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Imagine your daughter also being your sister

Kevin Roegele

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Too late, it's already happened.

bbc.co.uk Sunday, 15 October 2006

"A Japanese woman in her 50s gave birth to her own grandchild last year, using an egg from her daughter and sperm from her son-in-law, a doctor has revealed.

It was the first time a woman has acted as a surrogate mother for her daughter in Japan, local media reported.

The case is set to stir debate in Japan where surrogate births are opposed by the government and a key medical group.

Japan's justice ministry also views the woman who gives birth as a child's mother - not the biological mother.

This legal position has led a Japanese celebrity couple to go to the courts to try to win the right to register twins born to a surrogate mother as their own children. Their case is continuing.

Adopted

Yahiro Netsu, the head of the Suwa maternity clinic in Nagano, told a news conference that the woman gave birth last year, Reuters reported.

She had agreed to in vitro fertilisation and to act as a surrogate mother because her daughter had had her uterus removed due to cancer and was therefore unable to bear children.

Both the mother and child were reported to be in good health.

Dr Netsu said the woman had first registered the baby as her own and then the child was adopted by her daughter and son-in-law.

The doctor, who has helped other couples to have children through surrogate mothers, called on the government and the medical authorities to review their stance against surrogacy.

Surrogate births involve removing an egg to be fertilised and then implanting it in another woman who carries the baby to birth. "

Mind-boggling.
 
I don't think it's that strange to be honest, there are many cases where young mothers have their own parents adopt the baby and raise it as their own so I don't see why this would be any different
 
kingman said:
I don't think it's that strange to be honest, there are many cases where young mothers have their own parents adopt the baby and raise it as their own so I don't see why this would be any different

This isn't a case of adoption and law, this is about biology.

Who is the child's real mother?
 
Well, what I gather from this article is the child's DNA is not from the surrogate mother's(who is in this case, also her grandmother) but from the biological mother and the biological father. So, it would seem the kid should be considered the daughter of the biological mother and father.

This is pretty strange though.
 
Maxwell Smart said:
Well, what I gather from this article is the child's DNA is not from the surrogate mother's(who is in this case, also her grandmother) but from the biological mother and the biological father. So, it would seem the kid should be considered the daughter of the biological mother and father.

This is pretty strange though.

And yet, "Japan's justice ministry also views the woman who gives birth as a child's mother - not the biological mother."
 
Imagine my daughter was also my sister?

Why would I want to imagine anything like that? :confused:
 
It happens in Ohio U.S. and Cornwall U.K. I hear all the time! Daughters being sisters that is. Can anyone confirm this?

- Whirly
 
theShape said:
Imagine my daughter was also my sister?

Why would I want to imagine anything like that? :confused:

Why? Why? I'll tell you why. Because I ****ing said so, that's why.

;)
 
Whirlysplat said:
It happens in Ohio U.S. and Cornwall U.K. I hear all the time! Daughters being sisters that is. Can anyone confirm this?

- Whirly


LOL

Yeah, it's pretty common. Also a guy having a wife who is also his brother.
 
Kevin Roegele said:
Why? Why? I'll tell you why. Because I ****ing said so, that's why.

;)

You, sir, have serious psychological problems.

I like it.
 
kingman said:
I don't think it's that strange to be honest, there are many cases where young mothers have their own parents adopt the baby and raise it as their own so I don't see why this would be any different

You don't see the difference in having your parents adopt their grandchildren and your mother giving birth using your own egg and sperm?
 
Kevin Roegele said:
And yet, "Japan's justice ministry also views the woman who gives birth as a child's mother - not the biological mother."

Okay, so maybe I disagree?
 
Cyclops said:
You don't see the difference in having your parents adopt their grandchildren and your mother giving birth using your own egg and sperm?

Yeah, that changes everything. Still, when I read the thread title, I expected to hear something along the lines of a father/daughter collabo.

The case is set to stir debate in Japan where surrogate births are opposed by the government and a key medical group.

I'm wondering how the birth transpired in the first place; does the statement above mean that surrogate births are actually illegal or just strongly opposed by way of influential pressure?
 
Imagine your own brother being your father.
 

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