If you could rid the world of one game...

[Soapy]

I heard this question on a recent podcast and thought it might make an interesting thread...

If you could erase one game or series of games from the industry forever which would you choose and why?

And on the flip side of that question if you could revive a series of games that hasn't been around for a while which would you choose and why?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I HATE the Mario series. I hate everything about it, the characters, stories, everything.

So if i had the power and felt like acting like Darth Vader, id remove all Mario from this planet.

 

[Fading]

To be honest...Halo. I'm sorry, but I just cannot stand it. I've played 1&2 and thought they were mediocre FPS's. However I hear non stop talk about how Halo is the best gaming experience ever, how it's just perfection personified. If getting rid of Halo would mean I'd never have to hear it be overhyped again, I'd gladly do it. You'd think Masterchief himself stepped off the screen and saved someones cat, then gave them a BJ, while simultaneously giving them a million dollars for how some ppl talk about it.

As for what I'd revive? I'm going to cheat and say RPG, and 2D gaming, tho neither is completely dead yet. I think those two genres have suffered this gen due to rising production costs.....guess I should follow the op's question tho heh....a game....I'd revive Streets of Rage. There are better choices, and games I care for more, but I'd love a good smash em up, online co-op, current gen Streets of Rage side scroller.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Halo.

I'd revive non steamlined FPS/RPG hybrids like system Shock 2/Dues Ex. Stalker: SOC and Clear Sky is about the only one out atm.

Ed: Actully not sure about Far Cry 2, we will see.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I HATE the Mario series. I hate everything about it, the characters, stories, everything.

So if i had the power and felt like acting like Darth Vader, id remove all Mario from this planet.

Sorry, the core Mario games are some of the greatest experiences you can have on a game system.


As far as an answer to the threads question, it would have to be Halo.

They are sub par FPS games that people treat like they invented the genre. They aren't bad, just not the second coming.

 

[Fading]

Since others are saying Halo too (glad I'm not the only one to feel that way lol), I think it's also partially because Halo ushered in the oversaturation of FPS's on consoles. Last gen we had tons of creative games, and other various unique, RPG, Strategy, and whatever else type of genre. Every since Halo started selling like crazy it seems like every other game coming out is an FPS.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Sorry, the core Mario games are some of the greatest experiences you can have on a game system. .

No, not any more. Mario went out on the N64 and should've stayed with it.

You guys talk about Halo and over saturation, well i know a little Italian plumber who thinks he knows nothing of the word.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Since others are saying Halo too (glad I'm not the only one to feel that way lol), I think it's also partially because Halo ushered in the oversaturation of FPS's on consoles. Last gen we had tons of creative games, and other various unique, RPG, Strategy, and whatever else type of genre. Every since Halo started selling like crazy it seems like every other game coming out is an FPS.

Yea, thats true, but thats due to the fact that Halo pretty much showed everyone how to do it. I felt like this was coming, but when Halo dropped, everyone else was like "Ohhhhh, so thats how you do it"...

 

[Brainiac 8]

No, not any more. Mario went out on the N64 and should've stayed with it.

You guys talk about Halo and over saturation, well i know a little Italian plumber who thinks he knows nothing of the word.

Yea, I agree he could slow down the spin offs (Even though they have some fun merit to them), and yes, saying Nintendo over saturates the Mario market is an understatement, but as far as core titles go, they are always fantastic.

On top of that, we usually get one core Mario title per system since the NES, so forcing his core titles on the Market isn't as much an issue.

Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Galaxy were all three fantastic experiences in different ways. Now this is all opinion of course...but the Mario series is my favorite series in the world..so yea and stuff.

 

[SpideyForPrez]

I agree with many of you and would erase Halo from game history. Very Glad to see other people feel that way. And as a very personal choice... I would erase all sports games, I just hate them every sport every title. I don't see the appeal, sports are for reality. I'm particularly sick of hearing my friends talk about Madden.

Also I love Mario and most Mario affiliated games but after Mario Galaxy I started thinking that Mario needs a bit of revamp. I'm sick of saving the Princess and fighting Bowser every game. I can't say how but I think he needs a change somehow. And more Luigi! I loved Luigi's Mansion!

 

[Storm22]

Transformers - a terrible game! The only game in my collection that I'm ashamed to own.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

I can't believe someone actually said Mario. If it wasn't for Mario, your silly little stupid overrated games like Halo wouldn't even have a video game industry to be a part of.

Mario is a legend and rightfully so. He created the video game boom, and while he has way too many spin-offs aside from the main games. Guess what? They are all always quality. They are fun.

Unlike the games I'd erase from gaming history. Halo, Gears of War, Fable, pretty much any XBox Exclusive. The exclusives on that system are a joke and so damn overrated. They cause multiple suckass knockoffs of themselves and it's just depressing that people think they are the future of gaming.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Oh, and I agree on sports games too. Who wants to play a football game when you go in your backyard and toss a ball around and have more fun that way? And don't give me the playing as your favorite NFL/NBA stars cause that's not enough of a reason to shell out money for a game that you can play without a controller.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I can't believe someone actually said Mario. If it wasn't for Mario, your silly little stupid overrated games like Halo wouldn't even have a video game industry to be a part of.

Mario is a legend and rightfully so. He created the video game boom, and while he has way too many spin-offs aside from the main games. Guess what? They are all always quality. They are fun.

Unlike the games I'd erase from gaming history. Halo, Gears of War, Fable, pretty much any XBox Exclusive. The exclusives on that system are a joke and so damn overrated. They cause multiple suckass knockoffs of themselves and it's just depressing that people think they are the future of gaming.

Haha, looks like we know where your loyalties lie. Fanboyism is a joke and needs to die out, like Mario.

Mario was fantastic back when it released on the NES and SNES and then again on the N64 and i can understand some of the 'core' titles but "Mario this" and "Mario that" needs to go. Mario has to be one of the WORST characters in video game history, imo. The story, at BEST, is laughable. A fat plumber who battles some sort of turtle and mushrooms rescues a princess. The more games like Metal Gear Solid, games that almost transcend the industry and the less games like Mario, the better off the industry will be.

 

[TheBat812]

uh, i disagree with the whole sports game thing. They have the most replayability of any games out there. I love a great game of tackle football with my buddies, but that's not always an option. Plus, you can't be your team and play the season you're about to watch and follow. Baseball? who plays a game of pickup baseball? The one this is least true of is basketball, but I know I can't dunk, or shoot nearly as good as the pros, not to mention playing in stadiums. The argument against sports games is stupid.

People have already said Halo, so I'll just go for another of similar worth: Metal Gear Solid.

Maybe it's just cuz i never got into the first ones, but these games bore the ****ing **** off of me. A good story is nothing without equally good gameplay. And I thought/think they are crap. (Oh and Ninja ****ing Gaiden. That game can suck my dick)

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Oh, and I agree on sports games too. Who wants to play a football game when you go in your backyard and toss a ball around and have more fun that way? And don't give me the playing as your favorite NFL/NBA stars cause that's not enough of a reason to shell out money for a game that you can play without a controller.

Right, because you can go out to your backyard and play against the likes of Peyton Manning or Kobe Bryant . Idiot.

The whole point of video games is to escape reality. You get to be something youre not. Same with sports titles. The individuals who play them get to do something they never could in real life.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Haha, looks like we know where your loyalties lie. Fanboyism is a joke and needs to die out, like Mario.

Mario was fantastic back when it released on the NES and SNES and then again on the N64. Mario has to be one of the WORST characters in video game history. The story, at BEST, is laughable. A fat plumber who battles some sort of turtle and mushrooms rescues a princess. WOW. What GREAT fun. Video games are becoming more than just dumbass mindless fun and the death of Mario will help to assure that. The more games like Metal Gear Solid, and the less games like Mario, the better off the industry will be.

So you want more movies with snippits of gameplay? I thought MGS4 was great, but I wouldn't want all games to be like that.

In fact, i enjoy mindless fun at times too. For every MGS/Final Fantasy I want to play a Katamari Damacy/Banjo-Kazooie.

Just because you don't like mindless platformers or such other games that are not interactive movies or generic FPS, doesn't mean that everyone feels that way. Noone is wrong for their choice in gaming entertainment, as long as they enjoy it..that is all that matters.

Case in point, I'll be picking up a 360 soon to play some of the great games it has to offer such as Mass Effect...but I am still eagerly wishing Nintendo would make a follow up for Super Mario Galaxy and break their one Mario game per console. On top of that, tomorrow I'm picking up Wario Land and Kirby Super Star Ultra...both mindless, yet fun platformers.

I would be very sad to see Mario disappear from gaming, since he practically saved it.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

So you want more movies with snippits of gameplay? I thought MGS4 was great, but I wouldn't want all games to be like that.

In fact, i enjoy mindless fun at times too. For every MGS/Final Fantasy I want to play a Katamari Damacy/Banjo-Kazooie.

Just because you don't like mindless platformers or such other games that are not interactive movies or generic FPS, doesn't mean that everyone feels that way. Noone is wrong for their choice in gaming entertainment, as long as they enjoy it..that is all that matters.

Case in point, I'll be picking up a 360 soon to play some of the great games it has to offer such as Mass Effect...but I am still eagerly wishing Nintendo would make a follow up for Super Mario Galaxy and break their one Mario game per console. On top of that, tomorrow I'm picking up Wario Land and Kirby Super Star Ultra...both mindless, yet fun platformers.

I would be very sad to see Mario disappear from gaming, since he practically saved it.

I agree with you about choice in gaming, but my preferences lie in more story driven, cinematic games. Metal Gear Solid 4, IMO, was an absolute masterpiece. I mean it went above and beyond what a game is supposed to be. It had a powerful story that was truly gripping from start to finish and great gameplay. I just dont get any enjoyment from mindless platformers the likes of Mario. Which is why i stated that id like them to disappear, that was my opinion. I just want games to take the next step and be viewed as more than just things kids play, which to an extent they have due to games like Metal Gear Solid.

In my orig post i was gonna say that if i had the power to remove one series, even tho i disliked it, i wouldnt becasue itd take away someones enjoyment. I thought my whole "Darth Vader" comment kinda made that statement for me tho.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I agree with you about choice in gaming, but my preferences lie in more story driven, cinematic games. Metal Gear Solid 4, IMO, was an absolute masterpiece. I mean it went above and beyond what a game is supposed to be. It had a powerful story that was truly gripping from start to finish and great gameplay. I just dont get any enjoyment from mindless platformers the likes of Mario. Which is why i stated that id like them to disappear, that was my opinion. I just want games to take the next step and be viewed as more than just things kids play, which to an extent they have due to games like Metal Gear Solid.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy a more cinimatic/epic game also. Example being the MGS or FF series, both of which I enjoy of the games in the series. (MG AC!D or FFX & XII can die though) But on the other hand, I am a die hard platformer fan, not for the story but just because I enjoy them.

In fact, one thing I praise the Wii for is that it is reviving the almost stagnant Platformer genre with some fantastic looking games this year and last: Super Mario Galaxy, Wario Land: Shake It, De Blob, Deadly Creatures, Mushroom Men, and C.O.R.E.

I enjoy the best of both worlds.

In my orig post i was gonna say that if i had the power to remove one series, even tho i disliked it, i wouldnt becasue itd take away someones enjoyment. I thought my whole "Darth Vader" comment kinda made that statement for me tho.

This is the best comment though. Why wish away a game if someone else finds enjoyment in it. Its easy to ignore a game you don't like, and just let others that do enjoy it do just that.

Great comment.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Halo, I never got into it.

 

[Spider-X]

One game?!?!

how about every 3-D Sonic game since Sonic Adventure 2?

 

[Nirvana]

Shame on you for saying Mario.

 

[BizarroAids]

I would rid the world of....


World of Warcraft

Overrated, and not that fun to play. I don't see what the whole appeal of it is. I hear of people spending 8 hours on this game a night...it's just a waste.

 

[Matt]

I HATE the Mario series. I hate everything about it, the characters, stories, everything.

So if i had the power and felt like acting like Darth Vader, id remove all Mario from this planet.

But without Mario, gaming would not be what it is today.

To be honest...Halo. I'm sorry, but I just cannot stand it. I've played 1&2 and thought they were mediocre FPS's. However I hear non stop talk about how Halo is the best gaming experience ever, how it's just perfection personified. If getting rid of Halo would mean I'd never have to hear it be overhyped again, I'd gladly do it. You'd think Masterchief himself stepped off the screen and saved someones cat, then gave them a BJ, while simultaneously giving them a million dollars for how some ppl talk about it.

As for what I'd revive? I'm going to cheat and say RPG, and 2D gaming, tho neither is completely dead yet. I think those two genres have suffered this gen due to rising production costs.....guess I should follow the op's question tho heh....a game....I'd revive Streets of Rage. There are better choices, and games I care for more, but I'd love a good smash em up, online co-op, current gen Streets of Rage side scroller.

I agree with everything you've said

 

[Soapy]

Sorry ProjectPat, I was *this* close to agreeing with you on Mario and even had a giant post backing you up, but I changed my mind at the last minute.

I choose the "Wii" series of games. Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Music, Wii Sports 2, and others like them.

Nintendo likes to claim "innovation", but there is nothing innovative in what they do.
Sure they saved the industy back in the day, but now they're bringing the very industry they once saved down to the electronic equivilent of Fisher-Price.

Thanks to Nintendo and their "casual" bull **** other studios are now dumbing down and stripping out features from their own games so they won't frighten their new casual audience with too much thinking or complexity.

The bottom line is that game developers should strive to make games that raise the industry up to something more than what the public perceives as little more than a toy industry, not try to reinforce that opinion.

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What game would I bring back?

My initial thought while making the thread was that I would really like to see a proper sequel to The Neverhood. However if I can only choose one I would have to say it would be great if MechWarrior (that's MechWarrior, not that MechAssault nonsense) could make a strong comeback.