The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Is the movie really that chessy?

[Spider-Aziz]

Overall? No
SpideyK's avatar material? Yes

What was cheesy about Goblin? That line about Spider-Man being a fraud? Its a Spider-Man movie, they are not going to have him say f you Spider-Man or something in a Spider-Man movie what else should he have said? What else was so cheesy about Goblin. Rhino I didn't really find cheesy but he was in the movie for like 5 second and he is a cheesy villain in the comics anyway.

"Spider blood saves me from dying, but I ...Harry Osborn.... turn green and decide I should wear armored costume and fly a glider"

To explain it in cartoony dialogue

 

[spiderman2]

Overall? No
SpideyK's avatar material? Yes"Spider blood saves me from dying, but I ...Harry Osborn.... turn green and decide I should wear armored costume and fly a glider"

To explain it in cartoony dialogue

spider man betrade him he felt like because he felt like he could save him and that he didn't so it made him fell desspert. When people are desspert they will do crazy stupid things and the armored costume healed him that is not chessy man come on now. How people say this movie is chessy is behond me I just don't get it at all.

 

[Frodo]

The cheese in Raimi movies fit seamlessly with their tone.

ASM 2 oscillates between Iron Man like natural, ad libbed conversation, and Batman forever like over-the-top-ness. It feels like we are switching between two different movies.

True. Sony was trying to have its cake and eat it too.

They wanted the high spirit of the Raimi films, yet the grounded drama and reality of the Nolan films, yet the world building and set up aspects of the MCU, and villains that were a throwback to the Schumacer years. If they were always weak and lame villains in the comics, then they probably shouldn't have been used in the film to begin with.

 

[Da Games Elite]

I didn't have as huge a problem with the movie as apparently everyone else did (I actually really liked it). But the cheese this time around felt natural in the movie for me. Sure, some things could have been toned down a bit, but I also think that the pizza scene from Spider-Man 2 contained more concentrated cheese than all of TASM2 collectively.

The movie has some serious flaws, though, and that is why a lot of people seem upset. Did it bother me? Nope. I know a lot of other people outside forums seemed to really enjoy it. I think it's partly because we're so overcritical of films that we dissect it so thoroughly.

...though I fail to see a lack of growth in Peter Parker. I think he advanced as a character pretty far over the course of the story. He had his ups, downs, learned to move on from his parents, had to deal with people reacting to his problems realistically, and, in the end, had to see that life goes on after tragedy strikes. If anything, he grew as a character more over the course of this one film than Peter Parker in just about the whole Raimi trilogy, who started as a dork who didn't know how to get the girl, and remained a dork who doesn't know how to get the girl. The fact that Peter is willing to move to England just to make Gwen happy alone proves that he's grown a lot from the start, where he basically expected Gwen just to deal with his double life essentially on his terms.

rant over. xD

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

I don't know. I don't remember them playing chess in it...

 

[UltimateWebhead]

For the love of god, Cheesy


Chee-sy

CHEESY

LOL. This was bothering me too.

I don't know. I don't remember them playing chess in it...

 

[GremlinZilla89]

How anyone can praise Spider-Man 2, an exercise in awkward cheese, dialogue, moments and acting but damn TASM2 as the next Batman and Robin is beyond me. utterly beyond me.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I think you forgot some stuff


Like before Spider-Man 2, you needed "The Amazing", and for TASM, you meant "Raimi's Spider-Man".

LOL. This was bothering me too.

Like 4 serious

 

[GremlinZilla89]

I think you forgot some stuff


Like before Spider-Man 2, you needed "The Amazing", and for TASM, you meant "Raimi's Spider-Man".





Like 4 serious

No. I know exactly what I said. Thank you anyway.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Blame that on the writers. When you have the guys who also wrote for the Transformers movies then you should expect some ADHD cheese.

That makes sense. I did not know they had written for Transformers.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I don't know. I don't remember them playing chess in it...

Someone had to say it

 

[Lord]

spider man betrade him he felt like because he felt like he could save him and that he didn't so it made him fell desspert. When people are desspert they will do crazy stupid things and the armored costume healed him that is not chessy man come on now. How people say this movie is chessy is behond me I just don't get it at all.

Yes it was, Goblin sudenly turns after putting the blood, then right in front of him happens to be a suit that can save him, he happens to try it while he's dying and it just so happens to be what saves his life, then he goes on being the Final boss for Spider-Man to defeat, even though he had just learned that Peter's blood would have just killed him if he hadn't been lucky enough to get that suit.

There's also Oscorp creating all this villain gear for some reason, how will that go? "Hey who wantz ta be Doctor Octopus? Let's kill Spider-Man! Here are some metal wings, you're called the Vulture now..."

 

[spiderman2]

Yes it was, Goblin sudenly turns after putting the blood, then right in front of him happens to be a suit that can save him, he happens to try it while he's dying and it just so happens to be what saves his life, then he goes on being the Final boss for Spider-Man to defeat, even though he had just learned that Peter's blood would have just killed him if he hadn't been lucky enough to get that suit.

There's also Oscorp creating all this villain gear for some reason, how will that go? "Hey who wantz ta be Doctor Octopus? Let's kill Spider-Man! Here are some metal wings, you're called the Vulture now..."

You could already see that he was kind of crazy even before he became the goblin and he knew about the suit because of the cube thing he got form his dad so it wasn't just there. While the oscorp stuff should be explaind in asm 3 or sinister six.

 

[AnneFan]

I eat cheese while playing chess.

 

[747]

It's not the movie's biggest problem. But, while it's not THAT much, the movie has quite some terrible cheese. Cause what most people consider cheese isn't a problem of mine per se, but in this film I find it dumb, out-of-place, overall lacking in context and lacking any kind of charm.

The cheese feels like a relic from the worst stuff of the 90s, just being over-the-top and silly for the heck of it.

With that said, the movie is such a mess that I actually enjoy both Dane and Paul embracing the material and at least having some fun with it. Jamie plays Electro much more straight-faced so his bad stuff suffers much more.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I eat cheese while playing chess.

is it blue chess?

 

[Milu]

Cheesy!

 

[spiderral]

The term 'cheesy' never came to mind when I first viewed the film, maybe it will do in the second viewing but I'm sure I would have picked up on the 'cheesiness' the first time round.
Spider-Man is, overall, a lighthearted character so if there were any cheesy moments present in the film, I don't think it would have felt out of place.
E.g., when Peter clicks his heels after stopping the Oscorp employees from going after Gwen, sure, that may have been seen as cheesy but I saw it more as lighthearted and fun and after TASM1, which set a slightly darker, more grounded tone for Spidey, I'm glad they went with the 'fun' route for TASM2. The tone for TASM1 never really did it for me; SM1 and TASM2's tones are more along the lines of what I'd expect in a Spidey film.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

No more cheesy than SM1 and SM2 combined.

 

[spiderman2]

Even this thread show just how dived people opinus are on this movie.

 

[W/ Great Power]

There's also Oscorp creating all this villain gear for some reason, how will that go? "Hey who wantz ta be Doctor Octopus? Let's kill Spider-Man! Here are some metal wings, you're called the Vulture now..."

That's something that I've been thinking about ever since I saw this film myself: why the hell did Oscorp have a basement full of the next big villains or possibly the S6, before Harry even turned into the Goblin?

This is why I really wanted to see the line, "We have plans for you, Peter Parker" that we saw Mr. Fierce say in the trailer, actually be used in the film.

Furthermore, when Harry reaches the basement with Menken, he asks, "What is all this?" to which Menken replies, "The future."

Obviously Oscorp has some kind of motives to either kill Spider-Man or maybe Mr. Fierce and Harry aren't the only one who know that Peter is Spider-Man

 

[Human Torch]

They overcompensated for the dour dreck that was TASM,but the cheese wasn't as excessive as to be unbearable. (as some would have you believe)

 

[spiderman2]

They overcompensated for the dour dreck that was TASM,but the cheese wasn't as excessive as to be unbearable. (as some would have you believe)

While that's the thing with what people say about this movie they act like it is has cheesy has power rangers or the old tmnt movies or something.

 

[Frodo]

All the films have had a degree of cheese to them. As much as fans characterize ASM as being serious and gritty, you still have a giant talking Lizard with a Welsh accent as your villain, who would seem more at home in a Ninja Turtles film. Yes, I know he's from the comics, but I'd actually say that was more cheesy than Electro or Rhino. I just think Electro and Rhino were campy as opposed to cheesy.

 

[AnneFan]

the cheese wasn't as excessive as to be unbearable. (as some would have you believe)

Agreed. I think it would be a sad day, especially for Spider-Man, if all 'cheese' was omitted for fear of falling flat or offending.

Spidey with a cold fighting crime, holding a fish, lying about the chimey - I ate all that stuff up.