Isn't it safe to assume that TIME TRAVEL will NEVER be possible?

[StrainedEyes]

I think it's believed that maybe someday far off we may be able to travel to the future. But traveling to the past is near impossible due to all the paradox problems.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

If one believes that at some point in mans history, this great scientific achievement will be possible, isn't it safe to assume that someone should already know about it-in our time?

Think about it, someone from say the year 2800, would have undoutable already been (Or may still be here) and have inter-reacted with someone with the government, so someone from our time should already know time travel will be possible in the future, right?

But here's my thing, IF TIME TRAVEL is one day conceivable, why then did, say '911' still take place? I picked that day because it will be forever mark as a historic day in US history, so someone from the future should know of it. It seems to me that TIME TRAVEL may NEVER be possible due to all the horrific events that have happened over the last few centuries, which could have been easily been prevented by someone coming back in time with the preconcieved knowledge of when, where and how these events take place......

...don't you agree?
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Maybe there will be rescrictions on time travel?

Maybe altering an event like '911' will seriously jepodize other future events if prevented?

Maybe someone DID try and prevent some great, historical atrocity, and succeeded in a way. What we deem as horrific, they deemed as an OK outcome-as, ORIGINALLY, the event turned out alot worse?

Your thoughts....

Imagine if someone who dislikes the USA had a time machine,they could easily assissinate Bush before he became President and save perhaps countless lives.Perhaps people forget 9/11 in the year 2800,people said the Alamo and Pearl Harbour would always be remembered,but they fade in time.9/11 will go the same way.

Who knows,perhaps there is time travlers among us right now,but they cant mention it,otherwise time would be effected,thus changing their future.You should not have asked such a question,few people here tend to understand something this deep.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

The way I think time travel will be made possible(if at all) begins with sending data first. We'll figure out how to send data(e-mails, voicemails, messages of some sort) to the past or future. Then comes the really hard part. We'll find out how to reduce humans down to data and transport them to another location(teleportation...about damn time!) This will have MANY fatal failures resulting in dismemberment and misplaced limbs. Then, it'll simply be a matter of sending humans(as data) to the past or future.

Woot!

 

[Iceman]

Imagine if someone who dislikes the USA had a time machine,they could easily assissinate Bush before he became President and save perhaps countless lives.Perhaps people forget 9/11 in the year 2800,people said the Alamo and Pearl Harbour would always be remembered,but they fade in time.9/11 will go the same way.

Who knows,perhaps there is time travlers among us right now,but they cant mention it,otherwise time would be effected,thus changing their future.You should not have asked such a question,few people here tend to understand something this deep.

Even if there were people from the future here, they'd have a hard job convincing everyone in the present. Everybody's a doubter nowadays so even radically advanced tech would be put down to something like secretly funded private research.

Any predictions that someone from the future makes about events that happened in the future could be altered by people becoming aware that those events are a possibility.

On the disaster prevention side, if you prevent a 911, it's probable that noone would believe that there ever could have been a 911 in the first place.

 

[Golgo-13]

Even if there were people from the future here, they'd have a hard job convincing everyone in the present. Everybody's a doubter nowadays so even radically advanced tech would be put down to something like secretly funded private research.

Any predictions that someone from the future makes about events that happened in the future could be altered by people becoming aware that those events are a possibility.

On the disaster prevention side, if you prevent a 911, it's probable that noone would believe that there ever could have been a 911 in the first place.

Your right it's a catch 22 with what you said about 911. If someone prevents it, you'll claim it would never happen to start with. If someone predicts it, you'll think they were part of the plan to bomb the building in the first place, thus explaining how they would have that knowledge.

But there is a way of proving the someone is from the future: the accurate prediction of a catasphrophic NATURAL DISTATER. No one can control the weather, or the elements. So lets' say a time traveler has knowledge of a gigantic earthquake the rips the west coast USA a new one. It would be hard to shrug that knowledge off. Even weather forecasters can't accurately predict the weather, only someone that has historical knowledge of an event like the 'Sunami' as Asia, beforehand, would know it was coming way before it actually even showed up on radar....

 

[Ronny Shade]

Here's the ultimate paradox, this will tie your head in knots.

Maybe the reason there haven't been any time travellers yet is because we haven't built a machine to recieve them from the future.

So we don't need to build a time machine, just a reciever. And as soon as we get someone from the future, they can show us how to build a time machine.

And when we ask who invented it, they'll say no-one did, the time machine they help us build is the one used in the future to send them back to our time.

That's an awesome idea waiting to have a movie made about it. I suggest you get on that.

 

[Kent]

But there is a way of proving the someone is from the future: the accurate prediction of a catasphrophic NATURAL DISTATER. No one can control the weather, or the elements. So lets' say a time traveler has knowledge of a gigantic earthquake the rips the west coast USA a new one. It would be hard to shrug that knowledge off. Even weather forecasters can't accurately predict the weather, only someone that has historical knowledge of an event like the 'Sunami' as Asia, beforehand, would know it was coming way before it actually even showed up on radar....

The is that the sheer amount of cooks professing to know the future means a prediction would have to be very precise.
If this supposed time traveller, for instance, predicted the earthquake down to the very year, month, day and minute (maybe we could permit a five minute bar of error or something), as well as location, then I'd probably be impressed. But simply saying "Large earthquake on the west cost in the year 2011" for instance, wouldn't really impress me a lot if it ended up being true.

If you'd allow the prediction to only be the year it happens, then the fact that we're expecting the big one to hit California any year now, combined with the amount of cooks making predictions would mean that one of said cooks being right would not only be non-impressive, it might actually be likely.

EDIT: Changed a borked quotation.

 

[Iceman]

Your right it's a catch 22 with what you said about 911. If someone prevents it, you'll claim it would never happen to start with. If someone predicts it, you'll think they were part of the plan to bomb the building in the first place, thus explaining how they would have that knowledge.

But there is a way of proving the someone is from the future: the accurate prediction of a catasphrophic NATURAL DISTATER. No one can control the weather, or the elements. So lets' say a time traveler has knowledge of a gigantic earthquake the rips the west coast USA a new one. It would be hard to shrug that knowledge off. Even weather forecasters can't accurately predict the weather, only someone that has historical knowledge of an event like the 'Sunami' as Asia, beforehand, would know it was coming way before it actually even showed up on radar....

Yeah good point. Predicting the exact date of a natural disaster far enough into the future that current detection systems cannot stretch to would convince a lot of people (the scientists at least). This is still an example of technology though (disaster prediction tech) and you'd be surprised how many excuses people can come up with when faced with a truth that they're not comfortable with.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Time Travellers are here all the time. We cavemen think they're "aliens" in "UFOs".
They're not "aliens" they're the human race, evolved for who knows how many years.

This is also why millions say they've encountered aliens, and it's undeniable that weird flying things are seen in the sky and on radar, but there's no hard evidence, 'cause there are a few rogue Time Travellers who break the rules till they're caught, but for the most part they don't want to risk changing the future by "landing on the White House lawn".
They only want to to observe the past, much like we wouldn't want to screw up our present, but would love to go back and see the crucifiction, or the crusades, or dinosaurs, so we'd just hover around observing.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Mr. Applewhite???

 

[Golgo-13]

Imagine if someone who dislikes the USA had a time machine,they could easily assissinate Bush before he became President and save perhaps countless lives.Perhaps people forget 9/11 in the year 2800,people said the Alamo and Pearl Harbour would always be remembered,but they fade in time.9/11 will go the same way.

Who knows,perhaps there is time travlers among us right now,but they cant mention it,otherwise time would be effected,thus changing their future.You should not have asked such a question,few people here tend to understand something this deep.

It is deep, which is why it must be bumped.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Well, its plausable that people could go back in time, but they wouldn't change anything, because their own time would be the future to the past that theyd traveled back to...
ummm that sounds confusing even to me... this says it a lot clearer...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novikov_self-consistency_principle

give it a read = very interesting.

Naturally it will all be well regulated aswell to avoid trying to change things... well itd have to be. These days people are so dumb that give it a year and people would be like "look at us, the shame, eating all this food... when people back in medieval times are starving and living in mud" and before long people would have set up charities to raise money to send clothes and food packages back in time to the poor underprivileged medieval peasants and prehistoric cavemen.

 

[Mike_D202]

Philidelphia Experiment.

 

[Super_Child]

If time travel IS possible, you will not be able to travel into the future because it hasn't happened yet. And travel into the past would be possible but limited, if u were using a time machine I dont think you would be able to travel back to a point before the time machine was created. So what would be the use?

That just comes from my understanding of science which is pretty limited.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Sure you can...by speeding up time. You have to go real fast to do it but it is possible...just not by us yet. The future to me is the easy part...going back is possible only by slowing down time to where it's actually going backwards. Surely if you can speed it up there's a reverse method of slowing it down it's just how do you get before the time you started.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

If time travel IS possible, you will not be able to travel into the future because it hasn't happened yet..

Everyones always travelling into the future. To travel a long distance into the future, you would effecttively just be making your existence void for that amount of time.

 

[Dark Phantom]

I think Time-travel is possible, but it's all pre-destined. Similar to the Novikov self-consistency principle.

I think that time travellers have existed throughout history and they have been in part in causing major events in history. Not by accident, but because that was how history was supposed to be written. They were ordered by a divine order to keep history in check the way we see it now. Everything that has happened in history has probably been caused by a time traveller. It's a time loop logic.

I've struggled with this concept for a long time.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I agree with Cycs, nothing is impossible. Plus if someone say in the year 2800 was capable of time travel, I would hope that by that time if the human race is still around that we are intelligent enough to realise the consequences of our actions.

Then again I am speaking of the human race.

 

[The Shape]

I think Time-travel is possible, but it's all pre-destined. Similar to the Novikov self-consistency principle.

I think that time travellers have existed throughout history and they have been in part in causing major events in history. Not by accident, but because that was how history was supposed to be written. They were ordered by a divine order to keep history in check the way we see it now. Everything that has happened in history has probably been caused by a time traveller. It's a time loop logic.

I've struggled with this concept for a long time.

Yeah, that's a really interesting concept. Plus, it would make for a great movie. A divine order sends people into the past to create certain events like wars and such that are necessary to shape the world as we know it. I'd see that.

 

[Dark Phantom]

Yeah, that's a really interesting concept. Plus, it would make for a great movie. A divine order sends people into the past to create certain events like wars and such that are necessary to shape the world as we know it. I'd see that.

Good, cause I'm making it into a movie


Tempus: The Time Traveller

One man's quest to find the answer..."why?"

 

[ang_hulk]

theres some documentation that with use of magnetic fields its possible and has happend during testing.Dunno if thats true or not but i think its possible.

 

[Kritish]

It's a good thing I don't have one, I would end up stealing diamonds and gold from the past.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

theres some documentation that with use of magnetic fields its possible and has happend during testing.Dunno if thats true or not but i think its possible.

Do you mean the movie Primer: What if it Really Works?

 

[Darren Daring]

If time travel IS possible, you will not be able to travel into the future because it hasn't happened yet. And travel into the past would be possible but limited, if u were using a time machine I dont think you would be able to travel back to a point before the time machine was created. So what would be the use?

That just comes from my understanding of science which is pretty limited.

You mean your understanding of Scott Bakula's career, which also seems rather limited?

 

[britrogue]

Not according to Britney Spears.....