Sequels How do want your X-Men movies?

[DMRadz]

I personally like the grounded, more realistic versions. The way I see it, if it's taking place on Earth, in our current time period, and our clothing style, the setting of the movie should reflect that.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

We had "grounded" X-men movies. Now it's time to see dream-like X-men movies that aren't ashamed to be comic book movies. With astral planes, flying Rogue, multiple sentinels attacking the mansion, time traveling heroes like Cable and Bishop, and Apocalypse.

 

[BMM]

I prefer a happy medium. Start grounded and become more fantastical with each installment. That said, there is some fantastical crap that I don't expect to see onscreen. For instance, I like Inferno and The Age of Apocalypse, but I don't need or want to see bigscreen translations of those storylines. They wouldn't work. Half of the fantastical crap doesn't even work in the books let alone in a movie. I can deal with something like the sentinels, but the second I see Lilandra and her goofy Shi'ar empire onscreen, I'm done.

 

[Majik1387]

Medium rare

 

[marukisu]

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[Deaths Head II]

I agree with a happy medium. Something that feels like a superhero film but isn't completely ridiculous. I personally wouldn't mind some Sci-Fi elements but I can do without most of the mystical stuff. The 80s X-Men just got really too weird for me because of that.

 

[Chris Wallace]

 

[X-Maniac]

Start realistic and then expand the universe. Which is kinda what they are/were doing anyway.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I don't agree that the X-Men films are embarrassed by their comic book roots; just b/c they don't incorporate alien empires or giant robots doesn't mean the series has forgotten the source material. It's not "Wanted".

 

[Deaths Head II]

They're afraid to stick them in costumes because that would end up making the movies feel too much like superhero movies. I'd say that's a sign of embarrassment.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I don't think so. I think it's because the various colored tights & clashing designs would make it look something like Mardi Gras.
Look at the X-Men's costumes. All the bright colors-none of them matching. some have masks, some don't. Some have sleeves, some don't. Many don't even depict any sort of theme & have accessories that serve no real function. Plus, the X-Men aren't a rag-tag bunch of solo heroes with identities to protect. They're a team. More than that, they are a family; closer to the FF than the Avengers or the JLA. They exist to protect innocent mutants from overzealous humans, & to protect innocent humans from overzealous mutants. They aren't like Superman or Spider-Man, who are defined by their costumes. Wolverine is Wolverine no matter what he's wearing, as demonstrated by the numerous time she's gone into action in just jeans & a T-shirt. Truth be told, yellow tights, blue trunks & a mask really don't fit his personality. It looks cool on paper but would look ridiculous on a real, live human being. (Don't get me started on Magneto; a 60+ year-old man in red & purple spandex?)Plus, it's not like the costumes were totally aborted; they gave way to a more practical team uniform, which makes sense. Again, more in the spirit of the FF. As compared to-again, Wanted, which made NO effort to capture the look & feel of the comic whatsoever.

 

[BMM]

Perhaps they should stick the X-Men in their original dark navy (almost black) outfits with a yellow stripe, gloves, and boots and absolutely no variation at all. That way their uniforms can be both comic book accurate and a giant 'f--- you' to the people who complain about the dullness of the current uniforms.

 

[Abaddon]

No mystical stuff, space aliens, alternate realities, or time travel. Leave that stuff to tv.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I don't think so. I think it's because the various colored tights & clashing designs would make it look something like Mardi Gras.

I strongly doubt thats the reason. If it was they wouldn't be hesitant of giving masks to characters even when it makes sense, like Deadpool who doesn't have to conform to a uniform code and has a reason for wearing his mask.

And I find it funny you say the X-Men characters aren't defined by their costumes and then say Magneto, a man defined by his costume, looks ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised if the studio felt the same way, that he felt too much like a silly super villain. Seeing as they probably were embarassed that this is a superhero movie and everything.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I think they ditched the DP mask as he would've been the only member of the team wearing one. And it's not the only area of the storyline in which they've taken liberties when it suits the purpose of the film. Stryker is a military scientist rather than a preacher, Trask is a Cabinet member rather than an evil Stark, Deathstrike is a mutant rather than a cyborg. As for Magneto, he only requires a helmet & cape. The rest is negotiable. And as a longtime hater of ANY costume design that involves trunks, yes, I say his bodysuit is for the most part ridiculous. Come on. Do you REALLY want to see a man McKellan's age dressed in THIS?

And I don't care what you say; this only looks good on paper.

Again, there's a huge difference between what you can draw & what a real person can pull off.
And seriously, can ANYONE look cool in this?

You purists tickle me. Hollywood has been bending the costume rules for 20 years because they know that this

works a lot better than this.

And I seriously doubt the rainbow X-uniforms would have gone over the way you like to think.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Deadpool is an espionage agent while with Team X and later on he gets scarred so he covers his face. It makes perfect sense for him to wear a mask. They just didn't want to give him one.

And I actually find McKellen's look in the film to not be much less goofier then the comic look. The design of his helmet in the films has always made his head look small to me.

And Toad's getup was never meant to be cool. Toad was always a joke to Magneto so he gave him a joke get up.

And obviously some X-Uniforms would work better then others. The Astonishing outfits for example would work much better then the 1980s get ups.

 

[Marvin]

after terminator salvation, i think they should give sentinels another go

 

[Chris Wallace]

"After"? You haven't seen TS yet!
And if anything, that's a reason not to do it!

 

[Chris Wallace]

Deadpool is an espionage agent while with Team X and later on he gets scarred so he covers his face. It makes perfect sense for him to wear a mask. They just didn't want to give him one.

And I actually find McKellen's look in the film to not be much less goofier then the comic look. The design of his helmet in the films has always made his head look small to me.

And Toad's getup was never meant to be cool. Toad was always a joke to Magneto so he gave him a joke get up.

And obviously some X-Uniforms would work better then others. The Astonishing outfits for example would work much better then the 1980s get ups.

They also didn't disfigure Deadpool, so clearly they're going a different route.
Where Magneto's concerned, again, I'm thinking more about the bodysuit.
And as for the X-Men, again, I think a team uniform is the way to go. Some of their comic costumes (Cyclops in particular) I never liked. And I DO NOT want to see an X-Men film that will in any way remind me of this:

or this:

My point is, just because you can draw it, doesn't mean it'll look good on film. As I said, the X-Men are not defined by their costumes. They've changed them too often for anyone to say that they are. Spider-Man, Superman, Batman-these guys have altered their looks a few times here & there but are all currently wearing their iconic suits. Can you say that about every X-Man?

 

[Deaths Head II]

It's not the fact that they look iconic in their suits that bugs me, it's just the fact they resorted to black leather and removed anything remotely fantastical always seemed like they were afraid of making this too much into a super hero film.

If the X-Men movies were made now I'm pretty sure they would look EXTREMELY different.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Spandex doesn't always work, you know.
And that's just it; they aren't superheroes. Not in the traditional sense, anyway. Yes they have powers & use them for good, but they don't fit the label of superhero as I define it.
Look at Spider-Man.

His costume serves two clear & important purposes:
1-to conceal his identity.
2-to support his theme of being a man who is spider-like. Hence the web markings, the spider on his chest & the one on his back. This is what makes him Spider-Man to millions of viewers. Now if he's somewhere & sees something about to go down, he's gonna look for a place to hide so that he can get into his identity-concealing, theme-supporting costume. The X-Men have no need for that. With the exception of a couple of them, their costumes mean absolutely nothing. Their faces are exposed, they have needless accessories, they don't really represent anything. Many of them don't even wear an "X", which signifies that they're part of the team. They're a military unit or a police force. That's what they are, & they don't need colorful uniforms to convey that.

 

[Deaths Head II]

It's funny because the comics themselves spoke out against the mindset. I'm pretty sure in Astonishing, Cyclops specifically said they ARE SUPER HEROES. And he said they're going to ditch the black leather they were always wearing at the time thanks to the movies and go back to the spandex. Because they are super heroes. And super heroes wear spandex. It was obviously a knock at this exact attitude, and probably the movies too. Because unlike in the films the X-Men aren't ashamed to be super heroes. You don't need an identity to conceal to be a super hero, nor do your costumes need a motif to establish you are a super hero team. I shudder to imagine the Avengers having matching uniforms just because they will be a government force in the films and just because none of them have secret identities anymore.

I think if the X-Men call themselves super heroes, that makes them super heroes. I think the writers of the comics know what the characters are supposed to be.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I wouldn't want the Avengers to have matching uniforms either, but 1-they have all been established (in 616 continuity at least) as solo heroes w/their own unique costumes, 2-many of them DO have id's to protect & themes to convey, & 3-drawing a comparison between the X-Men & the Avengers is just a bad reference. I already said, SEVERAL posts ago, that I see them more like the Fantastic Four-who, by the way, DO NOT have individual costumes that reflect their individual whatever's, than the Avengers or the JLA.
And come to think of it, in Astonishing, after Cyclops said that (and that whole bit really didn't make sense to me anyway) they did take on similar uniforms, some of which actually had a leather-like texture to them.

Again, if their comic costumes at least represented something & weren't 30 different colors, I wouldn't have a beef with it. But the majority of them do not. Look at Gambit's suit. Or that thing Jean wore in the early 90's. Those are so damn generic it's pitiful.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I actually think most super hero costumes would look good in real life if they were made out of leather. Maybe thats just because of Daredevil though. And I was only using the Avengers as an argument because the only reason you wear a mask doesn't have to be because you're hiding an identity. Spider-Man is probably one of the small remaining group of super heroes who still wears a mask to conceal an identity in Marvel. And if the X-Men were like the Fantastic Four, they would have stuck with the team uniform they had in the beginning of the comics. The writers have rarely changed the FF outfits and the times that they have changed them, the changes usually don't stick. With the X-Men, they've changed them and they've never looked back. The last time they've tried to give them a team look it got quickly changed back.

And the Astonishing Outfits aren't 30 colors. I count 3 (4 if you count the red on the X-belts). And they gave beast a blue and yellow outfit in X3 anyway, suggesting that was the old X-Outfit. They might even go that route for X-Men: First Class, who knows. So they idea of the X-Men having some color isn't the fugly garish mess most people seem to make it out to be. I would prefer anything over the black leather. At least the film Fantastic Four look like super heroes. You can have matching outfits and still show that.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Beast's outfit is yellow & BLACK. And the 30 colors I was referring to was the previous outfits. (30 may be a hyperbole, but oh, well.)
I will agree that some traditional superhero outfits would look cool in leather but not all.
And like I said, Cyclops' basis for changing back to colored outfits didn't make sense. He said the black leather was scaring people. What? How? He said the colors would help them gain the public's trust. They're MUTANTS. The public won't trust them no matter what they wear. And Spider-Man doesn't have the public's trust; he never did. Besides, I truly don't like a lot of the costumes on paper so no way would I want to see them in real life.
Look, I'm not saying black leather is the way to go across the board. But I do think it makes sense in the movie universe that has been established for the X-Men. And I have yet to see one compelling argument that makes me think that putting them in some variation of their tights would work.