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Iraqi insurgents offer to halt attacks.

deemar325 said:
That is exactly whats happening, it a sign of weakness on their part to even offer a deal albeit one with sinister motives. I've dealt with these f**ks before and you can't trust them, you can barely trust the so-called friendlies.

Starbuck: Starbuck to all Vipers. Do not fire! Repeat, do not fire! I'm a friendly. OK, we're all friendlies, so let's just, be--friendly
 
deemar325 said:
Love is not the answer.


Why do people think that it is?

Because love is cheap.

I bought 10 loves for $200 over the weekend.
 
War Lord said:
For us to walk away when 3,000 soldiers have died, when Iraq is not yet secure, is to really waste their sacrifice as well as wasted the last 3 years because that would only result in Iraq falling into the Islamists hands.

The fact that they are offering a truce, means that they are losing and are now willing to beg for mercy. If they were winning, they wouldn't be offering a truce, they'd be continuing to do as they have been doing.

The best thing we can do is to push forward and get them to admit defeat, because that is the only way to win.

its not a waste of their sacrafice. their sacrafice allowed us to get to this point, where we can have a peaceful 2 years where we can build the country, its government, and its army to the point where they can take care of themselves. isnt that the point of this whole war, anyways? and like i said, if the insurgents are lying, then in 2 years time, they'll have the iraqi army and government to deal with. america has made enough sacrafices for iraq...its about time iraq starts fighting for itself and starts making its own sacrafices for THEIR county and THEIR people.

deemar325 said:
Love is not the answer.
Why do people think that it is?

because the beatles said so. and despite what war lord said....the beatles = truth.
 
War Lord said:
Because love is cheap.

I bought 10 loves for $200 over the weekend.
I think you misspelled the item that you purchased. I think you meant to say that you bought "Luvs" disposable diapers.
 
If you say so..

Alright back on topic.


Insurgents = Shyt

Deemar = Awesome!
 
I feel the one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter argument coming up soon.
 
Darthphere said:
I feel the one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter argument coming up soon.

I wish we could get some UN peacekeepers into the area to keep all this freedoming to a minimum:(
 
Darthphere said:
I feel the one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter argument coming up soon.

Sorry but a terrorist is a terrorist, nothing more. There is no "freedom fighting" involved in it.
 
Fred_Fury said:
Sorry but a terrorist is a terrorist, nothing more. There is no "freedom fighting" involved in it.


Sorry, but thats naive and doesnt take into account a different point of view.
 
JLBats said:
I wish we could get some UN peacekeepers into the area to keep all this freedoming to a minimum:(


Damn freedom fighters!:mad:
 
Darthphere said:
Sorry, but thats naive and doesnt take into account a different point of view.

no its not naive, its common sense and logic.
 
Fred_Fury said:
no its not naive, its common sense and logic.


Not really, if some occupying force came into the US and there were rebels fighting lets say China, what would you call them?
 
StorminNorman said:
I am normally a very strong advocate about not pulling out until the mission is gone, but I think this is a chance we should take.

It would, however, be stupid not to leave a good amount of troops in Kuwait ready to go if the terrorists make any move to topple the government.

I've never been a sig quote before...I feel cool now...thanks Norman! :D
 
Darthphere said:
Not really, if some occupying force came into the US and there were rebels fighting lets say China, what would you call them?

so fighting to opress women, jews, christians and different sects of Islam is freedom fighting now... nice logic there, you make a lot of sense. :rolleyes:
 
Fred_Fury said:
so fighting to opress women and minorities is freedom fighting now... nice logic there, you make a lot of sense. :rolleyes:


Answer the question.
 
Darthphere said:
Answer the question.

Depends, are the rebels fighting to chop off the heads of jews and force women to put rages on their head?
 
Fred_Fury said:
Depends, are the rebels fighting to chop off the heads of jews and force women to put rages on their head?


Answer the question.
 
I would call them freedom fighters if they were fighting for freedom. Because America is a free country. Now lets say the USA occupied Germany and they had insurgents fighting to bring back nazism, are they "freedom fighters"? Hell no. Just like the terrorists in Iraq arent freedom fighters, they're fighting for something, and it definately aint freedom. The only freedom fighters in Iraq are American soldiers and Iraqi soldiers fighting alongside them.
 
Fred_Fury said:
I would call them freedom fighters if they were fighting for freedom. Because America is a free country. Now lets say the USA occupied Germany and they had insurgents fighting to bring back nazi ideals, are they "freedom fighters"? Hell no. Just like the terrorists in Iraq arent freedom fighters, they're fighting for something, and it definately aint freedom.


Was that so hard?
 
Darthphere said:
Was that so hard?
A terrorist is not a freedom fighter. I just explained why, if you cant figure it out I dont know whats wrong with you.
 
Fred_Fury said:
A terrorist is not a freedom fighter. I just explained why, if you cant figure it out I dont know whats wrong with you.


It depends on the point of view and you must understand that there are some iraqi's who believe these insurgents are freedom fighters becuase theyre fighting for the way of life they had before the US rolled in. I agree that theyre fighting to do horrible things, but thats our point of view. Thus, why the one mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter argument always comes up in these discussions.
 

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