Isn't it safe to assume that TIME TRAVEL will NEVER be possible?

[Spider-Bite]

Vielleicht ist der Grund, den wir von Leuten von der Zukunft nicht besucht worden sind, jene Menschheit vernichtet sich selbst, bevor wir die Fähigkeit entwickeln, Leute hinter rechtzeitig zu schicken. Oder vielleicht sind wir besucht worden, aber sie bleiben in Geheimnis. Vielleicht machen diese Burschen ein Leben des Voraussagens die Zukunft oder etwas.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Are you saying our future counterparts are mini-osama's from the future???

 

[LostSon88]

Are you saying our future counterparts are mini-osama's from the future???

WAIT!!! WHAT?! I'm referring to the suggestion that UFOs/Aliens are a future step of evolution, etc. etc.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Osama is an alien from the future?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJB_RL9w0s

I'm confused. So Osama owns a sportsbar and is an alien from the future.

 

[Drakon]

Vielleicht ist der Grund, den wir von Leuten von der Zukunft nicht besucht worden sind, jene Menschheit vernichtet sich selbst, bevor wir die Fähigkeit entwickeln, Leute hinter rechtzeitig zu schicken. Oder vielleicht sind wir besucht worden, aber sie bleiben in Geheimnis. Vielleicht machen diese Burschen ein Leben des Voraussagens die Zukunft oder etwas.

Given the current state of the world, you're probably not that far off.

 

[LostSon88]

No what i'm trying to get to....I mean....I'm saying....



forget it.

 

[Advanced Dark]

LOL see link above. I'm very confused. LOL

 

[Drakon]

No. Our future counterparts own their very own Mini-Osama, which they keep in jars, like lab specimen.

 

[Hades]

I never really undeststood why so many people see time as a linear thing.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Wait a second. So Osama is a alien from a future sportsbar that works behind the counter selling UFO parts? I'm very confused.

 

[LostSon88]

Okay...now I get it.

I loved this show!!!!! t:

 

[Advanced Dark]

I was just messin w/ya. LOL

 

[Ronny Shade]

If one believes that at some point in mans history, this great scientific achievement will be possible, isn't it safe to assume that someone should already know about it-in our time?

Think about it, someone from say the year 2800, would have undoutable already been (Or may still be here) and have inter-reacted with someone with the government, so someone from our time should already know time travel will be possible in the future, right?

But here's my thing, IF TIME TRAVEL is one day conceivable, why then did, say '911' still take place? I picked that day because it will be forever mark as a historic day in US history, so someone from the future should know of it. It seems to me that TIME TRAVEL may NEVER be possible due to all the horrific events that have happened over the last few centuries, which could have been easily been prevented by someone coming back in time with the preconcieved knowledge of when, where and how these events take place......

...don't you agree?
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Maybe there will be rescrictions on time travel?

Maybe altering an event like '911' will seriously jepodize other future events if prevented?

Maybe someone DID try and prevent some great, historical atrocity, and succeeded in a way. What we deem as horrific, they deemed as an OK outcome-as, ORIGINALLY, the event turned out alot worse?

Your thoughts....

If you go back in time to stop an event, that event will not have happened, which will therefore mean you never would have gone back in time to stop it. Standard time paradox.

 

[LostSon88]

^ Wow...good point. Never thought of it like that.

 

[the_joker]

All this talk about paradoxes makes my brain hurt.

 

[Drakon]

Curious--did anyone read any of the links that I posted a page or so ago?

 

[Ronny Shade]

I didn't. Quoted the first post and jumped right to the end. sorry. do that sometimes. I know it's terribly irresponsible of me.

 

[Lord Valumart]

Curious--did anyone read any of the links that I posted a page or so ago?

you posted links?

i was reading about time travel but then the alien bartender stuff took over and got more interesting...

 

[Advanced Dark]

If you go back in time to stop an event, that event will not have happened, which will therefore mean you never would have gone back in time to stop it. Standard time paradox.

Not really. Since you stopped the event there's no need to go back into the past and a new timeline begins and you would not be able to go back to the future that had existed before. There is no paradox.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Not really. Since you stopped the event there's no need to go back into the past and a new timeline begins and you would not be able to go back to the future that had existed before. There is no paradox.

Then there would never have been a future for you to come back from. Paradox.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Not really. Since you stopped the event there's no need to go back into the past and a new timeline begins and you would not be able to go back to the future that had existed before. There is no paradox.

it is a paradox.

 

[Drakon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather_paradox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontological_paradox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporal_paradox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_causation

For those who would like some light reading on the subject. Taken from my own bookmarks folder.

For those who are interested and missed the post.

 

[Spider-Nerd]

Then there would never have been a future for you to come back from. Paradox.

unless time works on the multiple linear reality principles, in which the future exists, just separate from the traveller, so the traveller returns to an alternate future, one in which the event in question never happened. No?

 

[Ronny Shade]

Possible. In which case the event would have occurred in the original timeline, which would remain unchanged. IF you could go back to the future, and you went there, the event still would have happened. Not going to the future in the new Timeline, it's impossible to say what would be different. Possibly everything, depending on how far in the future.

 

[kainedamo]

If one believes that at some point in mans history, this great scientific achievement will be possible, isn't it safe to assume that someone should already know about it-in our time?

Think about it, someone from say the year 2800, would have undoutable already been (Or may still be here) and have inter-reacted with someone with the government, so someone from our time should already know time travel will be possible in the future, right?

But here's my thing, IF TIME TRAVEL is one day conceivable, why then did, say '911' still take place? I picked that day because it will be forever mark as a historic day in US history, so someone from the future should know of it. It seems to me that TIME TRAVEL may NEVER be possible due to all the horrific events that have happened over the last few centuries, which could have been easily been prevented by someone coming back in time with the preconcieved knowledge of when, where and how these events take place......

...don't you agree?
---------------------------

Maybe there will be rescrictions on time travel?

Maybe altering an event like '911' will seriously jepodize other future events if prevented?

Maybe someone DID try and prevent some great, historical atrocity, and succeeded in a way. What we deem as horrific, they deemed as an OK outcome-as, ORIGINALLY, the event turned out alot worse?

Your thoughts....

I think your point is terrible. Just because we have not encountered any time travellers does not mean time travel is impossible.

Yeah, I'm willing to bet there would be restrictions. Or maybe they don't consider our time period that interesting. Or maybe they observe in secracy.