The Dark Knight how in the world did this movie cost $180 million?

^ yea exactly i think using chicago as basically your stage costs alot of CREAM
 
zanos said:
Bottomline is even James Cameron who's known for being the first to break industry budget barriers won't even be going over 200 million on his new film Avatar which will be shot in 3D using a completely new technology so I don't know how anyone can justify the expense of all these 200 million or near 200 million films.
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A film about

"a futuristic tale set on a planet 200 years hence... an old-fashioned jungle adventure with an environmental conscience... [that] aspires to a mythic level of storytelling." Avatar is also an emotional journey of redemption and revolution. It is the story of a wounded ex-marine, thrust unwillingly into an effort to settle and exploit an exotic planet rich in bio-diversity, who eventually crosses over to lead the indigenous race in a battle for survival," and "We're creating an entire world, a complete ecosystem of phantasmagorical plants and creatures, and a native people with a rich culture and language."

not surpassing a 200 million dollar budget?

Gollie wilikers, I caint see why not.

I mean, a complete ecosystem of phatasmagorical plants and creatures?

This sounds epic. This needs a 500 million dollar budget.

In all seriousness, this movie will not make 50 million opening weekend, probably a total haul of 150 at most if that.

James Cameron would be smart not to go over 200 million dollars on it. It wont make anywhere close to that.

The budget for Avatar is 195 million.

How they give a guy whos career ended 11 years ago, 195 million dollars to make a movie should be the topic of contention in here. Dark Knight has made the money back. Using a Sure-Fire bomb example to say why the dark knight wasnt worth it, is kind of stupid.

Seriously, terrorists should steal a copy of the script, and throw it at soldiers, that will be a bigger bomb then little boy.

If Avatar breaks 100 million its opening week, I will castrate myself with a rusty coffee can lid. Probably Chock Full o'nuts coffee. Purely for comedic effect.

James Cameron should die.

Dark Knight was worth the 180 million.

Discussion can end here.

Have a great day everybody.


BTW, I'm hoping he puts up a few hundred million of his own, and it totally backfires. He's due for a horrible career turn. This sounds like it.
 
This thread sux.


BTW, CGI movies will always cost less than movies with REAL stunts, REAL locations, well known actors, and filming in a American city.
 
IrishFightin said:
A film about

"a futuristic tale set on a planet 200 years hence... an old-fashioned jungle adventure with an environmental conscience... [that] aspires to a mythic level of storytelling." Avatar is also an emotional journey of redemption and revolution. It is the story of a wounded ex-marine, thrust unwillingly into an effort to settle and exploit an exotic planet rich in bio-diversity, who eventually crosses over to lead the indigenous race in a battle for survival," and "We're creating an entire world, a complete ecosystem of phantasmagorical plants and creatures, and a native people with a rich culture and language."

not surpassing a 200 million dollar budget?

Gollie wilikers, I caint see why not.

I mean, a complete ecosystem of phatasmagorical plants and creatures?

This sounds epic. This needs a 500 million dollar budget.

In all seriousness, this movie will not make 50 million opening weekend, probably a total haul of 150 at most if that.

James Cameron would be smart not to go over 200 million dollars on it. It wont make anywhere close to that.

The budget for Avatar is 195 million.

How they give a guy whos career ended 11 years ago, 195 million dollars to make a movie should be the topic of contention in here. Dark Knight has made the money back. Using a Sure-Fire bomb example to say why the dark knight wasnt worth it, is kind of stupid.

Seriously, terrorists should steal a copy of the script, and throw it at soldiers, that will be a bigger bomb then little boy.

If Avatar breaks 100 million its opening week, I will castrate myself with a rusty coffee can lid. Probably Chock Full o'nuts coffee. Purely for comedic effect.

James Cameron should die.

Dark Knight was worth the 180 million.

Discussion can end here.

Have a great day everybody.


BTW, I'm hoping he puts up a few hundred million of his own, and it totally backfires. He's due for a horrible career turn. This sounds like it.
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Um, even if Avatar only made one dollar it would be just as irrelevant to this discussion as if it made 500 million. The point is Cameron doesn't do anything half assed. He's not going to debut his first film in 11 years just so ppl can criticize how awful and bad it looks. Just use common sense. The fact they he's only going to spend 200 million to shoot something in a brand new technology tells you that new films are costing way too much money for no apparent reason while offering less. Compare the visual fx on Hellboy 2 to those used in BB. You tell me which film looks like it cost 85 million and which film looks like it cost 150 million.
 
zanos said:
Um, even if Avatar only made one dollar it would be just as irrelevant to this discussion as if it made 500 million. The point is Cameron doesn't do anything half assed. He's not going to debut his first film in 11 years just so ppl can criticize how awful and bad it looks. Just use common sense. The fact they he's only going to spend 200 million to shoot something in a brand new technology tells you that new films are costing way too much money for no apparent reason while offering less. Compare the visual fx on Hellboy 2 to those used in BB. You tell me which film looks like it cost 85 million and which film looks like it cost 150 million.
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Based on visuals Hellboy 2 looks like it cost 200 mil. :o
 
JP said:
Based on visuals Hellboy 2 looks like it cost 200 mil. :o
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Yeah, I was surprised by the effects on Hellboy 2 and the fact that it only cost 85 million. It definitely had some nice visuals and was a great movie to boot.
 
while BB is a better movie. look at what it spawned!!!!! so Cameron, who's been gone for 11 years finally coming up for air shooting documentaries on titanic, his last movie right? and he's allowed to spend 195 mil. on his movie, but not Nolan, who hasn't disappeared, made good/great movies during that span, and he's spending too much money?
you must work for whatever studio Jimmy boy is at and you got cut out the movie right? or are you still upset that a bourne movie swept your movie in the f/x category!!!

look stop trying to be a party-pooper here and let REAL fans enjoy this movie, flaws or not! jesus!!!
 
although i hate to say it..... the answer is easy....it's because they shot the movie in america.... at least most of it anyway.. this is why so many movies get made in europe, new zealand, mexico... to shoot a movie here is way more expensive... the unions, overtime... trust me.... first hand experience on this..... hellboy would have cost about 160 million easy if it was filmed in america... thats why they went to budapest.. sooo much cheaper.. and they can work the hell out of you ...6 or 7 days a week....16 hours a day... and local labor is very cheap... 85 million goes a long way in europe... look at that film...
to shoot a movie like ironman in a desert for a month, then go to a sound stage in los angeles for a bit...heck ..that cost 150 million.. and that was for a desert.... i think they shot in chicago for a few months didn't they... closing done parts of the city all of the time... between that and the marketing ... well i think 180 million sounds like they got a deal to be honest... i can imagine the insurance just for the action scenes... (especially the truck flip )..i mean to shoot those on real streets is pretty incredible... and in the finished product i felt worth it. again, i wish i was wrong...but this is a fact.... look where most movies are made... then look at the budget.... you will notice the trend...
 
Dr. Crane said:
although i hate to say it..... the answer is easy....it's because they shot the movie in america.... at least most of it anyway.. this is why so many movies get made in europe, new zealand, mexico... to shoot a movie here is way more expensive... the unions, overtime... trust me.... first hand experience on this..... hellboy would have cost about 160 million easy if it was filmed in america... thats why they went to budapest.. sooo much cheaper.. and they can work the hell out of you ...6 or 7 days a week....16 hours a day... and local labor is very cheap... 85 million goes a long way in europe... look at that film...
to shoot a movie like ironman in a desert for a month, then go to a sound stage in los angeles for a bit...heck ..that cost 150 million.. and that was for a desert.... i think they shot in chicago for a few months didn't they... closing done parts of the city all of the time... between that and the marketing ... well i think 180 million sounds like they got a deal to be honest... i can imagine the insurance just for the action scenes... (especially the truck flip )..i mean to shoot those on real streets is pretty incredible... and in the finished product i felt worth it. again, i wish i was wrong...but this is a fact.... look where most movies are made... then look at the budget.... you will notice the trend...
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Understood. I still don't feel TDK looks like a 180 million dollar film. People want to defend it because they like the film so much but that has nothing to do with the argument being made here. When Richard Donner was given 55 million to bring Superman to life he didn't just produce something high quality he created something no one had even thought possible on a movie screen using that money. While TDK was very well done it didn't come close to recreating that kind of visual awe.
 
At the end of a long day of shooting, do you really think all the cocaine and hookers waiting for you in your trailer is free?
 
samsnee said:
At the end of a long day of shooting, do you really think all the cocaine and hookers waiting for you in your trailer is free?
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If you kill the Hookers that means you pay half the price!
 
byte19 said:
while BB is a better movie. look at what it spawned!!!!! so Cameron, who's been gone for 11 years finally coming up for air shooting documentaries on titanic, his last movie right? and he's allowed to spend 195 mil. on his movie, but not Nolan, who hasn't disappeared, made good/great movies during that span, and he's spending too much money?
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You can't be serious. :funny:

Cameron is a damn visionary in Hollywood, and there's a reason why he can practically do whatever the f**k he wants to do, with however much he wishes to spend.

When Nolan starts churning out massive money-making blockbusters based on original story concepts, with huge budgets, then we can start comparing the two directors. Nolan is an indie guy that was given lots of dough. Cameron is a guy built for the flashier side of cinema without sacrificing substance.
 
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It cost at least 80 million to bring in Joan Collins as a reference for Joker's makeup.
 
It cost at least 80 million to bring in Joan Collins as a reference for Joker's makeup.
 
I know this is a little bit old, but I thought I should post this:



I got it from Variety.com.
 
umm it might have been said before but...
[BLACKOUT]they needed to have 64 mil (was it?) to burn in the warehouse scene
(its only a joke)[/BLACKOUT]
 
Dan_McCarrin said:
umm it might have been said before but...
[blackout]they needed to have 64 mil (was it?) to burn in the warehouse scene
(its only a joke)[/blackout]
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68 million.
I believe he said it was just his half, making it 34 million.
 
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