I don't think he should die in the film...

I hope Rorschach dies it made me so mad but it made the book for me.
That's the one part I didn't like in the book.

I think Dr. Manhattan could have and should wipe his memory and calm his anger at the world and it's evil ways that he sees in it.
 
I don't want Veidt to die either, but if he does, or if he did, it simply wouldn't change anything about the "gray" nature of his actions. Unless you change the way you think or allow someone's actions out of context to sway your beliefs about the morality of those actions, at which point you probably didn't "get" the ambiguity of WATCHMEN to begin with.
 
That's the one part I didn't like in the book.

I think Dr. Manhattan could have and should wipe his memory and calm his anger at the world and it's evil ways that he sees in it.

Rorschach had to go. The guy was in pain and was expressing a king size death wish through out the book.
 
That's the one part I didn't like in the book.

I think Dr. Manhattan could have and should wipe his memory and calm his anger at the world and it's evil ways that he sees in it.

Does DM even have the power to do those things?
 
ozy's ultimate fate is to see his excellence unravell before his eyes or keep up the pretence and suffer and enternity of restless nights...

death is such an easier option for him to have...

Excellent way to put it. :up: Ozzy can't be killed. He has to be the "villain" who might just get away with it, but it's not clear if he should. That's why Watchmen is so deep. I've defended the changed ending but I definitely don't want Ozzy to die.

Yeah, Ozy should'nt be killed. Seeing him after Jon says "nothing ever ends" with a scared face wondering if he did the right thing was great for me. I hope it plays out like that in the movie.

That was one of my favorite panels from Watchmen. Ozzy had really irritated me up to that point with his smugness and his total certainty that what he was doing was right and he'd get away with it. Then, briefly, he showed a moment of doubt, and I felt a bit of sympathy for him. He became a monster in order to save the world, but he may only have bought it a little more time.

My other favorite panel is Hooded Justice's expression when Blake accuses him on getting off on beating him up.

Ive always wondered why Ozy dreams of the black freighter. Sometimes i wonder if that was the comic the kid was reading at all? or was it all Ozy's dream.

Maybe Ozzy reads comics too. :word:

Rorschach had to go. The guy was in pain and was expressing a king size death wish through out the book.

QFT, as much as it pains me to admit it. I really wanted Rorschach to live. :csad:
 
QFT, as much as it pains me to admit it. I really wanted Rorschach to live. :csad:

I think everyone on this board could agree with that statement.

As you get closer and closer to finishing Watchmen, you feel for 'ol 'schach and could even relate to him. He quickly became one of my favorite comic characters. And as much as I didn't want him to die, I couldn't see it any other way other than to have him die. It's perfect. He's such a troubled character and reading his story from beginning to end, there's sort of a poetic feel to his existence. He is the last "hero" out there. Still doing his "job". But he's ignored. He's written off as a nutball and is quickly forgotten. And even as he dies he's ignored and forgotten. Nobody will know about the struggles he went through.

That is unless that fat kid gets his journal published.
 
I don't remember him wiping anyone's mind clean or calming someone's emotions using his own power. When did he do these things?

He didn't, but his powers seem to give him complete mastery over matter and energy. Since the mind is a physical thing, all he needs to do is reorganise it's processes.
 
He didn't, but his powers seem to give him complete mastery over matter and energy. Since the mind is a physical thing, all he needs to do is reorganise it's processes.

He may have the power, but I'm not sure he actually knows how to do it. I mean the workings of the human brain may be too complicated, even for him. If he really did have the ability, I'm sure he would've used it on someone in the GN, like Laurie or Janey.
 
He may have the power, but I'm not sure he actually knows how to do it. I mean the workings of the human brain may be too complicated, even for him. If he really did have the ability, I'm sure he would've used it on someone in the GN, like Laurie or Janey.

It wasn't in his character to do so. Why would he waste his time on mere humans?
 
I think everyone on this board could agree with that statement.

As you get closer and closer to finishing Watchmen, you feel for 'ol 'schach and could even relate to him. He quickly became one of my favorite comic characters. And as much as I didn't want him to die, I couldn't see it any other way other than to have him die. It's perfect. He's such a troubled character and reading his story from beginning to end, there's sort of a poetic feel to his existence. He is the last "hero" out there. Still doing his "job". But he's ignored. He's written off as a nutball and is quickly forgotten. And even as he dies he's ignored and forgotten. Nobody will know about the struggles he went through.

That is unless that fat kid gets his journal published.
Not me, I felt nothing for him when he died.
 
I think everyone on this board could agree with that statement.

As you get closer and closer to finishing Watchmen, you feel for 'ol 'schach and could even relate to him. He quickly became one of my favorite comic characters. And as much as I didn't want him to die, I couldn't see it any other way other than to have him die. It's perfect. He's such a troubled character and reading his story from beginning to end, there's sort of a poetic feel to his existence. He is the last "hero" out there. Still doing his "job". But he's ignored. He's written off as a nutball and is quickly forgotten. And even as he dies he's ignored and forgotten. Nobody will know about the struggles he went through.

That is unless that fat kid gets his journal published.

I wish Watchmen would've had a scene where Nite-Owl reacts to Rorschach's death. It looks as though the movie has one at least.
 

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