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[CFlash]

I'll deal with the comedy.....but it just seems so forced right there. Left cheek, left cheek, left cheek. Unrealistic if you have a however big METAL FUDGIN SCORPION attacking you outta nowhere. A full grown man's pants would be full of hershey's soup if placed in that situation, so it just seems tacky and added on. don't like it.

That and if we get another Man-Hug-Sob Situation like the end of X2 with Wolverine and Cyclops.......I may start drop kicking elderly down the aisles.

I'm pretty much done watching these clips. My problem is that I see these but I dunno what goes on before or after, so it kinda wrecks those parts of the movie for me. I overhyped by visualising a lot of thngs I saw from the 423534345 Spider-Man 3 clips, and ended up being really disappointed in the surrounding scenes and story.

I'm with you. But as xw2 pointed out, it's a way to ground a movie in "safe" mode... approachable to all audiences.... pg13 nowadays... or cheese as I call it. Cameron was (is?) a master at humor in action movies but he knew when to say when. Michael Bay and others have never ever proven to me that they can make a *serious* movie that is also- at times- funny. Like real life. So far, this movie is more Independence Day Cheese than Terminator quality. And, to me, that's a bad thing.

Shia DOES look like he can ground this movie. His "japanese or something" line is perfectly delivered. And so far he looks like he may carry this movie.... and turn what is normally eye-roll inducing to something that feels real.

 

[Tempest19]

Just see 1 or 2 more clips with some Serious Thrilling Drama, instead of that much of Comedy.

Rewatch the video of Duhamel's character talking to his wife. Not "thrilling drama" per say- but it is "drama."

Or watch the various bits of clips (yes we got more) in the behind the scenes features. We got about three to four in there, if I recall correctly. Sam making the presentation, Maggie being told not to discuss any of the information, Duhammel's character and the kid, as well as "Satan's Camaro".

We seriously don't need any more clips dude. It's only a couple of weeks away, I'm sure you can manage.

BTW, I'm more or less positive that these will be the clips that the cast go on interviews with.

 

[SuperJediHero]

It just seem like Michael Bay (probably not only fault) and the company want this movie to crack audiences up rather than use Comedy to relieve all that Dark Intense Drama like great Sci-fi movies I mentioned (Terminator, X-men, Batman, etc).

Hard to say when I have not seen the rest of the movie, though, for how much Comedy this movie really has. TOO much, ISN'T a good thing!

 

[Tempest19]

Here's the break down:

Sam's story brings the heart and the "comedy." There is also, imo, a VERY serious element in part of Sam's story that is abrupted by the Satan's Camaro scene.

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Sam is afraid that he is going insane. Archibald Witwicky went insane and Sam is afraid that he's going to end up like him.

Then the morning after it goes to the whole "Satan's Camaro" scene.

The soldier's bring the more serious dramatic side and are packing the heat. But, the 'credit' is basically IT for the comedy. The only other funny scene is a crack about fatherhood and raising a daughter, "once they start talking- they own you." Very funny, don't know if that made it into the film though.

Maggie and Glen are into the political affairs of the whole thing, Glen acts as the comedy relief at times during those scenes- only twice that I count....

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At "grandma's house" and "interrogation".

Near the end it starts getting serious with one or two jokes here and there. It's primarily suspense and action packed thrill ride finale.

 

[SuperJediHero]

Near the end it starts getting serious with one or two jokes here and there. It's primarily suspense and action packed thrill ride finale.

Good, as long as these Clips doesn't indicate the rest of the movie's mood, I am fine with that.

I expect this movie to be Dark, Serious (With a Little Humor is FINE, but MOSTLY serious), Dramatic, and Tense (NOT Humor All over the scenes)!!!

 

[Hunter Rider]

The thing i like about Shia is what Megan and Bay remarked about him,he is so very natural,he feels like a real person to me in these clips,with the humour,the fear and the intensity.

 

[Tempest19]

It's not going to be dark dude, lol. Unless you consider Jurrasic Park to be dark?

Think Gremlins (Sam's Story) mixed with Independence Day or any war movie you can name against an "alien threat" (Soldier Story) mixed with the techs of 'the Core' or any other techs with one comic and the other straight and serious (Techies).

 

[CFlash]

Good, as long as these Clips doesn't indicate the rest of the movie's mood, I am fine with that.

I expect this movie to be Dark, Serious (With a Little Humor is FINE, but MOSTLY serious), Dramatic, and Tense!!!

That's what I'm HOPING for too. But not really expecting it.

 

[SuperJediHero]

It's not going to be dark dude, lol. Unless you consider Jurrasic Park to be dark?

Well, If it's as Dark as Jurassic Park, everything is Fine!

 

[Tempest19]

Wait, you actually consider JP dark??? I consider horror movies and gritty crime dramas or hero films like Blade "dark." JP more of a lay back, relax and have fun film. I think HP is actually darker than JP (the recent HP films).

 

[Tempest19]

The thing i like about Shia is what Megan and Bay remarked about him,he is so very natural,he feels like a real person to me in these clips,with the humour,the fear and the intensity.

Exactly. Out of all of the actors of his generation, Shia's the one that I see sticking around for a long time to come. He's natural. The perfect "every man" in a film, right now- "every teen."

 

[CFlash]

It's not going to be dark dude, lol. Unless you consider Jurrasic Park to be dark?

Think Gremlins mixed with Independence Day or any war movie you can name against an "alien threat" mixed with the techs of 'the Core'.

The 't-rex introduction' and the 'raptors in the kitchen' are some of the scariest things I've ever seen put on screen. The bean counter getting eaten was funny... but then you're hit with this "WTF just happened" sense almost immediately. It's brilliant. Contrast that to every scene in Armageddon and Pearl Harbor (and ID4 for that matter... tho I know that's not Michael Bay) and you'd understand what I mean.

One is a serious movie that has funny parts. The others are funny movies that try- at times- to be serious. I would love for Transformers to be like Jurassic Park, not Independence Day.

 

[SuperJediHero]

By Dark, I am more of referring to Thrilling, Jaw-dropping Cliffhanging moments I suppose that's in serious tones, No Forced comedy I guess.

Nothing like Blood, gore, if that's what you thought I meant.

 

[CFlash]

Exactly. Out of all of the actors of his generation, Shia's the one that I see sticking around for a long time to come. He's natural. The perfect "every man" in a film, right now- "every teen."

I don't disagree with that at all. I had no idea who he was... but apparently my daughter and fiance love him. And, he has so far impressed me big time in everything I've seen him in. He's a natural.

 

[Tempest19]

The recent HP films can be considered "dark", imo, even though they don't have blood or guts in it. It's more of a certain kind of gloomy tone and atmosphere.

So to me, I always equate "dark" with a "gloomy" tone.

If you're talking "off the hook" thrills and suspense, that's not really considered dark typically- or at least I don't think it is.

I don't even think Batman Begins could be considered dark, imo.

Unbreakable though? Yeah, I think that could be considered a dark film.

 

[SuperJediHero]

Nobody have a problem with Shia!

We just have a problem with the overwhelming of Comedic tones from majority of these clips.

Shia is not the problem!

 

[SuperJediHero]

The recent HP films can be considered "dark", imo, even though they don't have blood or guts in it. It's more of a certain kind of gloomy tone and atmosphere.

So to me, I always equate "dark" with a "gloomy" tone.

If you're talking "off the hook" thrills and suspense, that's not really considered dark typically- or at least I don't think it is.

I don't even think Batman Begins could be considered dark, imo.

Unbreakable though? Yeah, I think that could be considered a dark film.

I am just saying, you know... like when a Character is about to Die, or in danger of dying, we should feel Death in a Thrilling/suspenseful manner, NOT in a Comedy fashion!!

 

[Tempest19]

Um, dude the only funny clip that doesn't have Shia is 'Credit', imo, and as I said there isn't really humor/comedy anywhere else in the soldier section of the film.

Glen- yes, has two funny scenes which I stated above.

But, the comedy as I said is basically all coming from Sam's story- it has Shia to ground it and make it real.

 

[Tempest19]

I am just saying, you know... like when a Character is about to Die, or in danger of dying, we should feel Death in a Thrilling/suspenseful manner, NOT in a Comedy fashion!!

Well.... note, below is a spoiler that you might know- read if you want... just an example of something like that.

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One of the autobots is brutally and sadistically killed in a way that I can only state is similar to a bad guy plunging a sword into a good guy's stomache and making every serious and "fight to the death" type gloom. If on page it's somewhat painful to read, I'm guessing on screen it's really going to be "oh my god" fear Megatron type moment.

Bumblebee being taken away by Sector Seven, imo, and as proved by reviews is as powerful as ET being taken away- so if that effected you as well, well prepare for that same experience again dude.

There are a couple of other things as well, one of them I detailed in a spoiler above- the rest I'm not saying...

 

[Hunter Rider]

Agreed^^^^^

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The animation on Bumblebee and Shia's reactions to him getting zapped make that look a pretty powerful scene in the clips

 

[CFlash]

I am just saying, you know... like when a Character is about to Die, or in danger of dying, we should feel Death in a Thrilling/suspenseful manner, NOT in a Comedy fashion!!

The problem with Bay (in his past movies)- and other filmmakers of his type (Emmerich)- is that these types of scenes are always made to look cool and stylized... but other wise not "real." You're caught up wide-eyed and ooohing and ahhing instead of wincing and feeling.

Michael Bay can make an astronaut getting pierced out of the blue by small meterorite (a horrible and sad death) look glorious. Same goes for getting chopped up by a ship's propellers. IMHO, sh** like that is never "cool."

 

[SuperJediHero]

Well, at this stage, I guess I will reserve further judgement until I see more clips or the movie in it's whole. And, Hopefully Most critics Agree that it's good comedy instead of Bad comedy!

 

[cosmicherosa]

I must say......two movies that came out right around eachother, Jurassic Park & Twister, got light comedy mixed with intense action right. Those are the kind of movies that I like watchin. The negatives are drastically outweighed by the positives (A pipe in the ground saves them from the strongest force of nature...riiiight).

The "heavy dark scenes" involving the soldiers is understandable, but that whole scene was the soldiers. I had no problems with the other scenes. in fact, the scene with:

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Optimus Prime ripping the hood of the car off, and Spike introducing him to the Sector 7 peops

gets it right for me.

 

[cosmicherosa]

Well, at this stage, I guess I will reserve further judgement until I see more clips or the movie in it's whole. And, Hopefully Most critics Agree that it's good comedy instead of Bad comedy!

I foresee the word "distracting" as a popular description, but I will no longer watch anymore videos or commercials. There are supposedly 20 or so action scenes and so far with all of these videos I feel like I have spolied well over half of them already......

 

[nosebleed.]

Too many spoilers makes jack a dull boy.