Is Zorro a Superhero?

[ChrisBaleBatman]

i really don't think V could be considered a superhero, even though he may have super abilities. he's a freedom fighter and a symbol of revolution, a folk hero, like Zorro.

I think he's considered one, though.

The only reason I think he might NOT be considered one is simply b/c of his extreme methods. It'd be like the Punisher (is he hero or not?) argument thing.

Btw, here's that comic Wesyeed mentioned.

 

[Orko Is King]

NO! Neither is Batman or Punisher.

They're all costumed vigilantes.

 

[Grim Goblin]

I think he's considered one, though.

The only reason I think he might NOT be considered one is simply b/c of his extreme methods. It'd be like the Punisher (is he hero or not?) argument thing.

Btw, here's that comic Wesyeed mentioned.

Yeah I have that mini (interesting read too) so I don't deny that Zorro DID fight someone who was more than human. Except that unlike Batman, it happened ONCE. While Bats, even though he generally sticks to normal crooks, still ends up tackling meta-humans and threats that are beyond what your typical cop would handle, on a monthly basis.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

And Zorro fights characters that really, no other person in his realm can stand up to.

My question would be.....if Batman is a vigilante, why isn't Superman a vigilante? Or....is he?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Btw, anyone watch the Novella they give of Zorro on Telemundo?

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Actually superheroes have to be super. They have to be able to do what ordinary men cannot. That is what superheroe..to me means. Batman is just a hero there is nothing super about him no matter how fit or what human peak he is in.

So everyone can have great physical strength, super agility, unmatched detective skills, and unlimited neverending bravery? Maybe people can have these individual skills, but not altogether like Batman, which is only part of what makes him a superhero. Batman = superhero, thus Zorro = superhero.

You quote Ludicris in your sig, so maybe I can understand your confusion.

 

[DarthRekal]

No, he's mexican.

History 101... California was part of Mexico before it was part of the United States

Yes he's a superhero.... before comics..mexicans have been tellin this legend a looooong time and i agree if batman is then so is Zorro

 

[cryptic name]

So everyone can have great physical strength, super agility, unmatched detective skills, and unlimited neverending bravery? Maybe people can have these individual skills, but not altogether like Batman, which is only part of what makes him a superhero. Batman = superhero, thus Zorro = superhero.

You quote Ludicris in your sig, so maybe I can understand your confusion.

but Zorro doesn't have all those skills either. he's an unrivaled swordsman and a great athlete and rider, but he's not at peak strength, or speed/agility, and there are smarter people around.

 

[Warhammer]

I've changed my mind from the first page.
Zorro definitely IS a superhero. It's a matter of opinion, really.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

A Superhero is simply a character based on Superman.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

but Zorro doesn't have all those skills either. he's an unrivaled swordsman and a great athlete and rider, but he's not at peak strength, or speed/agility, and there are smarter people around.

Untrue.

Zorro is at peak physical condition too. He's fast and is agile like.....well...a Zorro.

Zorro's also a detective, the dude's always spying on the opposition and gathering information to figure stuff out, while also gathering clues to figure out master plans.

He's smart dude too. He just hides it the same way Bruce does. By acting like a playboy.

 

[William15]

Maybe Zorro can guest star on Smallville instead of Bruce Wayne... *Goes to Smallville forum*

 

[LostSon88]

Well, Clark DID dress up as Zorro last season.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

History 101... California was part of Mexico before it was part of the United States

Yes he's a superhero.... before comics..mexicans have been tellin this legend a looooong time and i agree if batman is then so is Zorro

no way!

 

[Majik1387]

Zorro and James Bond are not super heroes.

Batman is a superhero.

Just because Batman is one, it doesn't make the other two.

 

[DarthRekal]

Zorro and James Bond are not super heroes.

Batman is a superhero.

Just because Batman is one, it doesn't make the other two.

Zorro=Batman Minus the Money and Gadgets

 

[LostSon88]

The way I see it...

YES

YES

DEBATABLE

 

[Majik1387]

Zorro=Batman Minus the Money and Gadgets

Umm, no.

The way I see it...

YES

YES

DEBATABLE

People, take a look at Zorro's rogue gallery. Then James Bond. Then Batman.

Zorro is a hero yes, but not a superhero.

James Bond is a hero yes. His rogues sometimes have a crazy high skill or robotic arm or something, but they're normal people with a little something extra. He's a hero, nothing more.

Batman's rogues range from normal to superpowered villains. He's a dignified supehero. The other two have nothing on him.

 

[DarthRekal]

wrong maj.... batman has joker??? doesnt have super powers..hes just crazy... catwoman?? an overrated gymnast...penguin??? a highly intelligent little person.... riddler??? a maniacal prankster..... very normal stuff just deranged... also the gadgets Bats villains use are a sign of the times..im sure if Zorro was "modern day" he'd have a Utility Belt too.. and his villains would have some high tech traps and mechanism to use against him as well... you cant compare era's... it's an age old debate... if you place bats in Zorro's era... you come up with the same thing.. as i see it.. Zorro is a victim of circumstance in your eyes

 

[Majik1387]

wrong maj.... batman has joker??? doesnt have super powers..hes just crazy... catwoman?? an overrated gymnast...penguin??? a highly intelligent little person.... riddler??? a maniacal prankster..... very normal stuff just deranged... also the gadgets Bats villains use are a sign of the times..im sure if Zorro was "modern day" he'd have a Utility Belt too.. and his villains would have some high tech traps and mechanism to use against him as well... you cant compare era's... it's an age old debate... if you place bats in Zorro's era... you come up with the same thing.. as i see it.. Zorro is a victim of circumstance in your eyes

See, you're just picking out his unpowered villains. Zorro undoubtedly would not be able to take on someone like Clayface or Poison Ivy.

 

[DarthRekal]

See, you're just picking out his unpowered villains. Zorro undoubtedly would not be able to take on someone like Clayface or Poison Ivy.

give him bats gadgets and he would.... and clayface and poison ivy again..sign of the times..made by POLLUTION and MODERN chemicals

 

[LostSon88]

And why is that? What makes his skill and abilities anymore different than Batman?

At the end of the day, both men are two guys who use what resources they have to fight evil. They're both athletic and agile, wealthy, intelligent, skilled fighters...the only reason Zorro doesn't have any "toys" is because he doesn't need them.

And as exemplified in the above images with Dracula, Zorro has taken on supernatural threats in his history...who's to say he wouldn't be able to take on a Clayface or Poison Ivy?

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

but Zorro doesn't have all those skills either. he's an unrivaled swordsman and a great athlete and rider, but he's not at peak strength, or speed/agility, and there are smarter people around.

Well, he still has that combination that no one else around does, or there would be several Zorros. He may not have peal strength or agility, but I'd say he has more of it than a lot of people around. Plus he has the DESIRE, DRIVE, and BRAVERY to be a superhero.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Maybe Zorro can guest star on Smallville instead of Bruce Wayne... *Goes to Smallville forum*

Too late. Welling already dressed up as him in a Halloween party-episode. The one about vampires.

Kryptonite.......Vampires.....ahem...

Zorro and James Bond are not super heroes.

Batman is a superhero.

Just because Batman is one, it doesn't make the other two.

Nah....I personally feel they all are. Bond does **** nobody else can. Same as Zorro. Different methods.......which is why the debate exists.

Zorro=Batman Minus the Money and Gadgets

Actually....Zorro does have the money and the gadgets. Thing is, the gadgets are cventuries old for us, lol.

People, take a look at Zorro's rogue gallery. Then James Bond. Then Batman.

Zorro is a hero yes, but not a superhero.

James Bond is a hero yes. His rogues sometimes have a crazy high skill or robotic arm or something, but they're normal people with a little something extra. He's a hero, nothing more.

I dunno.....they both do extraordinary ****.....and, I don't feel a rouges gallery is what makes and breaks a superhero. I think they can add to it, obviously.

Batman's rogues range from normal to superpowered villains. He's a dignified supehero. The other two have nothing on him.

People would still argue that, though. Some don't consider him to be a superhero hero....b/c he's not super.

See, you're just picking out his unpowered villains. Zorro undoubtedly would not be able to take on someone like Clayface or Poison Ivy.

Him being an 1800's Californian wouldn't have anything to do with that, now would it.....?

Well, he still has that combination that no one else around does, or there would be several Zorros. He may not have peal strength or agility, but I'd say he has more of it than a lot of people around. Plus he has the DESIRE, DRIVE, and BRAVERY to be a superhero.

Well, the thing is that Zorro does have all those things.

The man is at peak physical condition too. Atleast, as PEAKED as anyone can be in the 1800's. He does spins, 360 back flips in mid air, swings around with his whip from tree branch to hacienda's.

Look at the way he moved in the old Guy Williams show, or even better the way he moved in The Mask of Zorro and the Legend of Zorro. The character is a gymnast, being able to move around like a Zorro (Fox).

And, I'd argue this too. Zorro may normally fight "normies".......but he's always outnumbered. How many times has he had to escape from a little coutryard with atleast 30 armed soliders all trying to kill him at once?

Alot.

 

[Warhammer]

Zorro not being the same as Bats is ludicrous.