BvS Is there ANY chance of reintroducing/introducing THIS Batman?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Sine the connection from Nolan/Bale will need to be broken... Do you see them doing a few flashback scenes or something that will show how he became THIS Batman? Any ideas of how to do this?

 

[D.P.]

I personally wouldn't touch on it. We know all we need to know.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

But Goyer said it was a different universe for this Batman (same one that MOS Superman is in) and will be set far apart from Nolanverse. That makes me wonder if they need to show his difference from that real world Batman.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

With a new world Batman, we can actually see a character like Clayface YES!

 

[Neno_Kos]

Different costume (I preffer Arkham suit) and guy under the cowl will do the justice. He just need to speak few words like healty people speak, not like they have cancer and Nolanite Batman [is gone] Forever.

 

[D.P.]

But Goyer said it was a different universe for this Batman (same one that MOS Superman is in) and will be set far apart from Nolanverse. That makes me wonder if they need to show his difference from that real world Batman.

True. I think him being in the same universe as Superman already sets him apart from the Nolan Bats right away. Nolan Batman would never coexist with an alien.

They can delve deeper into the differences in the solo films.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Mention Robin. That already makes it a different character

 

[D.P.]

Mention Robin. That already makes it a different character

That would get a HUGE reaction in theaters across America on opening day if an easter egg mentioning Robin was included.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Sine the connection from Nolan/Bale will need to be broken... Do you see them doing a few flashback scenes or something that will show how he became THIS Batman? Any ideas of how to do this?

I think a pre-credits scene could be ski-mask-stage Bruce taking out some thugs in an alley, merely calling himself "a detective" when asked by the person he saves who's scared of him. He then comes home to the cave to see Supes on the tv, taking off his ski-mask (revealing the new actor) and being startled by a bat behind him, giving him the idea of putting on a cape.

Also, release that as the first teaser.

 

[Lencho01]

I don't see what needs to be done to show that this a different Batman when Bale or JGL are nowhere to be found...

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

How about showing a montage of GLIMPSES (without seeing their faces) of Batman fighting villains of Gotham. You could see Joker in a more traditional look, CGI Clayface, Penguin, etc... Just have to hide the faces since we don't have permanent casting. Enough of a look to recognize the villains, but just enough to tease. I think that would do it.

 

[Tempest]

Why does everyone want a flipping montage scene? We need montages of Superman saving people, since some people are too dumb to grasp that Superman saves people. Now we need a montage to show Batman's origins?

Ugh. I do not want the film to lose track by getting too in-depth with Batman's history and past.

A few sentences by Lex Luthor meeting with Batman and discussing how Superman is an uncontrollable threat, with Luthor mentioning how long Batman has been fighting crime, would be fine.

Unless they do a set up like MOS, where the first 15 minutes is all back story.

 

[Glassjaw]

I think they'll re-introduce him, but in an original, short concise way. Much like MoS's flashbacks were probably done because so many people knew the origin and rather then a straight up telling of it, they could try something new, I think something similar will happen here.

Cavill is now established as a great Superman. If you just plop Affleck's Batman in a scene with him straight away, everyone will be going 'hey look there's Ben Affleck.' We need a short introduction so we can be completely on board with this new Batman, and after those short few minutes, we never have to look back.

 

[Tobias]

Not in the sense of a young Batman but yes in the sense he will be different from the Bale Batman.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I don't mind if we get a quick flashback to his parents deaths or the scene of the bat crashing through his window. But I don't think you really need anything more than that.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

2 or 3 flashbacks, nothing more is necessary. We don't really need to see how this Batman became Batman.

 

[DigificWriter]

I don't think we'll see much in the way of a specific 'origin setup' for Batman in THIS movie, but we'll probably get some references to his previous experiences.

 

[AnneFan]

I don't mind if we get a quick flashback to his parents deaths or the scene of the bat crashing through his window. But I don't think you really need anything more than that.

I agree. And really, it could be brought across simply in a snippet of dialogue such as "I know what pain is, I've carried it around my whole life" or whatever.

 

[marvelrobbins]

The reason they are rebooting batman In a batman and superman film instead of a solo batman film Is partly so they don't have to rehash the origin.

 

[roach]

There's no need to rehash the origin...look at the flack Amazing Spider-man got for pretty much doing the same thing.

 

[shauner111]

With a new world Batman, we can actually see a character like Clayface YES!

I doubt it. I just don't see the studio (not this soon anyhow, not for a long time) signing off on a villain whos name is "Clay...Face".

I don't see the general audience reacting in a way other than laughter when they hear a mud-pile, shape shifting monster named Clayface is the villain, and there's no personal connection to Batman/Bruce Wayne other than something he has to solve. Also known as "villain of the month".

I like Clayface in B:TAS and even his original concept, but I don't see it happening unless it's a cameo. Im thinking we're getting a Gotham City that is even grittier than Nolan's, directed by Affleck. And the sci-fi elements will come out of Batman's gadgets and other superheroes who exist outside of the city.

At the most we'll get a slightly different Mr. Freeze and a grounded Brian Azzarello version of Killer Croc. No Man-Bat's etc.

 

[AnneFan]

I'm not so sure about that, shauner. Whether or not they choose Clayface specifically remains to be seen. But I can see this being more 'elevated' than Nolan's take, especially as Superman is a reality in this continuity.

 

[shauner111]

Elevated, yeah I think Batman will feel more sci-fi with his gadgets. More than Nolan's. I think Batman himself will feel more comic booky. Him existing in a world that has aliens, and super-heroes with super-powers. Yes. But im almost positive Affleck will be directing these movies, and his style is even grittier and down to earth than Nolan. I don't see monsters existing in that Gotham.

WB are obviously gonna try to continue Nolan's realistic style for at least the Batman movies after the success of the trilogy. General audiences have been responding more to that style. So they'll continue it for the solo films. They'll just elevate Batman as the world's greatest detective and as a fighter and gadget man (minus Lucius Fox) in order to tango with the likes of Superman and to make it different from Bale. Changing the voice is another thing.

Ill bet ANYTHING that WB and Affleck together will not care for Clayface, Killer Croc, Solomon Grundy, Mad Hatter, Poison Ivy or Man Bat. Mr Freeze is only a maybe if they figure out a way to use his suit in a logical way, which they can. But I don't see the studio trusting in Freeze just yet when there's other big rogues to do. Riddler, Penguin, Joker, etc will probably be the priority.

 

[shauner111]

Affleck is not a stylized filmmaker. His Gotham will look closer to the comics but still kind of like Nolan's. It wont be like Burton's or even the Arkham games. Even Metropolis and Smallville are pretty realistic looking cities in MOS. Hence why Detroit is being scouted for Gotham.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Affleck is not a stylized filmmaker. His Gotham will look closer to the comics but still kind of like Nolan's. It wont be like Burton's or even the Arkham games. Even Metropolis and Smallville are pretty realistic looking cities in MOS. Hence why Detroit is being scouted for Gotham.

I'd envision his Gotham as sort of a super-sized take on the grittiness we got in the Town for example.

Hell the nun outfits in that film look like they would have made some fine super-villain henchmen.