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[GSFOR]

You do know that there were gay couples in the 20th century right, and that gay relationships have been depicted in the media and literature since the 1970s if not earlier? .....just checking.

I DON'T CARE MAN!!!LET THEM DO WHAT THEY DO WITHOUT MY INVOLVEMENT.

 

[juarez]

I DON'T CARE MAN!!!LET THEM DO WHAT THEY DO WITHOUT MY INVOLVEMENT.

But your involvement is so necessary! without it it's all sizzle and no steak! lol

 

[Mr. Socko]

Lol!

I personally thought Xerxes was a pretty bad ass character and he looked like the rock lol

 

[Blips]

I'll agree Xerxes had an imposing presence [FONT=&quot]and since this is a review thread, here's a link to my video review of the film and comparison with the graphic novel. Check it out and feel free to leave a response.[/FONT]

 

[dpbrave84]

I'll agree Xerxes had an imposing presence [FONT=&quot]and since this is a review thread, here's a link to my video review of the film and comparison with the graphic novel. Check it out and feel free to leave a response.[/FONT]

very good review

 

[green]

If this was any other film we were discussing I would agree with you that it is debateable the level of intention that goes into depicting a villain with seemingly gay qualities. I think most of the time such examples are the result of lazy formulaic writing and/or subconscious casual homophobia. However in this specific example of 300 it is evident from Snyder's words that Xerxes was intended to provoke gay panic in the straight male audience with his sexual ambiguity. It's not just me reading my own subjective view of the film, it's what was intended. So I find that offensive and am calling the film out on its bigotry.

You may not see anyone else on this board commenting on the homophobia of Xerxes characterisation, but take a look around and you'll find plenty of critics and commentators who have noted the depiction in their reviews. Devin's review on Chud.com for example.

You might think I'm taking this too seriously but positive representations of gay people in the media is vastly important to the well-being, safety and rights of gays everywhere. Visibility matters, but when that visibility includes homophobic and stereotypical portrayals that dehumanise us it only encourages bigots to demonise us in real life. No movie is just a movie when a large proportion of people obtain their information and opinions from the media, and so might see in something like 300 a vindication of their homophobia. No movie is just a movie with lives on the line. I don't imagine many people will see 300 and come out with a new-found hatred of gays, but I do believe that the film will serve to reinforce the bigotry of a great many.

You keep hanging on to that one quote while completely ignoring the one where Snyder says my movie is neither homophobic or homoerotic.
That's pretty selective if you ask me. If you take one at face value than you have to take the other that way too.
I dont think Snyders intent in that scene was to degrade or villify homosexuals in general. Knowing how some young people view homosexuals it was used for effect, something that's been done in movies since the days of silent films. Who are you to label Snyder a homophobe without knowing him? You are making assumptions on a persons character by a mere quote, you sir are labeling him the same way others would label homosexuals without knowing them.
Do you realize where you are? This is a message board for superheroes. Its filled mostly with straight 20 somethings who are interested in movies and comics. Ive been here for a few years and in that time have come across a few bigoted posters but for the most part have found alot of the posters to be extremely intelligent open minded indivduals with good view points and opinions. I've even been amazed to find out some of them were only 15 or 16. I think that if this idea that there was homophobic undertones running through out this movie we would have seen more of an outpouring of that sentiment by more than just one poster who it appears signed up soley with the intent to push that subject.
I respect your opinions Juarez, I really do and I appreciate the passion you have for the subject matter however I think your time and your viewpoint would be better appreciated somewhere else than here. If there's one thing Ive learned it's that fanboys opinions dont change very easily even with valid arguements being made. Ofcourse you are welcome to continue on, I feel like youre getting nowhere though.

Ill ask this of the posters here though...
"Do you feel the portrayal of Xerxes was homophobic?"

 

[Nivek]

Ill ask this of the posters here though...
"Do you feel the portrayal of Xerxes was homophobic?"

Hell no!


I also think posters bringing up this discussion are no better than the ones saying it was racist, has some hidden modern political meaning, mocks deformed Sheep-herders, pro-abortion/child murder, mean to horses, ect.

It's just a frickin movie people!!!

 

[chesslover]

infinity/10

 

[venom628]

I dont like 300

Spoiler

Its scary

 

[Vilya]

It was over-hyped, some of the best scenes were already shown in the trailer. they also needed a stronger storyline.

 

[demento]

^ Saw it last night and I agree: definitely over-hyped. I thought it was visually stunning but aside from one or two scenes, it wasn't nearly as exhilarating or dramatic as I was expecting. A textbook case of style over substance.

6.5/10

 

[Arcturus]

I finally got the chance to see 300 last night, I thought it was awesome! Great visuals, amazing battles, and I really liked the music. I liked how everything was designed.

I give the movie a 7.5/10

 

[psychocheeseman]

Such a cool film, i totally loved it. i would have liked it to be like 100 times longer, that's how cool it was. Even had an awesome aussie actor in it who doesn't throw phones at ppl.

Unfortunately, the film did leave me wanting to work out and be big and tough and spartan like....but i'm sure i'll forget about it in no time.

 

[kainedamo]

I can't believe people are calling this film a masterpiece



This movie sucked. It was boring. Very, very boring. There were far too many slow mo scenes. In fact, every action scene was slow mo. And a few non-action scenes were slow mo. Like the horse, raising up it's legs all dramatic like - completely pointless. The oracle girl, girating and dancing about in slow mo - stupid and pointless. It was ridiculous. A character can't ****ing point or anything without having to do a dramatic pose and doing it in slow mo!!

Very thin plot. Which would have been okay, if the film weren't so boring.

The film had its moments, but they were few and far between. The movie didn't do anything to grab me besides a few flashy moves from the fighters here and there. But I was too bored to care, and too annoyed at the stupid slow motion of pretty much every single scene.

Pointless sex scene. I mean seriously. And going through all the different positions, the woman moaning. Cheesy.

The fat monster with swords for arms - what the **** was he supposed to be?

The screen fading to black to reveal the evil black guys white eyes - what the **** was that about?

So many pointless moments, stringed together by a very slow moving plot and just bearable action. So many pointless, embarressing scenes. For example, when they're watching the boats sink and they're cheering - very badly done. I actually cringed at this scene, and many other scenes. Like when the hunchback went to the Persian camp and there was all those girls there.

I wish there was more to comment on, but there isn't. The story? What story? 300 guys fighting tens of thousands - nice idea on paper. Maybe the comic is better, I'll have to give it a read. But they screwed up the execution of this film big time in the movie.

I felt like walking out. I hardly ever feel like that with a movie.

Over hyped trash.

 

[Darthphere]

Like always KD is in the minority with his opinions.

What I find more surprising than people calling this a masterpiece is people expecting some type of engaging plot or story. I went in with the mindset that all I was going to get were some battle scenes, blood and cool visuals, and damn if I didn't get my money's worth. The slow-mo I liked in the battle scenes, I feel it was a great effect and rather have that over Batman begins I cant see **** fight scenes. Yeah the movie was over the top, but so what? Its pointless entertainment, not every ****ing movie has to have an Oscar award winning screenplay. Seriously, its like some of you try your hardest not to have fun.

 

[kainedamo]

Like always KD is in the minority with his opinions.

What I find more surprising than people calling this a masterpiece is people expecting some type of engaging plot or story. I went in with the mindset that all I was going to get were some battle scenes, blood and cool visuals, and damn if I didn't get my money's worth. The slow-mo I liked in the battle scenes, I feel it was a great effect and rather have that over Batman begins I cant see **** fight scenes. Yeah the movie was over the top, but so what? Its pointless entertainment, not every ****ing movie has to have an Oscar award winning screenplay. Seriously, its like some of you try your hardest not to have fun.

I wasn't expecting an engaging plot or story either. But I wasn't exactly gripped by the balls by the action either.

It's not a bad thing when an action scene is over the top. It depends on the movie. And over the top action suits this movie just fine. However, EVERY single motion every character made in EVERY fight scene was exaggerated and in slow motion. Sin City was very over the top, and I loved Sin City. 300 however bored me ****less and the action, besides a few cool moments, wasn't very engaging. Do you know what the difference is between 300 and Sin City? Better direction, better writing.

"Cool" visuals aren't enough to pull me into a movie either. Ghost Rider had great visuals - completely **** movie. MTV effects can be done by any Hollywood director. Great visuals don't make a horror movie scary or an action movie engaging. But great direction does. The direction in this movie wasn't good enough.

Don't assume that I'm a snob that doesn't enjoy mindless movies. I love action movies. I even love cheesy cheap movies. But 300 came over to me as very pretentious. Oh, look at the horsey do a really exaggeratted, really slow pounce in the air that lasts like 10 full seconds!

I saw much more blood in Braveheart, and the action in that movie was much more satisfying - and it wasn't even an action movie!!

I went into 300 with the same expectations as you, DP - I went in expecting dumb entertainment. Instead, I got bored, frustrated, and embarrassed at the bad direction and so called "cool" visuals begging out for 14 year old boys everywhere to admire the MTV effects.


As for my opinion being in the minority. 300 got an abyssmal 61% on RottenTomatoes.

Looks like plenty of people hated the film.

 

[kainedamo]

What surprises me is how badly alot of people on this board have got pulled up in the hype.

The way some people are acting, you would think half of you have never seen an action film before. As far as action goes, there is ALOT better out there.

By the way, my dislike of the film has nothing to do with symbolism, or politics, or homophobia, or racism. Although, that black guy with the white eyes and the blackness and stuff... lol... that seemed kinda funny to me. But anyway, my dislike of the film has nothing to do with any of that.

 

[Nivek]

Want a Cookie?

Sorry you didn't enjoy it.

 

[Spade]

Like always KD is in the minority with his opinions.

What I find more surprising than people calling this a masterpiece is people expecting some type of engaging plot or story. I went in with the mindset that all I was going to get were some battle scenes, blood and cool visuals, and damn if I didn't get my money's worth. The slow-mo I liked in the battle scenes, I feel it was a great effect and rather have that over Batman begins I cant see **** fight scenes. Yeah the movie was over the top, but so what? Its pointless entertainment, not every ****ing movie has to have an Oscar award winning screenplay. Seriously, its like some of you try your hardest not to have fun.

That's the most words I've heard out of you on a movie...ever. Odd occurence.

I won't try and deter you from liking this film as some apparently would as I liked it to my own extent, but I don't really feel it compares to any Batman film in any way. Batman Begins was more about exploring the Dark Knight, with the action more as cool eye candy. If you want a really dark film that it's hard to see any of the fights in, Burton's Batman would be the better comparison. Any sequence in 300 (expect for perhaps the erroneous slo-mo battle at the Hot Gates) beats every sequence in Batman Begins because this is a war flick. The two are comic book films, but that's where the comparison comes to an end in many regards.

 

[kal-el2006]

I can't believe people are calling this film a masterpiece



This movie sucked. It was boring. Very, very boring. There were far too many slow mo scenes. In fact, every action scene was slow mo. And a few non-action scenes were slow mo. Like the horse, raising up it's legs all dramatic like - completely pointless. The oracle girl, girating and dancing about in slow mo - stupid and pointless. It was ridiculous. A character can't ****ing point or anything without having to do a dramatic pose and doing it in slow mo!!

Very thin plot. Which would have been okay, if the film weren't so boring.

The film had its moments, but they were few and far between. The movie didn't do anything to grab me besides a few flashy moves from the fighters here and there. But I was too bored to care, and too annoyed at the stupid slow motion of pretty much every single scene.

Pointless sex scene. I mean seriously. And going through all the different positions, the woman moaning. Cheesy.

The fat monster with swords for arms - what the **** was he supposed to be?

The screen fading to black to reveal the evil black guys white eyes - what the **** was that about?

So many pointless moments, stringed together by a very slow moving plot and just bearable action. So many pointless, embarressing scenes. For example, when they're watching the boats sink and they're cheering - very badly done. I actually cringed at this scene, and many other scenes. Like when the hunchback went to the Persian camp and there was all those girls there.

I wish there was more to comment on, but there isn't. The story? What story? 300 guys fighting tens of thousands - nice idea on paper. Maybe the comic is better, I'll have to give it a read. But they screwed up the execution of this film big time in the movie.

I felt like walking out. I hardly ever feel like that with a movie.

Over hyped trash.

If you didnt like this movie..you wont like the comic..because its shot for shot..scene for scene.. word for word STRAIGHT from the comic book..sorry u didnt like it..cuz i thought it was AWESOME..spartanssssss what is your professionnnnnnnnnnn..oh sorry got carried away there.

 

[Darthphere]

What surprises me is how badly alot of people on this board have got pulled up in the hype.

The way some people are acting, you would think half of you have never seen an action film before. As far as action goes, there is ALOT better out there.

By the way, my dislike of the film has nothing to do with symbolism, or politics, or homophobia, or racism. Although, that black guy with the white eyes and the blackness and stuff... lol... that seemed kinda funny to me. But anyway, my dislike of the film has nothing to do with any of that.

Its funny you came back and edited this in, when no one accused you of this, odd don't you think, considering all your postings in the Miller is Overrated thread.

Also, the 61% on RT are critic reviews, it had an 86% User review rating. So dont try to lie with numbers.

 

[Darthphere]

That's the most words I've heard out of you on a movie...ever. Odd occurence.

I won't try and deter you from liking this film as some apparently would as I liked it to my own extent, but I don't really feel it compares to any Batman film in any way. Batman Begins was more about exploring the Dark Knight, with the action more as cool eye candy. If you want a really dark film that it's hard to see any of the fights in, Burton's Batman would be the better comparison. Any sequence in 300 (expect for perhaps the erroneous slo-mo battle at the Hot Gates) beats every sequence in Batman Begins because this is a war flick. The two are comic book films, but that's where the comparison comes to an end in many regards.

I wasn't comparing the movie, but you take a scene in 300 like when Leonidas steps out in front and starts decimating Persians in slow-mo (and people seem to ignore the fact that the movie had a lot of fast motion as well, particularly in this scene) and when you compare it to a full speed up close fight scene like in BB, I'd rather have the former.

 

[silver_arrow]

My interest was piqued by the positive word of mouth courtesy of my friends. Although I once read a poem alluding to the 300 spartans, I didn't have any idea this movie was really about the same 300. So when I went there, I was not armed with the knowledge that it was based on the 300 graphic novels. If there was anything I knew of the 300 before watching it, it was that they chose to face their enemies instead of retreating, and died for glory. I wasn't even thinking of freedom, democracy and whatnot. And this is probably the right frame of mind to enjoy such movie because, yeah,I cringed yet enjoyed it.

It looks like a darker and gorier gladiator and braveheart combined. But what's good about the movie is its successful depiction of human valor. 300 or more, still they were few compared to the Persians, and despite their number chose to fight head on to their death. And this has been depicted quite well in the movie. The Persian warriors' monstrosity in number has been painted in different forms to establish an undercurrent of savagery that made the death of the 300 gorier and frightening yet inspiring and moving.

 

[kainedamo]

Its funny you came back and edited this in, when no one accused you of this, odd don't you think, considering all your postings in the Miller is Overrated thread.

Also, the 61% on RT are critic reviews, it had an 86% User review rating. So dont try to lie with numbers.

I guess all that matters to you is the opinion of fanboys on messageboards, who pretty much latch onto every "film of the moment". "OMG!! GREATEST FILM I'VE SEEN!" can be uttered by the same fanboy yearly.

If this film were such a masterpiece, why'd critics tear it apart?

 

[Darthphere]

I guess all that matters to you is the opinion of fanboys on messageboards, who pretty much latch onto every "film of the moment". "OMG!! GREATEST FILM I'VE SEEN!" can be uttered by the same fanboy yearly.

If this film were such a masterpiece, why'd critics tear it apart?

Are you seriously making that argument? So you're telling you dont like any movies that critics panned? I find that incredibly hard to believe.