Comics How is BND moving at your store?

[Miss Webb]

It's interesting in my area. I was behind in getting my subscriptions (funny money). When I went into my store last night, there were at least 20 copies each of ASM and all three issues of BND and OMD. It was like an overstock or something. It's weird, because before this new "era" Spiderman always sold out (which is why I have a box). I haven't seen the numbers and I'm sure they're all over the place. But at least in my neck of the woods people ain't buying. This surprised me only because I've been reading how its such a hot ticket everywhere. In fact there were so many issues it looked liked bundles with the rope removed. Dollar bin, next?

 

[shinlyle]

I've seen the same thing. I went the past two weeks, and they have an dundance of the last 2 parts of "One More Day", as well a the first 3 parts of "Brand New Day".

Honestly, I think that the retailers ordered too many, in the hopes that, as the storyline progressed, word of mouth would cause people to go back and pick them up. Just my opinion.

Still, I expected all of these issues to be sold out with a variant cover for each one by now. So far, only the first one sold out (from the distributor), and the rest are just sitting there. Either way, when the sales figures are released, we'll see how it stands.

 

[USMC]

OMD 3 and 4 is in abundance at my store. BND 1 is still there, 2 is sold out, and 3 is in abundance.

 

[Hobgoblin]

We already have a thread on this.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=293746

 

[Dangerous]

It's interesting in my area. I was behind in getting my subscriptions (funny money). When I went into my store last night, there were at least 20 copies each of ASM and all three issues of BND and OMD. It was like an overstock or something. It's weird, because before this new "era" Spiderman always sold out (which is why I have a box). I haven't seen the numbers and I'm sure they're all over the place. But at least in my neck of the woods people ain't buying. This surprised me only because I've been reading how its such a hot ticket everywhere. In fact there were so many issues it looked liked bundles with the rope removed. Dollar bin, next?

You missed this huh?-

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=293746

 

[Miss Webb]

You missed this huh?-

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=293746

Yup, haven't been on the boards in a few. BTW, there are a lot of younger readers in the area around my shop (neighborhood store) so everyone just kind of walks in. On saturdays the shop's jammed with people looking at anime movies, talking comics, or playing trading cards. A few collectors pop in and buy the figures. So assuming this new Spiderman is supposedly targeted to certain readers, they haven't gotten the memo yet.

I'll check out that other thread, too. As the weeks go on this could prove interesting as far as preorders go.

 

[SpideyCollector]

Only 3 comic shops here in Toledo, and the major one had a ton of copies of each BND left. The owner says he is cutting his orders way back of Amazing. Its not doing well here at all.

 

[Sloth7d]

I've said it in the other topic already, but my shop can't seem to sell them. The store owner also doesn't want them to sell, so he doesn't advertise it.

 

[Themanofbat]

I've said it in the other topic already, but my shop can't seem to sell them. The store owner also doesn't want them to sell, so he doesn't advertise it.

He must be quite the genius then...

 

[iloveclones]

I've said it in the other topic already, but my shop can't seem to sell them. The store owner also doesn't want them to sell, so he doesn't advertise it.

That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

 

[Dangerous]

Yup, haven't been on the boards in a few. BTW, there are a lot of younger readers in the area around my shop (neighborhood store) so everyone just kind of walks in. On saturdays the shop's jammed with people looking at anime movies, talking comics, or playing trading cards. A few collectors pop in and buy the figures. So assuming this new Spiderman is supposedly targeted to certain readers, they haven't gotten the memo yet.

I'll check out that other thread, too. As the weeks go on this could prove interesting as far as preorders go.

I think if anything, it's movies that draw new people into comics, not continuity resets.
The only new people who would know about the reset and thus potentially be interested in picking up a copy of BND- are comic people who don't read Spider-Man. However since the industry response to the retcon has been so overwhelmingly negative, I think most of this sub section are viewing ASM as a train wreck and steering clear.

 

[farmernudie]

Yep, Joe must've not have spread the word to younger kids that like single super heores very well.

There have been more and more issues left over since the first BND issue and as it moves farther along.

My shop guy said lots of people can't afford to be forced to pay the 3X price, others that were long time collecters dropped it totally, and some just picked it up to see how bad they screwed with it originally. (out of casual curiosity) None of these are long term new collecters...they've LOST those.

Regardless, imo, when Joe did this, he has INDEED made many long time collectors such as myself drop it, as all boards can attest to.

Joe has made spidey comics VERY devisive now, regardless of your opinion on OMD/BND, that is a fact.

And from what I've always been always told, ticking off a wide base of your consumers is NEVER a good thing in business.

 

[Themanofbat]

As I've mentioned before, this move was probably to keep Spider-Man attainable to readers long after we're dead and buried, so they probably don't care if the 25+ year collector stops at this point, because that guy is going to stop at some point sooner rather than later... and who is going to pick up the slack at that point?

Unfortunately, it's a sad reality...

...but at least the books are good (at this point), and I do not feel insulted as a long time reader.

 

[farmernudie]

I hear ya TMOB, however, they SHOULD care if the 25+ year reader stops now...or any reader that is a "regular" buyer. They've lost (many of) these. And who are they replacing them with??

A few casual buyers that are picking it up to see what the fuss or train wreck is about?

It sounds nice in theory to say that they're trying to make it easier for the younger kid to jump on and the future kids for when we're all dead and buried....but we AREN"T all dead and buried yet...I've still got plenty of collecting years ahead of me, and am spending my money (sadly) elsewhere now, when I've always collected everything spidey (except during Clone Saga)

Instead, there are a bunch of fans now WANTING to keep reading, wanting to keep (paying) marvel to read spidey, and AREN'T all because of them out right tampering with something that isn't really broken at this point in time. They took away our choices and left us with Ultimate Spidey and Alternate Spidey, pretty much.

They could have actually WAITED for all their LOYAL fans to actually BE dead and buried before creating a spidey crisis reboot.

 

[Miss Webb]

You know, I really get tired of buisnesses that have a product to push and come up with pop psychology in order to justify what they do. First everyone moaned comics were too 'dark'. But it sold, regardless of demographics. Now the pap is that fans have to be divided in sections, according to age. this is supposed to explain editorial changes (made by people in their 30s and up. Ha!)

Any way you slice it, time will settle this issue. You can serve up the most beautiful crap on a gorgeous plate, and its still crap. Marvel can blow all they want, but bucks rule. What I don't get in all of this is why they couldn't just add these elements to the pre existing spiderman? I just don't see these changes accomplishing anything unless they think we're ******s with amnesia.

 

[Sloth7d]

He must be quite the genius then...

He makes plenty off of other books and card games, so this doesn't affect him.

That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

How so? Because he's ot advertising a bad book? Plenty of shops do that.

 

[iloveclones]

He makes plenty off of other books and card games, so this doesn't affect him.



How so? Because he's ot advertising a bad book? Plenty of shops do that.

Because he's letting his emotions get in the way of his business. To me, that is the height of stupidity.

 

[Themanofbat]

He makes plenty off of other books and card games, so this doesn't affect him.

How so? Because he's ot advertising a bad book? Plenty of shops do that.

Because he's letting his emotions get in the way of his business. To me, that is the height of stupidity.

Exactly... while he may tell people that he doesn't like it personally, he should still pimp comics to everyone who might be looking for them, whether it's BND or TMNT or Archie...

NOT advertising ANY comic book is just bad for the industry, and a poor business approach.

 

[ragingdemon155]

Well the only comic store I go to is Midtowncomics and there has been a ton of BND issues left behind there.

 

[Brand]

Exactly... while he may tell people that he doesn't like it personally, he should still pimp comics to everyone who might be looking for them, whether it's BND or TMNT or Archie...

NOT advertising ANY comic book is just bad for the industry, and a poor business approach.

I expect he's replaced ASM's spot in any advertising with comics that he feels are simply better. It's not that there is less of a push for comics coming from him. I bet he's just shifted focus away from a title that, while it already has some people who know it and will buy it anyway, isn't up to his expectations anymore. It doesn't mean that he's not trying to encourage comic reading as much as he was pre-OMD.

Think about it this way. Big shows like Desperate Housewives are going to get more advertising and better time slots than newer or lesser known programs. If something were to happen and the TV execs got upset, they'd be well within their rights to shift things around so that some of those privileges went to the little guys. DH (or whatever show you want to use as an example) would still be there for its fans to watch, and its advertisements would be replaced with ads for other (probably better) shows. I can think of Battlestar Galactica as an example. When the ratings slipped slightly, it got shipped to late Sunday night--the closest you can get to TV death without being canceled for a primetime show.

 

[iloveclones]

I expect he's replaced ASM's spot in any advertising with comics that he feels are simply better. It's not that there is less of a push for comics coming from him. I bet he's just shifted focus away from a title that, while it already has some people who know it and will buy it anyway, isn't up to his expectations anymore. It doesn't mean that he's not trying to encourage comic reading as much as he was pre-OMD.

And if that's the reasoning, I'm all with you. Honestly, I think that's what's going on there, since CBS's aren't exactly a gateway to excessive wealth. I can't imagine an owner badmouthing any product (that he's actually already bought) except he knows he's pandering to someone that he knows hates it. I see it in my shop too. Some guy comes in complaining about Bendis or OMD or whatever, and they nod their head and agree and say how stupid it is and as soon as the guy leaves, they wink and say they actually enjoyed whatever it was. (Of course, they could be pandering to me )

 

[Brand]

And if that's the reasoning, I'm all with you. Honestly, I think that's what's going on there, since CBS's aren't exactly a gateway to excessive wealth. I can't imagine an owner badmouthing any product (that he's actually already bought) except he knows he's pandering to someone that he knows hates it. I see it in my shop too. Some guy comes in complaining about Bendis or OMD or whatever, and they nod their head and agree and say how stupid it is and as soon as the guy leaves, they wink and say they actually enjoyed whatever it was. (Of course, they could be pandering to me )

t:

Too true. That old "the customer is always right" motto is one reason I could never go into retail or any other sort of customer service. I've seen too many rude people that I would have smacked before I catered to their every wish.

 

[spider greg]

I actually said I would do this in the other thread, but since this is the "How are BND sales?" thread of the week I'll go with this one.(I'm sure no one remembers anyway) I mentioned the sales in the area of which I live, and then would post sales in the area where my parent's live and where my actual subscription is. Now this store has been around since '82 so it's a popular store in it's area, I worked there for about 7 years and the owner is one of the greatest people I know, complete opposite of the Comic book guy on the Simpson's. I was told the sales were exactly the same and that not one subscriber dropped, in fact when I mentioned that people were boycotting it, they were like "what??" They said they had a few grumbly customers but that's pretty typical no matter what's going on.
Granted, I haven't been all over the country and this is just what I've seen, but I suspect a lot of stores overordered plus it's typical to get extra copies for future back issues.
Just for the record also I think there's quite a bit of exaggerating going on here.

 

[iloveclones]

I'm sure there's some exaggerating going on, but my store has tons of back issues. In fact, I've told the guys to let me know when they go in the 1/2 off bin. I'm going to buy them up in droves, and give them out at Halloween. My contribution to bringing in new fans

 

[spider greg]

Some guy comes in complaining about Bendis or OMD or whatever, and they nod their head and agree and say how stupid it is and as soon as the guy leaves, they wink and say they actually enjoyed whatever it was. (Of course, they could be pandering to me )

You'd be surprised.

I remember there was a guy who would disagree with pretty much anything you said, you could tell him what your name was and he would disagree and tell you your name was something else. We dubbed him "no-man"