Comics How could Marvel convince you an X-Man was "really, really dead"?

[gambitfire]

It was a reuse of thunderbirds body...

 

[Galact-Gal]

Well, as far as I know, nobody's head has been chopped off yet. That would be pretty convincing.

Xorn/Magneto--who apparently is now a disembodied consciousness, i.e. still alive.

 

[Max J Power]

I don't think they could.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

How could Marvel convince you an X-Man was "really, really dead"?

They couldn't. That goes for all Marvel characters, except Uncle Ben, Captain Stacy and Gwen Stacy. The thing is, these comics are always changing creative teams. Whilst one writer may kill, say Psylocke, and intend her to be dead for good, all it takes is for the next writer to want her back and she's back.

It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond a joke now. I'd rather see a character cloned or someone else take up their superhero identity than return from the grave. If a character is dead they should stay dead (except Superman, the death thing works for him). If a writer wants to use a dead character, write a story set before they died.

 

[thewhitequeen]

To be honest I'm not sure I would want any main character to die permenently. I mean, can anyone seriously imagine a Marvel Universe where Jean Grey wasn't EVER coming back?

 

[ghost113]

kill the character off and never mention him or her again not by characters in the books or by any writers or artists.

 

[thewhitequeen]

kill the character off and never mention him or her again not by characters in the books or by any writers or artists.

That doesn't make sense. In the "real" world people often mention their friends/loved ones who have died. The writers would have to find a way to make it clear that when the characters mention their deceased friends/teammates they do it in a way that is not ominous or does not sound like it is hinting at future plotline.

 

[ghost113]

i mean yeah mention them for some time and after awhile slowly stop mentioning them.

 

[thewhitequeen]

Too true. I think marvel would have to release a public statement that so-and-so was dead and would stay dead. I also agree with whoever before said that the character would have to die in some "human way." A heart attack or lung failure or something.

 

[ghost113]

yeah, the character can't die in battle or by sacrificing him or herself to save someone else or being kidnapped and crucified on the front of the X-lawn.

 

[GL1]

If a character died in an odd way, like in their sleep out of the blue, that'd be funny, and I'd be prone to hope it might stick. It probably wouldn't.

If a character's death involved some real world issue, a hurricane in Lousiana, a plane hitting a building, sacrificing himself to kill Osama. I'd be inclined to think that death might actually stick.

Of course, if it's a new characters, especially one created to die, I tend to think that that might stick. Really unpopular characters that have been in limbo since their creation also fall into this category. Unless their intro is REALLY REALLY well written, they may just stay dead.

But honestly, there has to be a REAL-WORLD reason that no writer would ever bring a certain character back.

 

[thewhitequeen]

But honestly, there has to be a REAL-WORLD reason that no writer would ever bring a certain character back.

Like what? Like the character is too controvertial or something?

 

[GL1]

Like what? Like the character is too controvertial or something?

Y'know, that's what I was thinking, but when you put it that way, I wouldn't even believe that now. Controversey gets old, after all...

 

[thewhitequeen]

Y'know, that's what I was thinking, but when you put it that way, I wouldn't even believe that now. Controversey gets old, after all...

Besides, people love the controversey.