Investing in Marvel's Future.

[hippie_hunter]

2008 should be solid. Iron Man will make over 150 million and perhaps close to 200 million domestic. It has too much going for it. Hulk seems to me like it's going to move to a Winter 08 release. That's my speculation but that May/June timeframe is getting too crowded. No 3rd party studios have announced a Marvel licensed film yet but I think Daredevil will revert to Marvel in 08/09 if New Regency is still sitting on their ass. Don't be surprised to see Nick Fury suddenly appear on the radar, and Namor is likely for 09/10. This is a 35+ dollar stock by the end of this year and well into the 40's next year.

Superman Returns was expected to be the #1 grossing movie of the year by many publications and look at how that turned out. No one expected Pirates of the Carribean 2 to be one of the highest grossing movies of all time. Warner Bros. expected Poseidon and Lady in the Water to be successes yet they bombed. Just because a movie is made, doesn't mean that it will automatically be a success, the same can be said about it being an automatic failure. We can't just simply predict how much a movie will make.

As I said, if Marvel's movies as a whole (including Captain America, Thor, Nick Fury, the Incredible Hulk, etc.) do well, then Marvel is going to experience degrees of success unimaginable. If they don't, then Marvel is going to go through some tough times.

I too expect Daredevil to revert back to Marvel. 20th Century Fox practically has no interest in working on the franchise anymore since both Daredevil and Elektra weren't that successful.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I knew Superman wasn't going to be #1 grossing film of the year, and I know Iron Man won't be the #1 grossing film of the year either. Brian Singer is not as Godly as everyone seems to think he is, Poseidon was the worst film of the year though it had the potential to be the biggest and they made a horrible film, and Lady in the Water...didn't have the same interest as Signs or 6th sense. The studio thought just the directors name was good enough to make money...they were wrong. I knew that. Iron Man has too much going for it not to make 150-200 million. Anything under or over that is shocking to me. I can predict that with relative ease. The release date is key, the director is a talent, and they're hiring actors to give the film instant cred. None of the stars in the film are major box office draws but the genre is...the stars are a little booster shot.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I knew Superman wasn't going to be #1 grossing film of the year, and I know Iron Man won't be the #1 grossing film of the year either. Brian Singer is not as Godly as everyone seems to think he is, Poseidon was the worst film of the year though it had the potential to be the biggest and they made a horrible film, and Lady in the Water...didn't have the same interest as Signs or 6th sense. The studio thought just the directors name was good enough to make money...they were wrong. I knew that. Iron Man has too much going for it not to make 150-200 million. Anything under or over that is shocking to me. I can predict that with relative ease. The release date is key, the director is a talent, and they're hiring actors to give the film instant cred. None of the stars in the film are major box office draws but the genre is...the stars are a little booster shot.

I'm just saying there is no way we can definetely say that a movie is going to be successful. Look at the Punisher, that movie rocked but it underwhelmed in the box office due to Kill Bill. Then take a look at X-Men: The Last Stand, that movie sucked hardcore yet that movie was extremely successful.

That's not saying that I'm not looking foward to Iron Man, I am extremely looking foward to it.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Im going to say that Marvel`s up trend will continue with Spider-Man 3,but i think Iron Man will be a failure and Marvel will suffer because of this.Similar to the result of the first Fantastic Four movie and Daredevil.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Im going to say that Marvel`s up trend will continue with Spider-Man 3,but i think Iron Man will be a failure and Marvel will suffer because of this.Similar to the result of the first Fantastic Four movie and Daredevil.

Ummmm.....Fantastic Four was a success and Daredevil was a moderate success

 

[Advanced Dark]

Exactly. Fantastic Four's box office was above all analysts expectations, and Daredevil made good money considering the release date and the character. Marvel's only true dud was Elektra. Every other film turned them a profit...most quite handsomely. Punisher made a bundle on DVD.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Analyst initiations 1-25-07: Marvel's superheroes are a Buy

Posted Jan 25th 2007 11:43AM by Kevin Shult
Filed under: Before the bell, Analyst initiations
MOST NOTEWORTHY: Marvel Entertainment Inc (MVL) and Affymetrix Inc (AFFY) were today's most notable initiations:

• Sanders Morris started Marvel Entertainment Inc (NYSE: MVL) with a Buy rating and $34 target on the belief that 2007 guidance is conservative.

 

[hippie_hunter]

For a minute there I thought it said the guys name was Kevin ****

 

[Noir]

I'm going to invest also..

 

[Advanced Dark]

The thing is to buy and hold and not freak out when it goes down a buck one day cause if you sit there and worry over day to day action you'll forget about the long term prospects of the company. This isn't a slot machine it's a long term investment. Marvel will peak when it's consisentenly churning out self financed films as well as the other studio films, has video games coming out timely with each film, etc...However I think Marvel's likely to merge with a larger company or buy out some smaller ones along the way. This is a 100% strong buy for the next few years. Hell even if it went up to 32 tomorrow it's still a buy and hold. I think 2008 we'll have Iron Man & Hulk with Hulk moving to a slightly later date. 2009 and beyond is huge. It'll be even bigger news when Marvel works out what's next for Spidey after part 3, once Namor get's off the ground, and if GR proves to be a bankable franchise. All of these films have potential spin-off's on film or tv.

 

[Noir]

if I buy it, I'm going to keep it for a long time.
I want to be able to say I own a fraction of a percent of Marvel.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I've built up a load of shares I mean thousands and thousands...and I'm buying more. It's actually a steal right now at 28.

 

[Noir]

28 Dollars?
Where can I buy a share?
and how can I buy a share?

Do I get a cool certificate or anything?

How much are they? I'm a n00b at stock market.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ I'd say so. LOL

Anyways you need to fund an account by sending money to somebody like E-Trade, TD-Americtrade, Schwabb, etc...I find TD to be very good. Then investment money that you can tie up long term without effecting your finances. You don't want to be forced to sell because you need the money. Do your research or ask people who know and that you trust for advice and then grab some shares. It's 28 bucks a share. Depending on how old you are even if it's a small amount of money you may wish to stick in in a form of IRA. If your'e young just do that and use it as a long term savings account so you can't ever touch it. Dont' forget to factor in commissions into your cost average. The discount brokerages are the way to go if you know what you're gonna invest in. The best companies for you to invest in are always the one's you know. That's why I love Marvel cause I can find out about details of their pipeline online and get information here and other sites that can help my investment. You can't do that with other companies. There's no websites where you have 40,000 fans digging up info all over the place like this. It's like legal inside info. LOL If I see something's coming out that's exciting and news is iminent...I'll buy more. etc...It's worked out well. My original investment was at $6.08 a share...BEFORE it split 3 for 2. That's about a 700% gain.

 

[Noir]

Okay.
Cool, let me get online and do some googling.
I'm gonna make money off Marvel? That is great.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I'm now wishing that I invested in Marvel during my Junior year when it was about $16.00/$17.00 per share or something close to that

 

[Advanced Dark]

Just make sure again to use only money you can afford to tie up. Also if you have any questions don't invest without getting them answered to your satisfaction. Also once invested dont' panic over daily moves or if one analyst comes out and downgrades it. This has been happening yearly since the stock came out as it does for most other stocks. You have to believe in the company to invest yourself...but don't marry the company either. If things aren't going like you thought (not with the stock price but with the company) then re-evaluate. We all know Spiderman 3 and FF2 are going to be money makers. GR is a question mark and many peoples minds so if it's a hit then that really helps Marvel's brand name quite a bit. Marvel doesn't make a load of money off GR but they do make money off of it and it gives the studios the confidence to keep making comics to film titles from 2nd and sub-tier characters.

 

[Cadetak4712]

You also have to take into consideration the general popularity of the character in question...is Iron-Man recognizable by the general public?

I personally don't think so...but the action and the special effects could sell the movie.

Spidey, X-Men, FF, and Supes are all very recognizable characters. They have had cartoons and video games made about them, their on luchboxes, etc.

Lets face most of the people who see Super hero movies don't read comics...personally I didn't get back into comics until the movies revived my interests.

I'm not sure that Iron man is going to make as much money as everyone thinks...it won't flop though.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Popularity of the character means nothing. It's all in the marketing, and then how good the character is presented on screen. Please tell me Shrek was popular before the 1st film.

 

[Advanced Dark]

http://blog.newsarama.com/2007/01/26/marvel-sues-former-toy-contractor-for-6-million/

Marvel sues former toy partner.

 

[Cadetak4712]

^ Popularity of the character means nothing. It's all in the marketing, and then how good the character is presented on screen. Please tell me Shrek was popular before the 1st film.

That is true. I'm going to guess its going to be presented as a super hero movie like SM and X-Men. One of the big appeal of super hero films is that people recognize the character...would Spider-man have made any money if there wasn't a costume and the main character was a guy named Rob instead of Peter?

Just think about it...why did you see Spider-man? It was because you knew the character. Nobody went to go see SM for the story or any of the regular reason's people see movies...they saw because it was Spider-man. People will see Transformers based on name alone...normally people would laugh at the idea of cars turning into robots.

Iron Man is a different type of super hero though...he's just a guy in a suit with cool weapons. And Tony Stark isn't from the traditional "I'ma good guy and I stop bad guys" type of hero mold.

It depends on how the movie is presented...they have to show people that Iron Man isn't just another super hero.

 

[Advanced Dark]

http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/plus/bgscommentary.aspx?ID=18169

Research update.

 

[Advanced Dark]

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/01/31...

Marvel: A breakout buy for Spiderman
Posted Jan 31st 2007 3:50PM by Steven Halpern
Filed under: Newsletters

Over the past 12 months, Marvel Entertainment Inc. (NYSE: MVL) has lived up to its name, with the stock climbing from $16 to above $27; the stock is now setting up for a breakout and a rally, says Leo Fasciocco -- a technical analyst who looks specifically for stocks that are breaking out from previous resistance areas.

The editor of the Ticker Tape Digest, explains, "The company's success swings on the strength and marketability of its characters. Net income is poised to rise sharply this year, which suggests accumulation of MVL in anticipation of a move higher."

Marvel publishes and licenses products based on its cartoon characters. Fasciocco notes that the firm lends its more than 5,000 characters (Daredevil, Spider-Man, X-Men) to toy development, publishing, and licensing.

The company also licenses its characters to makers of movies, TV shows, clothing, video games, and other products such as toy action figures. Annual revenues are currently $390 million.

Fasciocco explains, "Technically, the stock looks good long-term. After climbing from the 16 level, the stock is now in a 10-week, cup-and-handle base. The base is well defined between 30 and 26. The stock's momentum indicator is bullish."

What most impresses the adviser is that the accumulation - distribution line recently hit a new peak. He notes, "We see that as indicating money is coming into the stock and that MVL is well placed to stage a breakout."

Meanwhile, he believes that the company is poised for an earnings turnaround. He notes that Wall Street analysts are currently predicting a 127% rebound in profits in 2007. He also observes that the stock currently sells with a price-earnings ratio of 19 based on projected 2007 net. He sees that multiple as reasonable.

Fasciocco is also impressed with the institutional ownership of the company, noting that the largest fund holder is 5-star rated Janus Growth & Income Fund with a 4.6% stake. The largest recent buyer, he says, was 4-star rated Oppenheimer Small and Mid Cap Value Fund, which purchased 1 million shares. Also, he notes, 5-star rated Baron Small Cap Fund picked up 700,000 shares, while the company's CEO Isaac Perlmutter owns 28% of the stock.

The adviser recommends the stock for aggressive investors, and suggests starting with a partial position. He would then add to one's position on a breakout above the 30 level.

Steven Halpern follows the financial newsletter advisors and features their latest stock ideas each day on his free website, TheStockAdvisors.com.

Sentiment : Strong Buy

 

[the a1ant]

^ I'd say so. LOL

Anyways you need to fund an account by sending money to somebody like E-Trade, TD-Americtrade, Schwabb, etc...I find TD to be very good. Then investment money that you can tie up long term without effecting your finances. You don't want to be forced to sell because you need the money. Do your research or ask people who know and that you trust for advice and then grab some shares. It's 28 bucks a share. Depending on how old you are even if it's a small amount of money you may wish to stick in in a form of IRA. If your'e young just do that and use it as a long term savings account so you can't ever touch it. Dont' forget to factor in commissions into your cost average. The discount brokerages are the way to go if you know what you're gonna invest in. The best companies for you to invest in are always the one's you know. That's why I love Marvel cause I can find out about details of their pipeline online and get information here and other sites that can help my investment. You can't do that with other companies. There's no websites where you have 40,000 fans digging up info all over the place like this. It's like legal inside info. LOL If I see something's coming out that's exciting and news is iminent...I'll buy more. etc...It's worked out well. My original investment was at $6.08 a share...BEFORE it split 3 for 2. That's about a 700% gain.

I know this wasn't directed at me, but thanks for the info. I had been interested in buying stock for a long time, but never knew how to go about doing it. Thanks

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ No problem. It's not hard either. Just dont' screw around. Alot of people think long term and they buy a stock because they think it'll rise bigtime over the next couple years then the stock goes down a buck one week and they panic and sell. LOL I just bought more today at 27.97 and added to my position. I'm accumulating whenever I can here under 30.