IDW will be publishing new TMNT series

This is interesting news for me. Nickelodeon purchased the rights to TMNT last year from 4Kids and Peter Laird (CEO of Mirage Studios) for about $50-$60 million. Ten million went to get the TV rights from 4Kids and about $40-$50 million went to Laird personally. Now, under the deal, Mirage retained the right to publish up to 18 issues of their own TMNT comics, under Mirage continuity, a year. Naturally, by the time the deal was inked in 2010, the only comic Mirage published was TALES OF THE TMNT and it barely averaged 12 issues a year; sporadic installments of the 3rd or 4th volume of the Mirage TMNT general comic came out once or twice a year by then. The final issue was/is available as a downloadable PDF for about $10.

Now, the riddle is how IDW got involved in this. They have a slew of licensed products, including quite a few 1980's "nostalgia" franchises like GHOSTBUSTERS, G.I. JOE and TRANSFORMERS, as well as classic STAR TREK and even GODZILLA. Adding the TMNT into the mix will add onto that. It will be good to have some reasonable reprints of the older Mirage material; Mirage trades were often haphazardly produced, scheduled, not definitive, and often went out of print. I will be curious if this license includes being able to reprint the Archie TMNT comic that ran in the 90's. That would be a fair product to sell to readers who may be too young for the "gore and grit" of the Mirage series but are a tad older than elementary schoolers. Is IDW in bed with Nick and that is how they got the comic license, or did they somehow deal with Nick, i.e. pay a sum for the license, or got said comic license from Laird himself?

IDW is doing a crossover between a few of their licenses, and adding TMNT to the mix will only increase those options. I am curious how things will go from here.

In 2009, Laird and Mirage made a big deal of the TMNT's 25th anniversary. Now I see that era as having been a publicity stunt to display public awareness and fondness for the franchise so Laird could sell it one last time for one big payday as he seeks to either figure out a new franchise to create, or just retire on top (he is in his early 50's and has been running a large empire since about 2001-2002 or so). To a degree I felt sorry for some of the artists who had been employed by Mirage to draw comics, such as Jim Lawson; I am curious if he might get hired by IDW to draw new Turtle comics again. He has been drawing them for about 20 years and it would be a good way to offer legitimacy. Michael Dooney and even Laird himself could always draw covers.
 
I dunno why they don't reprint the original Eastman & Laird stuff... the original hardcovers are nigh impossible to find
 
They are going to reprint the original stuff it sounds like. If IDWs track record is any indication then they will do a great job. Both GI Joe and Transformers older stuff has gotten great trades from the company.
 
Great news...Definitely will be checking out the new series!!!
 
With this news I have to say that IDW are fast becoming my favourate comic book company. With their fantastic Dr Who comics, the Ghostbusters comics that have been getting better and better and now TMNT.

The reprints thing is what interests me the most. I've only read a few of the first run and would LOVE to have a collection of trades with them all.
 
After losing Angel it's natural they would find a new franshise.
 
I'm really interested in the reprints. Really hoping they continure where Mirage left off with the fancy and tick soft cover collections.

And, I too, Dread, think they should get the old Mirage crew to do the new TMNT books. I'm all for that for several reasons.
  1. They're really a wonderful batch of artiests
  2. IDW, to me at least, rarely has good artiests on their books. And usually when they do get a good artiest they quickly replace them or have them change their style to just disgusting levels.
I can see IDW making Archie collections soon with their relationship with Archie. Hey, IDW, maybe you guys' should get the Red Circle titles since DC trashed.
 
I would have to agree with your second point Justkidding. On their licened books some of the art work I've seen has been down right horrible. I mean they do have really good artists on some of it, but the art in Ghostbusters: The Other Side, for example, is painful to look at sometimes.
 
http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/news-about-new-tmnt-comics-from-idw.html

That's from Peter Laird's blog, and the impression is that this IDW deal was done independent of his involvement. Apparently, he washed his hands of the TMNT franchise last year with the mega sale, and that's probably it, at least for the near future.

It is a good idea to finally have a sane reprint library of older Mirage material. I think some of the difficulty is that some issues featured characters owned by other creators (such as a crossover with David Sim's Aardvark) or some other reason. They did release trades, but often at an erratic pace that often went out of print quickly. The main Mirage TMNT website used to offer TMNT #1-10 to view online for free, but that ceased after the purchase in 2010.

But, yeah, IDW could always hire some of the old Mirage artists. Jim Lawson was basically unemployed as of May 2010, which was his last blog posting. Not only did he draw TMNT comics for Mirage, he also drew quite a few issues of their TMNT ADVENTURES Archie comic series during the 90's (especially at the start). Even Peter Laird drew covers for TMNT ADVENTURES on occasion. Naturally, IDW could hire anyone it wanted, but it is never bad to try to recruit some of the old hands.
 
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Hmm, glad to hear the turtles are getting a new comic. I like a fair amount of IDW's stuff, prbly check this one out.
 
Looking forward to this, I love TMNT.
I was buying the last Mirage title Tales of... up through issue #50.

Will for sure be picking this up when it debuts.
 
That sounds amazing. They got Eastman to come back and plot the thing? That's insane!

I'm so looking forwad to this. I love the fact they're going right for the ongoing rather than testing with mini's.
 
Heh, they went back to the matching masks. I guess they really are going back to the basics. The art looks great.
 
I'd say it was a good move on IDW's behalf to have original TMNT co-creator Kevin Eastman on hand to help produce this new incarnation. It is a solid way of having a connection to that old Mirage Studios fan-base of cult fans while at the same time offering a new direction from what Peter Laird offered for the past 9-10 years. He hasn't had a direct influence on anything Turtle related since "TMNT: THE NEXT MUTATION" ended on FoxKids in 1998 I think, and he sold his rights to the franchise to Peter Laird sometime in 1999 or 2000 I think (which retained a small revenue sharing angle until 2008). From there, Laird dove into his Mirage stuff, relaunching the comic in 2001 and the cartoon in 2003 on FoxBox/4Kids TV, and spat out more video games and even a feature film in 2007 (which, despite what some thought of it, actually was a modest hit that made a profit, just not as much as what WB expected).

The last time TMNT comics were licensed to a non-Mirage company was with Image Comics in the mid to late 90's, as well as with Archie Comics around that time.

Of course, I imagine it was a bit of fate, as Tom Waltz says, that Eastman just so happened to want back on the TMNT bandwagon after so long. But it also is likely timing. I imagine Eastman had to have regretted signing away his rights to Laird after the franchise was reborn in the new decade, and especially celebrated a 25th anniversary in 2009 that even got the Empire State Building lit up green for the event. He naturally didn't get a chunk of that $40 million payday that Laird got from Nick/Viacom, unless Laird was generous or there was some fine print somewhere. Still, with the Turtles outside of Laird's wheelhouse, this was the perfect opportunity for Eastman to at the very least get a regular comic gig writing/drawing the Turtles again. The two had clearly not gotten along since the Turtles hit it big; in 2002, Laird claimed that he and Eastman hadn't had much to do with each other since about 1993, which was when the (terrible) third film launched. Eastman drifted onto other things, such as running the HEAVY METAL magazine and being married to Julie Strain.

I think the difference is that Eastman was probably the one more willing to embrace Hollywood compromises and alterations to their work, while Laird was more irritated by that sort of thing. Basically, if you want to know why Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang weren't in the 90's films, it was because Laird hated them, along with virtually every alteration done to the franchise by the 1987 cartoon. While I can respect that, since it is his baby, going out of his way to avoid alluding to that in later films could have put off some audiences.

The art by Dan Duncan looks good; of course, he'll be working with Eastman's layouts and Eastman was always a talented artist. The premise sounds solid, basically re-telling the classic stories in new ways, like Ultimate did for Marvel. At the same time...the concept of "Old Hob" sounds a little weak. What's the best enemy for a mutant rat - a mutant cat!? And is Old Hob himself chased by a mutant bulldog while we're at it? At any rate, it does certainly sound like the Shredder is someone who will be built up and whatnot. New characters are fine, but the main importance should be on reintroducing the old classics in new ways.

Casey Jones included, of course. :awesome:

Maybe I am reading too much into this, but I would not be at all surprised if some of whatever comes up here finds a way into the script for the next TMNT film, which is being written as we speak and may be released in 2013 (as it is being filmed next year).
 
Glad to see IDW is involved...couldn't ask for a better non-Mirage publisher.
 
I'd rather have seen the Dark Horse TMNT book.

The art for that was interesting, with Casey Jones confirmed, but on the other hand, it didn't have the aura of having one of the co-creators involved like this run will have with Kevin Eastman. While Peter Laird was probably better with the pure writing aspect, it prevents critics from saying IDW's Turtles are a complete licensed product with no aspect of the creators' intents.
 
The art for that was interesting, with Casey Jones confirmed, but on the other hand, it didn't have the aura of having one of the co-creators involved like this run will have with Kevin Eastman. While Peter Laird was probably better with the pure writing aspect, it prevents critics from saying IDW's Turtles are a complete licensed product with no aspect of the creators' intents.
But I know the artist who was going to do it and he's a pretty cool guy. He gets his comics where I get them so I talk to him every once and a while. Me, him, and the clerk at the store will just stand around at the shop on Wednesdays and talk about the dorkiest of things for a couple of hours. He also bought the Dark Knight Strikes Back just to spite me :p

Campbell has a lot of passion for the Turtles and when he told me what went down, it sounded like he got screwed over a bit. I also really liked his designs, especially his Shredder.
 
But I know the artist who was going to do it and he's a pretty cool guy. He gets his comics where I get them so I talk to him every once and a while. Me, him, and the clerk at the store will just stand around at the shop on Wednesdays and talk about the dorkiest of things for a couple of hours. He also bought the Dark Knight Strikes Back just to spite me :p

Campbell has a lot of passion for the Turtles and when he told me what went down, it sounded like he got screwed over a bit. I also really liked his designs, especially his Shredder.

Didn't know that; if you stated it in another topic, I forgot. At any rate, it makes perfect sense that you'd have preferred that version.

It could be possible that IDW simply out-bid Dark Horse for the TMNT license, or Campbell's comic was being planned before Laird sold the franchise whole hog to Viacom and that complicated matters; it likely would have upped the license price I'd imagine for an indie comic line.

I saw Campbell's art for it online, at least what was posted online, and it looked pretty good.

As for this IDW thing, I think it was a good PR move getting Kevin Eastman aboard, and I don't think it was a sheer coincidence that he waited until Laird had washed his hands of TMNT before coming back to the franchise. The two of them haven't gotten along in over 15 years and he probably felt irritated that Laird waited until Eastman's royalty contract expired before selling it off to Viacom for a final payday. On the OTHER hand, the idea for "Old Hob" sounds thuddingly mundane as a new character. Like I said above, if you need a mutant cat to be the foe of a mutant rat, then where's the mutant bulldog to chase him?

There was a mutant cat in the past; Scratch, made for the Toy Biz action figure line and who appeared in the 3rd TMNT video game for the GameBoy. There was a similar character in one of the comic issues from Archie but he wasn't named.

Your pal Campbell probably has a more interesting art for the Turtles to me than Duncan, who is a perfectly fine artist, but seems a bit more "house style".
 
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Didn't know that; if you stated it in another topic, I forgot. At any rate, it makes perfect sense that you'd have preferred that version.
Never mentioned it before so it's all good. He also mentioned on how the Dark Horse book was going to go back more to the gritty indie roots of the original Turtles comics.

It could be possible that IDW simply out-bid Dark Horse for the TMNT license, or Campbell's comic was being planned before Laird sold the franchise whole hog to Viacom and that complicated matters; it likely would have upped the license price I'd imagine for an indie comic line.
From what Ross told me, the Dark Horse comic was originally planned before Nickelodeon bought the franchise. But then Nickelodeon bought it and revoked the license from Dark Horse under the reasoning that they wanted a publisher that had larger distribution capabilities like Scholastic. It's why he was utterly baffled on why IDW ended up with the license.

As for this IDW thing, I think it was a good PR move getting Kevin Eastman aboard, and I don't think it was a sheer coincidence that he waited until Laird had washed his hands of TMNT before coming back to the franchise. The two of them haven't gotten along in over 15 years and he probably felt irritated that Laird waited until Eastman's royalty contract expired before selling it off to Viacom for a final payday. On the OTHER hand, the idea for "Old Hob" sounds thuddingly mundane as a new character. Like I said above, if you need a mutant cat to be the foe of a mutant rat, then where's the mutant bulldog to chase him?
Yeah, it was a good PR move. Campbell really wanted to get onto the IDW book and tried because the Turtles was a project that he really, really wanted to work on. But once they announced that Eastman was onboard, I kinda figured out that wasn't going to happen.

Your pal Campbell probably has a more interesting art for the Turtles to me than Duncan, who is a perfectly fine artist, but seems a bit more "house style".
I thought that it was a pretty cool style to use for the franchise. When he mentioned how they planned to bring the franchise to its roots under Dark Horse, I really thought that it went along great with that concept.
 
I'll pick up the intial arc for sure, willing to bet Eastman will stay around just as long, but I'm still mostly excited for the trades of the series coming out. \
 
I assumed Eastman would be providing plot details, page layouts and varient covers. I think he'll stick around for a while after the first arc. I really don't look forward to trying to get the Eastman covers for this series, those are going to sell out FAST.
 

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