How to do a bad TV interview.

[jmc]

This is half an hour long but it is well worth watching.

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This is one of the most remarkable interviews I've ever witness and demonstrates one of the key problems going around today, the inability to actually listen. Interviewer Cathy Newman was trying to grill professor Jordan Peterson on his stance on several topics. Cathy was using the usual journalistic tactics of trying to create soundbites and put words in her guests mouth as they do with politicians but Peterson who's a clinical physiologist and expert in his field was one step ahead of her the whole time, making perfectly articulated points that Cathy continuously either misinterpreted or just didn't want to hear. On the specific subject of free speech he makes a point that leaves her with absolutely no response because she's knows he's right (about 20 mins in). It seems clear she didn't do her research on the guest. It's a remarkable example of someone not paying attention to what's being said.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Oh... Not this circle jerk nonsense over an obviously ill equipped interviewer and the smuggest of smug public intellectuals that is basically the Alt-Right's life guru trying to make a buck off of repackaging common sense aphorisms as some kind of firewall against Marxism destroying Western cultures and values.

Is she verbally outgunned by this sophist? Yeah. Having taken the time to see his videos and read up on him and his positions on issues he is just providing a barely thin cover for the usual radically regressive Alt-Right/Libertarian ********.

The online mad on for this guy baffles me.

 

[jmc]

How the hell is any of that alt-right?

 

[Mandon Knight]

Saw the broadcast version of this interview 'live' in the studio as such, upon original transmission and as much of a **** the man is in his views and how he presents them here, Newman failed to conduct the interview on a 'level', she let her personal views into a job situation and that's not particularly a great idea, understandable, in this situation, but she should have been able to dispassionately separate her feelings from the overall situation.

 

[DeadPresident]

Making the assertion that anything that does not appear overtly liberal is “alt-right” is about the most intellectually lazy thing one can do these days.

One might even call it “sophistry”.

Some of his points are horse**** and others have some semblance of validity about them...intelligent people would distinguish between them and ignore the drivel and consider the insights.

 

[jmc]

Saw the broadcast version of this interview 'live' in the studio as such, upon original transmission and as much of a **** the man is in his views and how he presents them here, Newman failed to conduct the interview on a 'level', she let her personal views into a job situation and that's not particularly a great idea, understandable, in this situation, but she should have been able to dispassionately separate her feelings from the overall situation.

What exactly is this guy saying that's pissing people off? He seems to be someone who's done his homework on what he's talking about.

 

[ludovica]

How the hell is any of that alt-right?

Here you go:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

Making the assertion that anything that does not appear overtly liberal is “alt-right” is about the most intellectually lazy thing one can do these days.

One might even call it “sophistry”.

Some of his points are horse**** and others have some semblance of validity about them...intelligent people would distinguish between them and ignore the drivel and consider the insights.

As linked above and as Krypton said, what few he says that's not bogus is just common sense.

 

[jmc]

Here you go:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

That wiki isn't really all that helpful. In fact it's really poorly written out and seems to be lacking information other than he doesn't seem to like post modernism.

As linked above and as Krypton said, what few he says that's not bogus is just common sense.

It says a lot then about the media then if someone who talks common sense is deemed refreshing and garnering millions of views. Frankly, more discussion from level headed people and fewer from moronic political pundits might result in some proper changes being made in the world.

 

[ludovica]

That wiki isn't really all that helpful. In fact it's really poorly written out and seems to be lacking information other than he doesn't seem to like post modernism.



It says a lot then about the media then if someone who talks common sense is deemed refreshing and garnering millions of views. Frankly, more discussion from level headed people and fewer from moronic political pundits might result in some proper changes being made in the world.

That was for reference...
I have seen this guy play the victim card too often over the years and even though he's become a revered figure in alt-right circles, he never really distanced himself from them.
Of course not everything he says is a priori wrong, but I'm really wary of him.

 

[Donner]

Jordan Petersen is nothing compared to the far right whack jobs that exist in the US, but here in Canada, his views are discriminatory and not based in fact. Some Canadians like him because they feel he "tells it like it is" like Trump supporters, but everyone else thinks he says **** just to stir the pot and get YouTube views.

When it comes down to it, he's just a white guy who hates that women, minorities and the LGBTQ community has a voice and support.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Making the assertion that anything that does not appear overtly liberal is “alt-right” is about the most intellectually lazy thing one can do these days.

One might even call it “sophistry”.

Some of his points are horse**** and others have some semblance of validity about them...intelligent people would distinguish between them and ignore the drivel and consider the insights.

No offense DP but you are EXACTLY the type I expected to be in this guy's corner. And as I and other posts already stated, whatever value one might get from him and his "insights" could be gleaned from a **** metric ton of other places, or is so profoundly simple as to be thought of as common sense.

Again... This doesn't absolve the interviewer (who BTW, thanks to the online Alt-Right circle jerk due to the interview going viral has received threats ranging from death to sexual assault from this guy's fans...) from simply being not at all good at conducting this interview. But even then, she has a point in saying there are indeed implications to his views, philosophical outlook and what he advocates, along with his analysis.

 

[Flint Marko]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[Flint Marko]

Lmao

Stay salty

 

[C. Lee]

I t watching after about 2 minutes....I thought the guy was boring and have better things to do than watch him for a half hour.

 

[jmc]

Jordan Petersen is nothing compared to the far right whack jobs that exist in the US, but here in Canada, his views are discriminatory and not based in fact. Some Canadians like him because they feel he "tells it like it is" like Trump supporters, but everyone else thinks he says **** just to stir the pot and get YouTube views.

When it comes down to it, he's just a white guy who hates that women, minorities and the LGBTQ community has a voice and support.

Is there evidence of this? The dude seems pretty careful with his wording going off this video.

 

[Kuwolski]

Jordan Petersen is nothing compared to the far right whack jobs that exist in the US, but here in Canada, his views are discriminatory and not based in fact. Some Canadians like him because they feel he "tells it like it is" like Trump supporters, but everyone else thinks he says **** just to stir the pot and get YouTube views.

When it comes down to it, he's just a white guy who hates that women, minorities and the LGBTQ community has a voice and support.

The great Brother Theodore has always been my speed.

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[Doug_Moore]

The online mad on for this guy baffles me.

He supports free speech that's why.

 

[Kane52630]

How to do a great tv interview.

 

[Donner]

He supports free speech that's why.

Right "free speech." He just wants to be a dick. I worked with a woman I knew from high school who had a major breakdown (from bullying and family issues) and was hospitalized. After she got out of the hospital, she changed her name. I called her by the name I knew for her and she explained that she changed it and asked to be called by her new name. Simple. I did as she asked because it's no skin off of my back to call her by her preferred name.

Petersen doesn't agree with transgenderism so he doesn't want to call people by their preferred pronouns. He doesn't believe that being transgendered should be protected like race and sex are. Most sane, courteous people will call someone by their preferred name because why not?

 

[Lighthouse]

I've seen this dude before. He's one of those Ben Shapiro pseudo-intellectuals who use strawmen and generalizations to justify hate speech. He's garbage.

 

[Flint Marko]

Right "free speech." He just wants to be a dick. I worked with a woman I knew from high school who had a major breakdown (from bullying and family issues) and was hospitalized. After she got out of the hospital, she changed her name. I called her by the name I knew for her and she explained that she changed it and asked to be called by her new name. Simple. I did as she asked because it's no skin off of my back to call her by her preferred name.

Petersen doesn't agree with transgenderism so he doesn't want to call people by their preferred pronouns. He doesn't believe that being transgendered should be protected like race and sex are. Most sane, courteous people will call someone by their preferred name because why not?

Fairly certain I've seen him express that he doesn't have a problem with using someone's preferred pronoun as long as:

A) it's a word that exists in the english language (he, she, they) and not one of the 70+ new one's like Ze or whatever, and most importantly

B) he doesn't have to call you by your preferred pronoun under threat of legal action, which I think is reasonable. It'd be nice if everyone would make a point to be courteous and tolerant and I'd happily refer to someone by whatever they'd prefer to be called, but you shouldn't be punished by law for being inconsiderate about someone's feelings.

If I'm wrong about his beliefs then please correct me. I can't say that I'm super familiar with all of his beliefs but I've heard him on a few podcasts a few months ago and that's what I generally remember.

 

[Lighthouse]

Fairly certain I've seen him express that he doesn't have a problem with using someone's preferred pronoun as long as:

A) it's a word that exists in the english language (he, she, they) and not one of the 70+ new one's like Ze or whatever, and most importantly

B) he doesn't have to call you by your preferred pronoun under threat of legal action, which I think is reasonable. It'd be nice if everyone would make a point to be courteous and tolerant and I'd happily refer to someone by whatever they'd prefer to be called, but you shouldn't be punished by law for being inconsiderate about someone's feelings.

If I'm wrong about his beliefs then please correct me. I can't say that I'm super familiar with all of his beliefs but I've heard him on a few podcasts a few months ago and that's what I generally remember.

This is such a load of HS. Where is this problem? Where is the squad arresting people for misgendering? This is such a typical tactic of these kinds of dudes. Champion against something that isn't a problem to make gullible idiots think it is.

 

[Donner]

My brother is like that, too. He thinks that if he holds a sign that says "Gays should go to hell" and stand on the street, he'll be arrested and that it's against his "right" to free speech. The truth is that he wouldn't get arrested at all. It's not a police matter until it's harassment.

 

[Donner]

Petersen wouldn't get arrested for refusing to call someone by their preferred pronoun. He probably would get fired, though. Which is fair given how big of a dick move it would be to refuse a simple request.