How would you improve the MCU?

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Don't let the title fool you, I love Marvel movies and think it's one of the great achievements of entertainment. With that being said, there are somethings I would have done differently to improve the MCU

1. Have Captain America have two movies during WWII with him going in the ice at the end of the second movie. This allows them to flesh out Cap, Bucky, Peggy, Howard Stark and emphasis that this was the beginning of Shield. Red Skull would be the overarching villain, but you could also have Zola, Hienrich Demo, and Madam Hydra as villains.

2. Iron Man 2, go full Demon in the Bottle story arch. Tony could still be dying but instead of just being a jerk, show that he was hitting the bottle trying to cope with his fate.

3. For Avengers, have Betty Ross working with Shield and be the reason Banner comes in. Black Widow could still her role in regards to the action, but give her the Maria Hill storyline of not believing in the Avengers Initiative. Only reason she goes along with it is for Hawkeye and by the end she believes in the Avengers.

4. Reduce Jane Rosters role in the movies. I think the need to link Thor to Earth really hurt The Dark World. Make Jane an ally and Lady Sif the love interest and keep the movie off of Earth until one of the end of movie credits.

5. Winter Soldier is the end of Caps Trilogy

6. Iron Man creates Ultron, but it was based on Hank Pym's work. This would validate Pym's mistrust for Tony which is passed on to Scott Lang.

7. Show that Ultron really was a terror to the world.

8. Civil War is a joint Cap and Iron Man movie. Call it Captain America and Iron Man Civil War or just Marvel's Civil War. Hemlut Demo is the Grandson of Heinrich, his storyline is the same but we are lead to believe he wants to avenge his Grandfather but the twist is that he hates Hydra and has the same motive as in the movie.

9. For Doctor Strange, show that years passed from his accident to when he is a sorcerer.

10. Show Thanks wreck someone powerful before we get to Infinity War, that would add to the experience when he shows up in the movie.
 
Not much. The MCU has done things remarkably well. However, I think the one thing they are really missing out on is not bringing Charlie Cox, Krysten Ritter, and company into the films.
 
1. Cut down on the jokes. Not all of it but like 50%-60%.
2. Move on from Tony and stop having him build everything for everyone else.
3. More character-driven films.
 
Cut back on jokes. Seperate from Disney's influence. More mature reflective plots.

Revamp the formula
 
So tempted..... I would scra...... (joke everyone).
 
Only small issue I have is that they aren't crossing over with the Netflix Marvel Universe and or Agent's of Shield. Bringing back Coulson and bringing in Quake/Daisy Johnson to the MCU would have been perfect for Civil War to be alongside Captain America's side.
 
Only small issue I have is that they aren't crossing over with the Netflix Marvel Universe and or Agent's of Shield. Bringing back Coulson and bringing in Quake/Daisy Johnson to the MCU would have been perfect for Civil War to be alongside Captain America's side.

Yeah, it is very disappointing that the continuity between TV and film fell apart after the extremely promising start in the spring of 2014 with AOS and TWS. Having Sitwell, Hill and Fury move back and forth between the big and small screens over a few weeks was unique and exciting, and its a shame that "It's all connected!" morphed into "It's not completely contradictory!"

It may have been for the best - tight continuity would likely have been too difficult to pull off, it would have put the stink of Iron Fist and Inhumans onto the movie-verse, and the Netflix shows may be abandoned sooner rather than later with the launch of Disney's new streaming service. But I would love for a show to feel as much a part of the MCU as AOS was for a brief time in 2014.
 
In IM2, the villains would be more of a formidable threat even if the actual conflict in the movie is Tony Stark himself. Nick Fury's too busy to swing by.

SHIELD in The Incredible Hulk as it was once planned.

The Avengers in The Avengers (well the entire cast really) wouldn't be as flanderized. They also wouldn't be doing practically nothing for so long before the big finale hits. Oh and Banner played by Edward Norton obviously has it under control. Loki's the villain, so Thor has more focus.

For Iron Man 3 take away ruses & foreshadowing of Aldrich Killian obviously being the Mandarin and is another rival business dude with a vendetta. No PTSD subplot. Would prefer the Ellis Extremis story in general, but if they'd rather do that other Extremis story because it's more cinematic so be it.
Scrap "All Hail the King".

I dunno how, but genuinely just a complete overhual that makes better use of this unforeseen yet necessary buddy comedy within The Dark World...which i understand is answered by its sequel.

More Avengers or at least brief cameos in The Winter Soldier.

I prefer the Guardians that Gunn supposedly based his take on. I also prefer Ronan from the cartoons & comics. Less hard shifts between overly serious and overly comedic moments...wasn't digging the frat boy schtick for the most part.

Ultron is less of a buffoon. He can still be constantly defeated and retreating.
I'd put more focus on the Maximoff twins to the point where the Avengers almost feel like secondary or tertiary characters. This is the movie where Thor can take a break.

Ant-Man is unfortunate. I'm of course in the Edgar Wright camp. There were elements of his style, but definitely could have used more of it.

I would trim the fat of Civil War. This sadly means no airport fight.
It's a Zemo-Bucky-Panther story that happens to also finally put Stark's and Roger's animosity towards each other to rest. I would have loved to develop that "rivalry" of theirs more in previous flicks.

Doctor Strange is a fun movie that didn't need more "fun" in it. Oh and Strange's arc didn't need to be so told when it was already being shown. Otherwise, I was genuinely surprised how well this veered into TWS levels of balancing tone.

GOTG2 was a movie. It looked great. Could use more plot and more refreshing jokes / sense of humor. Still not into this meandering vers of the Guardians.

...Spider-man doesn't mess up as much since he's now gotten a hold of this tech suit. Most of the drama and story would be coming from his regular life with the superheroics interspersed in...that includes him not looking & feeling so bored outside of Liz Allen...Also, not making his regular life feel so inconsequential. Can't exactly do a "John Hughes" styled teen movie and not have characters drive the emotional beats of the plot. Supporting cast can actually be more than comedic fodder.

After seeing it, I honestly didn't care for Hulk in Ragnarok, especially not that version of Hulk. I did very much enjoy the callbacks, but I would put more focus on Korg instead. Save Hulk for Infinity War. This definitely felt more like the second movie in the Thor saga.
 
1) Stop undercutting tension and consequences with humor.

2) Allow villains and their motivations to be fleshed out. For origin movies, the villains’ journeys can run parallel to the heroes’. With the protagonists already having been established in their first movies, the new villains can be developed more independently from them in sequels.

3) Allow the films to maintain their own visual style.
 
IM1: Presciently cast Don Cheadle

IM2: Keep Rourke's villain development, give Natasha full scenes with Pepper for development

TIH: Pitch Hulk vs Banner for actual conflict, and their union as key to defeating an Abomination who has on Hulk what Super Soldiers have on normal guys

Thor: Include Hawkeye alongside Coulson the whole time (like Natasha in IM2) for development, perhaps he is the one Thor fights with near the hammer, and the one who drops him, making him turning evil in Avengers even more frightening.

TFA: Allow Cap to be a more dynamic combatant, less repetitive shield use, the 2nd act movie reels/montage should be more Indiana Jones and less Flash Gordon, also less obfuscation of Naziism for Hydra. Include Nick Fury's father for connectivity.

Avengers: Less cutting of tension with comedy, only jokes in fall of helicarrier should be Coulson's death one liner. I like the suggestion of including Betty Ross. I would personally want to include Wasp, like in Whedon's original take if at all possible as the sort of supporting protagonist of sorts.

IM3: Give fake Mandarin a real dialogue/argument with Tony before the reveal, keep the Maya as a villain twist, have Tony use his macguyver powers to pwn Extremis guys to underline the "I am Iron Man" theme more clealry.

Thor2: Turn it into a road trip ala Lord of the Rings, humans and Asgardians together. Kill some people off dramatically, have fun with Thor being without his hammer. More Hawkeye here recovering from Avengers. Presciently handle Jane and Thor's pairing as doomed.

TWS: Keep everything entirely the same. I'll hear nothing different.

GotG: Keep things similar, but if Yondu is supposed to be daddy-like, we need some sense of that here, and not just him as a horrible father figure.

AoU: Make Ultron more gravely threatening and more morally correct about the destruction the Avengers naturally leave in their wake, essentially, what actually is dealt with in Civil War. Split up the entire team and do more intresting pairings and small groups as they build towards the battle in Sokovia.

Ant-Man: If you can't keep Edgar Wright, make it a The Wasp film with Hank Pym playing the narrative role of Douglas and Lilly's characters, while our Janet is in the newcomer to a pseudo-legacy role that Scott Lang ends up in.

CW: Add external pressure to the airport fight in that international military is en route if fight isn't finished soon, so everyone is fighting harder and mistakes become inevitable. Give Widow her time with BP for her development and with Spider-Man to show his connection to Captain America's ideas, which is supposed to be the point of the film, and allows Spidey's inclusion and interaction to add weight to the finale instead of just be a fun diversion.

Dr.S: Go trippier harder more often. Use the dimension hopping to essentially 'show' different styles and rules of magic, and then call back to and develop them throughout the film, whether it's an enemy that uses fractals, or distortive manipulations, or whate have you, or those same clear mirror dimension spears all of Caecilius' men use. Less emphasis on martial arts as a form of effective combat, though using the poses and motions to harness magic does make sense, Dr. Strange shouldn't be Iron Fist.

GotGv2: Allow Drax to be badass about once per film, and do something completely unbelievable just out of sheer dumb luck in glorious fashion.

SMHC: Let Peter end up developing his own suit that looks like the Stark suit, perhaps set up by he and Ned trying to duplicate it. Underscore the idea of him becoming his own man. It changes the film from "keep doing what you want, and you'll evetually get what you want" to actually having him learn and change from his mistakes, and become closer to the character we know.

Thor3: Actually have the Revengers fight for a scene on the bridge against Hela, which looks like a win (esp with Thor, Valky, Hulk, Korg, Heimdall and Loki side by side by side), except Hela is a boss, and can't be beat.

Overall: Deeper/more mature villains, music and more diverse color palettes. I think they're going in the right direction on all of these.
 
Thor 1: Give Thor a better origin story than "1000 year old being visits small town New Mexico for a weekend and gets a complete personality change".
-Maybe take the Donald Blake approach where Odin sends him to live life (or multiple lives) as a crippled mortal to humble him.
-Alternately the Ultimate approach where he's superpowered and keeps introducing himself as a God but SHIELD treat him like an delusional supersoldier until other Loki/the Destroyer/Ice Giants come to earth.

Spider-Man HC: Nick Fury (superspy in hiding investigating an old score with the villain and the superpowered high schooler mixed up in things) rather than Iron Man as the main link to the MCU. Peter's still a rookie but between spider-sense, serious strength/speed/agility and his intelligence he seems more impressive and makes more quips.
I'd prefer Norman Osborn as the villain with quick flashbacks to Peter getting his powers at Oscorp and a backstory of Osborn trying to replicate the super soldier serum for Fury, coming close with the accident that makes Peter then turning himself into the Goblin. Failing that though they could still use Vulture/Tinkerer/Shocker and have them as ex-SHIELD agents to tie them into Fury.

I'd second all of these as well:
6. Iron Man creates Ultron, but it was based on Hank Pym's work. This would validate Pym's mistrust for Tony which is passed on to Scott Lang.

7. Show that Ultron really was a terror to the world.

8. Civil War is a joint Cap and Iron Man movie. Call it Captain America and Iron Man Civil War or just Marvel's Civil War. Helmut Zemo is the Grandson of Heinrich, his storyline is the same but we are lead to believe he wants to avenge his Grandfather but the twist is that he hates Hydra and has the same motive as in the movie.

9. For Doctor Strange, show that years passed from his accident to when he is a sorcerer.

10. Show Thanos wreck someone powerful before we get to Infinity War, that would add to the experience when he shows up in the movie.

Thor: Include Hawkeye alongside Coulson the whole time (like Natasha in IM2) for development, perhaps he is the one Thor fights with near the hammer, and the one who drops him, making him turning evil in Avengers even more frightening.

AoU: Make Ultron more gravely threatening and more morally correct about the destruction the Avengers naturally leave in their wake, essentially, what actually is dealt with in Civil War. Split up the entire team and do more intresting pairings and small groups as they build towards the battle in Sokovia.

CW: Add external pressure to the airport fight in that international military is en route if fight isn't finished soon, so everyone is fighting harder and mistakes become inevitable. Give Widow her time with BP for her development and with Spider-Man to show his connection to Captain America's ideas, which is supposed to be the point of the film, and allows Spidey's inclusion and interaction to add weight to the finale instead of just be a fun diversion.

Only small issue I have is that they aren't crossing over with the Netflix Marvel Universe and or Agent's of Shield. Bringing back Coulson and bringing in Quake/Daisy Johnson to the MCU would have been perfect for Civil War to be alongside Captain America's side.
 
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