Jack the Ripper

Ultimate Movie-Man said:
is it possible that Jack the Ripper was a woman taking revenge on prostitutes maybe?

Not even for a second.

By all means, write, edit and promote your "script". :o
It'll just leave more room for my "Day of the ******ed Cyber-Sex Cheetah People" script to come into the forefront.

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Motown Marvel said:
no they didnt. that patricia cornwell book that came out a few years ago claiming that walter sickert was jack the ripper is such bull****

That's not what I'm talking about...:huh:

London Metropolitan Police found out this year who Jack The Ripper was. Well, not totally confirmed but found new evidence that linked to only one man. A Polish barber named AAaron Kosminski.

Just telling you what I heard on the news.
 
Kosminski could very well be the killer.

In brief, many aspects of Aaron Kosminski's background and psychoses seem to fit the profile of a sexual murderer, and of Jack the Ripper specifically. In 1988, the hundredth anniversary of the crimes, John Douglas and Roy Hazelwood presented the first criminal profile of Jack the Ripper on the television documentary "The Secret Identity of Jack the Ripper". They said that the Ripper was probably: a mentally disturbed white male from a lower social class; in his mid to late 20s; raised by a dominant female figure who consorted with different men (Golda was married at least twice); employed in a menial job and had poor personal hygiene and appeared disheveled; had no surgical expertise; lived in the locale of the murders; and did not commit suicide after the murders stopped. This all fits Aaron closely. Other aspects of the FBI profile of Jack the Ripper cannot be confirmed based on the facts known about Aaron Kosminski - for example that the Ripper was a a quiet loner who hated and feared women, who was abused as a child, possibly sexually, who drank in pubs prior to the murders, and who set fires and abused animals as a child. But there is nothing in the FBI profile of Jack the Ripper that contradicts Aaron's known profile, or that rules him out as a suspect.

Finally, we must not forget that "Kosminski" was identified by a witness. According to Sir Robert Anderson, the suspect was "unhesitantly" identified by "the only person who ever had a good view of the murderer." Interestingly, he also notes that the suspect "knew he was identified". The identity of this witness is still a subject of much heated debate amongst Ripperologists. It is clear that the witness was a "fellow Jew", as this is the reason, according to both Anderson and Swanson, that he refused to give evidence in court. In my opinion, the witness was probably Joseph Lawende, the Jewish commercial traveler who witnessed a man and a women talking at the entrance to Church Passage in Duke Street just prior to the murder of Catherine Eddowes. The other most likely candidate is Israel Schwartz, who witnessed a man attacking Liz Stride in Berner Street, just before she was murdered some 10 feet away in Dutfield's Yard. The only other possible Jewish witness is Joseph Levy, who was with Lawende and also witnessed the same couple standing at Church Passage; but Levy claimed to have not got a good look at the man, and said "I passed on, taking no further notice of them". In the final analysis, the identity of the witness is perhaps not relevant for the purpose of this article. The simple fact is that the suspect “Kosminski” was identified by someone described as "the only person who ever had a good view of the murderer."

At this point, it is impossible to come to conclusions about many of the theories I have put forward in this article. It is possible that further research will uncover facts about Aaron Kosminski's past that support his candidacy as a suspect in the case. Probably the most profitable line of research at this point would be trying to locate specific documentation related to Aaron's childhood: what happened to his father, information about his mother and other members of the family, and where specifically the Kosminskis were living in Russia. For example, if it was discovered that Aaron's father was killed during the pogroms, or that members of the Kosminski family were attacked... any concrete information like this would be a major breakthrough, and would go a long way to supporting the theory that Aaron Kosminski is indeed the suspect most likely to have been Jack the Ripper.
 
Wilhelm-Scream said:
Not even for a second.

By all means, write, edit and promote your "script". :o
It'll just leave more room for my "Day of the ******ed Cyber-Sex Cheetah People" script to come into the forefront.

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read the first page you idiot! I've already said it was a bad idea and I am not moving forward with it! How many times do I have to repeat myself in this thread for stupid people like you?!

And Ive always loved your "helpful" criticism. It's always made me to strive better at what I do, because in the end I realize your stupidness proves you need something better to do than to entertain yourself by putting others down to make yourself feel like a man, and that I am a better person than you'll ever be. It's not the way the world works and it's not the way I work. Contsructive criticism would be good, not "yeah great idea, along with my crappy idea". And by the way, "by all means, continue with your script"?
Get a life and live it instead of wasting your time *****ing about how much you don't like people and how much your life sucks and go do something worth doing...like maybe jumping off a building into moving traffic?

As previously said, the idea has been proven to be a stupid one and as I said before, not worth doing. People told me that politely and constructively, offering other ideas for replacement of the woman as a killer. Maybe read the posts before you post something insulting, hmm?

Thank you, come again.
 
Glad you decided to let the Jill the Ripper idea go. Incase you have other ideas, here's my list of subjects that are overused and cliche.

1. Jack the Ripper (definately #1)
2. Bigfoot
3. Zombies
4. Vampires.
5. The Lock Ness Monster
6. Werewolves
7. Space opera

Are there any more that I may have missed?
 
Probably...HA!

Well, I'm not writing my piece yet, just letting ideas bubble in the pot I call my brain, and see what comes up. I think if you do something cliche and put a spin on it, however, it's entertaining and at least worth watching, which is why I like the group as Jack.
 
Killgore said:
Glad you decided to let the Jill the Ripper idea go. Incase you have other ideas, here's my list of subjects that are overused and cliche.

1. Jack the Ripper (definately #1)
2. Bigfoot
3. Zombies
4. Vampires.
5. The Lock Ness Monster
6. Werewolves
7. Space opera

Are there any more that I may have missed?

I'll go with you there on the Vampires and Jack but Zombies pwn joo.:o
 
Ultimate Movie-Man said:
Probably...HA!

Well, I'm not writing my piece yet, just letting ideas bubble in the pot I call my brain, and see what comes up. I think if you do something cliche and put a spin on it, however, it's entertaining and at least worth watching, which is why I like the group as Jack.
Instead of Jack the Ripper (yawn) why not H. H. Holmes? You have the bizarre, labyrinth castle, gory autopsies, possible hundreds killed and a big bushy handle bar mustache.
 
WorthyStevens4 said:

while im no expert on kosminski, who has been a long time suspect, there are a few problems with him:

1. there are discrepincies(sp?) between the description the witness gave of the man he saw and kosminski himself.

2. as it turned out, the police might have had the wrong kosminski.

3. while aaron was certifiably insane, he never displayed any violent tendancies.

5. london had a population of 40 million in 1888...saying someone fits the profile of JTR hardly puts the knife in his hand.

4. in my personal opinion, jack the ripper HAD to of had knowledge of anatomy and surgery. he took from his victims very specific, hard to attain organs, in the shadow of night with little to no light, in what had to of been a matter of minutes. i, along with many others, find it very hard to believe anyone without a medical background could do this.

5. the suspect in question was seen with catherine eddows. this was on the night of the "double event", when both eddows and liz stride were killed within an alarmingly short period of time between eachother. eddows was found with minimal mutilation done to her in comparison to the other victims. this means one of two things: A. jack the ripper was rushed off before "finishing" eddows due to the witness that saw and called out to him...Jack would have then QUICKLY moved on, found liz stride and went to work on her. or B. eddows was killed by someone else, and the man that the witness saw wasnt jack the ripper.

either way, theres still nothing close to definitive or even damning evidence against aaron kosminski.
 
It could have also been a butcher, a butcher would most certainly have the tools and would know his way around organs.
 
Matt said:
The midwife theory holds no water in grounds of psychological evidence indicating male, witness accounts, etc.

I personally do believe there was at least one copy cat however.
I'm not suggesting that it was a midwife, I am merely saying that it is possible for a woman to have the knowledge
 
Dew k. Mosi said:
I'm not suggesting that it was a midwife, I am merely saying that it is possible for a woman to have the knowledge

Sure a woman could do it but almost all sireal killers are men.
 
Killgore said:
Instead of Jack the Ripper (yawn) why not H. H. Holmes? You have the bizarre, labyrinth castle, gory autopsies, possible hundreds killed and a big bushy handle bar mustache.
And don't forget the World's Fair and the White City. Read the "Devil in the White City" for a really cool book on Holmes.
 
Funnily enough, at the moment, in a part of England, 3 (possibly 4) prostitutes have been murdered. They are not certain whether these are related but if they are not then this is a freak occurence.

The police have told women to remain in their homes, as the murderer is still loose.

It's like Jack the Ripper all over again.
 
I'm not in Ipswich...but I'm in Essex/London which isn't TOO far away. :/
 
Nothing interesting happens in Plymouth. I think that makes me lucky. All we have to worry about is the dockyard blowing up.

My advice, stay away form Ipswich. With a name like that, it was only a matter of time before someone in that place went nuts.
 
the craziest thing about that news article is that it says a fifth missing prostitute is named annette nicholls....the first ripper victim is mary ann nichols.
 
Motown Marvel said:
the craziest thing about that news article is that it says a fifth missing prostitute is named annette nicholls....the first ripper victim is mary ann nichols.

I used to work in a Salvation Army store with an ex-hooker called Annette Nicholls. I'm wondering if it was the same woman.
 

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