to approach Marvel. They had already worked out some story ideas and done outlines (which was what LSD had read and got her interested).
All of you are giving LSD way too much credit.
Edit: If by 'respect for the material' you mean she was a contributing factor in putting Wolverine up on a pedestal then yeah, by all means, appreciate her.
WHY be a Jerk?
I said She was " A" major force in getting the movies made. the article was about her, thus why i adressed her.
don't be as A$$.
Telling you my point of view doen't make me an ass.
If you don't want people to contradict you then maybe you shouldn't make innacurate statements.
Nothing inaccurate in my statements and BTW the way, the UNNESSESARY tone of your post makes you an A$$.
Also, you have to mention Tom De Santos as well, who probably has more passion for the franchise. Donner, from what I know, is more business orientated while De Santos is more creative.
Wait, so they didn't add Gambit because he was too 'similar' to Nightcrawler? If I had to pick someone, Gambit is closer to Logan. What? Didn't she want Gambit in X2 in her DVd commentary?
It's makes no sense. SO what's Gambit's status then? he can never be in the movies because of his similarities?
Then why have Kitty when Rogue is basically Kitty already? And who 'begged' for Kitty? I'm not bashing Kitty, I'm just showing off the contridictions presented in her quote.
we all know that tom desanto was the heart of the process. but even though shuler-donner is an idiot, kevhulk's statement was still accurate. she may have faltered in her belief in the franchise when x1 was coming out, but she's a producer, not a fanboy. for her, it's money that's at stake. however, that doesnt take away from the fact that she was integral in making these movies.
as for you being an a$$...maybe you should read your post again. "oh please". if that's you nicely stating your opinion...
Like what I said Donner is the business end, while De Santos is more creative.
Thanks for addressing and backing up the point of my post.
Yes indeed... im hoping people like her kept the glue together for this project.
How was Endeavor being an ass? He was just stating his opinion.
They didn't have Gambit because he was too similar to Nightcrawler!!!
All I have to say is.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
It's hard to know the full history of the film franchise, but I'd read that Lauren Shuler Donner was involved almost from the start. She employs people to look for suitable projects and they brought X-Men to her. Bryan Singer was brought in later and then Ralph Winter. In interviews, LSD has said that she tends to be more involved in the creative side, like the script and casting and Ralph Winter tends to be the one writing the checks and dealing with the day-to-day stuff but they both do a bit of both.
I've never worked out Tom De Santo's role in the business. He has an executive producer credit which can mean anything from being a business partner of one of the creative team, to overseeing the project on behalf of the studio. He may have been an important part of the project or just a hanger on.
Oh yeah and from the dvds Ralph Winter knew a bit about the feel of singers x films and hes producing for x3. I noticed both were returning and had a little hope.